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Unread 27 Apr 2004, 19:26   #1
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[Football]No more Draws?

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Fifa president Sepp Blatter says he is in favour of finding a way to avoid drawn matches.
Those BBC FA-cup ads don't seem quite so funny...
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Unread 27 Apr 2004, 19:28   #2
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Yeah, I saw that.

Pretty ****ing stupid, like most of Blatter's things, but it'll never get implemented.
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Unread 27 Apr 2004, 19:28   #3
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

One of either Blatter or Platini never fail to piss me off once every month.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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"When you play cards or other games, there's always a winner and a loser,"
Yeah, but this is football, not cards or 'other games'

nonce heh.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

how can you decide a clear winner from 10 kicks of the ball if you can't from 90 minutes of play? silly
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Its an absolute disgrace we have such a ****ing clown running our game.

Many people see penalties as a problem, what he should be concentrating on is how to sort them, rather than adding more penalties into games.

American penalties. Yes please.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Blatter should stick to comments on Women's football.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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Yeah, but this is football, not cards or 'other games'

nonce heh.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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American penalties. Yes please.
No way

Regardless of whether penalties are a good decider, they are far more nerve-wrecking than that silly American thing. There is nothing quite like the tension running through the stadium and every inch of your body when in the World Cup semi-finals after a draw, your team goes to the penalty stage. One player. One keeper. One goal. One shot. Eleven metres between them. You can basically cut the atmosphere with a knife.

Unless you're Dutch, in which case you know you're ****ed to start with.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

What are American penalties?!
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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No way

Regardless of whether penalties are a good decider, they are far more nerve-wrecking than that silly American thing. There is nothing quite like the tension running through the stadium and every inch of your body when in the World Cup semi-finals after a draw, your team goes to the penalty stage. One player. One keeper. One goal. One shot. Eleven metres between them. You can basically cut the atmosphere with a knife.

Unless you're Dutch, in which case you know you're ****ed to start with.
lol

But seriously, what's American penalties?
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

American penalties, same rules as regards to five penalty takers each before sudden death if required.

Shooter starts on the half way line. Ref blows his whistle. Shooter has (10? 12?) seconds to score - any way he wants, long shot, rounding the keeper, lobbing, whatever. The keeper can come off his line as far as he wants. No rebounds. (Certainly not rebounds off the keeper, im not sure about the posts and crossbar).

Much better, much more exciting, just as tense, fairer, more room for flair.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

sounds shit tbh
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

its you english that do the majority of moaning about penalties as they are Whats wrong with them in comparison to normal penalties, whats a better tiebreak
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

you and your crazy scottish ideas.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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No way

Regardless of whether penalties are a good decider, they are far more nerve-wrecking than that silly American thing. There is nothing quite like the tension running through the stadium and every inch of your body when in the World Cup semi-finals after a draw, your team goes to the penalty stage. One player. One keeper. One goal. One shot. Eleven metres between them. You can basically cut the atmosphere with a knife.

Unless you're Dutch, in which case you know you're ****ed to start with.
Agreed, I love penalties the way they are even if it is slightly unfair on the losing team.
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Agreed, I love penalties the way they are even if it is slightly unfair on the losing team.
Anyone putting Seedorf on the spot deserves to lose.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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American penalties, same rules as regards to five penalty takers each before sudden death if required.

Shooter starts on the half way line. Ref blows his whistle. Shooter has (10? 12?) seconds to score - any way he wants, long shot, rounding the keeper, lobbing, whatever. The keeper can come off his line as far as he wants. No rebounds. (Certainly not rebounds off the keeper, im not sure about the posts and crossbar).

Much better, much more exciting, just as tense, fairer, more room for flair.
Reminds me of ice hockey. Cool.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

i think it's time to get rid of that silly off-side rule, much more effective to get a more attractive game than this stupid suggestion.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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whats a better tiebreak
tie both managers to flat rocks, and stand them up so they are foot to foot, face to face. They then fight each other to the death using only bare knuckles.

I prefer current penalties to "American" penalties. The latter sounds crap, although I don't like anything which puts a specific time limit on scoring (like with a shot clock in basketball or something).
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i think it's time to get rid of that silly off-side rule, much more effective to get a more attractive game than this stupid suggestion.
Why? Because teams will defend their box rather than push up to the half way line?

Nice attractive system, that.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

American penalties are just like ice hockey penalties, indeed. They are certainly a fairer way of doing it.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Fairer in what way?
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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American penalties are just like ice hockey penalties, indeed. They are certainly a fairer way of doing it.
If by 'fairer' you mean 'the better team wins more often', which isn't necessarily what we want.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

how about we just leave the game a ****ing lone. De-poncefy it a tiny bit and leave it a ****ing lone.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

I dont see why Blatter wants to do it.

It just means teams will become specialities in penalties (hmm maybe we should enforce this just in England!!) and play for the draw!

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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Maybe we should have the players ride round on giant rats and hit the ball with polo sticks made out of foetuses.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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i think it's time to get rid of that silly off-side rule, much more effective to get a more attractive game than this stupid suggestion.

Man Utd can buy a tent and van nistelrooy can live in the opponent's penalty box
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Reminds me of ice hockey. Cool.
there's a difference tho. in hockey the goal tender has the advantage while this "american penalty" sounds like an easy job for the player.
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Fairer in what way?
Its not just one kick. If you miss one you are entirely to blame which just ups the pressure.

The best team would generally win more often; the best team generally wins more often anyway - and of course thats what you want. Holland should have been in the final of Euro 2000 for example instead of Italy, but penalties as they are said otherwise.


Anyway i dont want the end of draws. The odds on football matches would get shitter either win or lose because of the lack of a third option
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

The best team wouldn't win more often. The team with more consistent penalty takers would win more often.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Off-topic slightly : A friend of mine advocated awarding 0 points for a 0-0 draw (in league matches obviously) as he hated them so much.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

Some 0-0s are brilliant games.
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Re: [Football]No more Draws?

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I dont see why Blatter wants to do it.
1. to make it more "poplier" with the 'mericans.
2. he's never kicked a ball in his life
3. he's Swiss.

My solution : after 90 mins, go into unlimited golden goal extra time.
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