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Petition For New 'old' Colonies
PK!, you must make another colonies thread, if you need help then id be happy to pitch in
It must have the following however
1 : IB(admit it, its not the same without him)
2 : a max of 60 resource's a day
3 : units based on the colonies 2 thread
4 : GLUBS, gotta kill me some glubs
feel free to add your own
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19 Dec 2003, 17:50
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
glubs?
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19 Dec 2003, 18:34
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
S'pose I might give it another go if it appeared
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19 Dec 2003, 20:44
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
I would considering im not about to unexpectedly lose the internet for several weeks this time 
although we shouldn't use colonies 2 units, back to prime if you ask me. Except no giant spaceships. As fun as they were they became seriously unbalancing (lo klavo  )
Besides, i want some revenge on that no good australian who attacked while I weren't there.
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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19 Dec 2003, 21:00
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
Interested. We need the old gang. Me, Badger, Muha, Fluffie, Hewitt, Ginge and a few others are, I think, the only remaining major play0rz from the first one.
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19 Dec 2003, 21:36
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
Yeah, would be nice to have Storm, Da Lich, Terra, Cheese and the rest back.
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19 Dec 2003, 21:39
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
i'd prolly join too  .
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19 Dec 2003, 21:59
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
w00t
i never played prime unfortunatly, but i just NEED more colonies
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[16:45] <Ur_Quan> brains?? am i missing something??
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19 Dec 2003, 22:08
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
muha, the red dwarf in yer siggeh was on just now, lolz .
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19 Dec 2003, 22:23
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
well, it won't be Prime exactly, it will have some extra features. Me and PK have done some talking and I think i've isolated a few of the things that made thread #1 great.
The Europe and New World Effect
1. Our home colonies where mostly located close together (for the big players) so we didn't declare all out war every five minutes as it would ruin the thread, instead we had lots of political incidents and clashed in our colonies instead.
2. As a result of #1 we had interesting colonial adventures as it wasn't a case of invading another powerful player from halfway round the planet but instead fighting a power in the same position. If we look at colonies history the best ones by far have been when people where close together.
In light of this both of propose and fully support the idea of everyone starting in the North-West continent (two big islands with various smaller islands around them) and depopulating the main continent of player races, instead sparsley populating it with smaller Glub tribes to provide some release from muha/opposition to your power-hungry grabbing
Territory
Claims can be posted to certain areas rather than just taking the giant regions in the last attempt, or the non-existant system of Prime. If you can reasonably exert your control over that area it will be recognised as yours by PK and 'officially' allocated to you. The main idea of this to have people get conflicting claims and provide a reason for conflict.
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19 Dec 2003, 22:25
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
Surely the more offensively-minded will devise that placing the Colonies closer together makes rush conquest of the homelands a lot easier?
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Was Slave to Prodigality,
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19 Dec 2003, 22:26
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
just out of curiosity, what kind of tech level are we talking about here?
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19 Dec 2003, 22:30
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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Surely the more offensively-minded will devise that placing the Colonies closer together makes rush conquest of the homelands a lot easier?
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19 Dec 2003, 22:32
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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just out of curiosity, what kind of tech level are we talking about here?
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http://www.happyroidhotel.org/UnitTech.htm
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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isnt red dwarf just LOVELY
/me twiddles thumbs and waits anxiously for it to start
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19 Dec 2003, 22:50
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
colonies sucks! booo! down with colonies!
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19 Dec 2003, 22:54
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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colonies sucks! booo! down with colonies!
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
you filthy antless!
just wait till i get my heavy frigates and corvettes back online you to-be friend antless scum damn you die!
blablabla
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19 Dec 2003, 23:09
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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you filthy antless!
just wait till i get my heavy frigates and corvettes back online you to-be friend antless scum damn you die!
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
FILTHY ANTLESS!!!
/me plots the death of fluffie and his terran weakling allies
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19 Dec 2003, 23:15
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
sure muha
like you plan anything
everyone knows you weak buglings all have to follow whatever badger's mind spawns, you're too idiotic to do anything yourself
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19 Dec 2003, 23:18
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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19 Dec 2003, 23:30
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
i belive it was MY own idea to kill everyone with volanoes on penta, and admit it, IB's a strategic genius
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
i'll just be trillian and get all the nifty researches first, the squash you all with supreme tech !
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19 Dec 2003, 23:35
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
reply to the damn idea's or i'll assume you want them implented you no good peasants.
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
the ideas are good, but personally i like to start in a secluded area by myself, like an island or something, i like to know i can build up without interference for a while
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19 Dec 2003, 23:41
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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the ideas are good, but personally i like to start in a secluded area by myself, like an island or something, i like to know i can build up without interference for a while
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
I'll start on a different planet in the Alsar system, build a death-star or derivative, and blow you all up in one fell swoop (Muahahaha)
All i need to do is complete the c0onstruction, build several fake exhaust vents and make the genuine one all twisty-turny, then I'll be invincibubble!
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I'll start on a different planet in the Alsar system, build a death-star or derivative, and blow you all up in one fell swoop (Muahahaha)
All i need to do is complete the c0onstruction, build several fake exhaust vents and make the genuine one all twisty-turny, then I'll be invincibubble!
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things bigger than fighters are teh banned mr wraith, NEW PLAN!
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
A sun crusher?
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20 Dec 2003, 00:38
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
But surely it has a star.... OK, so it'd wipe my colony out too, but I'd survive! (RUN AWAY!!!)
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20 Dec 2003, 00:43
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But surely it has a star.... OK, so it'd wipe my colony out too, but I'd survive! (RUN AWAY!!!)
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I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
depends how big the fighter is doesn't it?
Anyway. I WANNA PLAY!
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
Aye, tis a fighter, with a wep that makes stars go supernova
BOOOOOOOOM!!! No more colonies... d'oh!
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
but then where would I express my fascist megalomanical side? 
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
someones been reading too much starwars :-/
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
You can never read too much Star Wars!
Corran Horn rocks
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better watch out tho
admiral daala might steal the sun crusher back
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
Meh, I'd just Force Push her into the Maw...
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
IB a strategic genius? damn no, he just has some lucky strokes at times
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
IB, what's our motive for establishing far-flung bases on other continents and stretching out our forces in such a vunerable manner?
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That damn'd ill-natur'd baneful Vice,
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
Ok, signups now officially open. We're going to use IB's idea. Rules are on the website:
www.happyroidhotel.org/colonies.htm
So, pick a location on the Secondus map.
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
*Claims the bigger island north of the small cluster of islands, east of the two big islands in the northwest*
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
The famous and great General No Dachi of the Terrans will be and making base on the region with the Terran civilian populance on the southern coast of the southernmost starting island, the one with the bit of desert at its southern tip and the bit of mountain in the north.
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Was Slave to Prodigality,
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20 Dec 2003, 12:47
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, Mr. Fluffie
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
next to dachi, to his right, eh
commander, fluffie eh
eh!
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20 Dec 2003, 13:19
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: iridia.irc
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
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...and admit it, IB's a strategic genius
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I am a far superior strategic genius when certain nameless people, who just happen to be the dm, aren't telling IB my SEKRIT plans
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Originally Posted by Planetkiller II
...So, pick a location on the Secondus map.
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Reserve me those 2 ikkle islands on their own, just east of the cluster of islands. Just in case
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20 Dec 2003, 14:24
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Baby Eating Capitalist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 215
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
I'll be taking a colony in south-east of the southern continent, in the region with lots of mountains. (i think some things need naming btw).
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20 Dec 2003, 14:50
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,257
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Re: Petition For New 'old' Colonies
i'll the most north-west island, the north-west piece of it with the trillian populous, with a piece of mountain, a piece of graslands and a piece of forest, my colony will be on the mountain to give me the big defensive advantage !
ha, research coordinator flapjack will rule all your researches !
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