What is the strongest alliance?

[Divine Kane]

I'm planning to make a website about the history of all the PA alliances from Legion to Virus and any of the alliances that were ever created i would like to know what people can tell me about the history of the alliances they are in and any other interesting facts.

[Elder]

you can read the summary of our history in our recruitment tread.. The best way for you to do this though would be for you to approach hc of the different alliances on irc as most alliances probably wont give you a serious answer here.. AD has somewhat declined lately.

[Seth Mace]

You can find HRs history and biased PA pov over the rounds here, i cant wait to write up the Round12 one

[The_Fish]

I'd be quite ashamed of it if I were you.

[Hicks]

Just read it and LOLed about Earthwalker, there's a name I hadn't heard in ages, wasn't he some kind of top secret government agent or something equally stupid Seth ? Wonder where he is now ? he was never as bad as everyone made out, in fact I thought he was an alright guy.

I remember this huge drama kicking off after he took Bekky's ops of fher in #wptfc, oh God the Internet was so newbie back then

[Jonas]

Hicks were a newbie? :/

anyway, find me in #Insomnia and ill give you the history of Insomnia

[Intruder]

There is already a page dedicated to PA History altho not updated to new PA. You can find it by clicking here. About rnds after 8 and improved info about previous rounds you can do what is suggested above, pming HCs and waiting that they see thats as a nice community initiative and help you (believe me, people can find easier to idle in community channels and include community initiative signs than actually do something for help).

[Barrow|Pony]

lol fish, you never quit.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

I'd be quite ashamed of it if I were you.

and selling your ass to 1up wud go great on ND's wudnt it??

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by Mek

and selling your ass to 1up wud go great on ND's wudnt it??

Here's a penny. Buy a clue. Please.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

Here's a penny. Buy a clue. Please.

ya didnt answer the question

[Seth Mace]

Just ignore him Mek, he's turned into Zhukov2 now:/

Aye hicks, man that was so long ago now, i'm sure earthy still hangs about in WPTFC as admin or something.

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by Mek

ya didnt answer the question

I wasn't going to respond to your blatant trolling, but i will take the bait anyways.

There is no reason for ND to be hostile to 1up now. There would have been if we had a chance of winning the round, but LCH decided (with many friends) to throw the kitchen sink (complete with U-bend and dirty dishes) at ND.

Had things been different, we may have been hitting 1up with you. As it is, we are hitting LCH to stop them winning. Because its what they deserve.

[jerome]

Jesus christ, what people (hint: the morons) don`t "get" whilst posting is, when your trying to be witty or arguing something, atleast make sure your supporting something that MAKES SENSE.

Would you have joined LCH & peon block as ND when they had been receiving lots of incomings their way themselves from said block ? My "guess" would be no, as SOME people DO have testicular fortitude, enough of said fortitude to fight against numbers and also get some logic in political & military judgement (want me to dig up my posts earlier showing how alliance firepower coordination has not really been LCH & peonblock`s strongest point again? neither has their political side by how they handled this heh).

Now, do please understand, though people like myself do troll, but atleast we don`t troll just for the sake of it, we do realise what we post makes sense and isn`t actually retarded as we possess "logic" & "common" sense.

[Alki]

does this thread really have to turn into the other 20 threads exactly like it on here? :/ maybe if sum1 could help this guy and give him a list of alliances that existed between those rounds and who they can contact:>

[Kjeldoran]

well done 1up pr trolls and ND pr trolls, another thread you managed to go about ND and 1up .... It's getting boring really.

Friendly advice to ND, you made some tactical screwups aswell, just as lch and HR did. Don't act like you played the good style cause looking at the ranks, somehow you didn't.

rgds Kj

[Veil05]

Originally Posted by Mek

and selling your ass to 1up wud go great on ND's wudnt it??

Your so right!!...


Selling out to MISTU/LCH/VsN/VgN.. was sooo much better

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

well done 1up pr trolls and ND pr trolls, another thread you managed to go about ND and 1up .... It's getting boring really.

Friendly advice to ND, you made some tactical screwups aswell, just as lch and HR did. Don't act like you played the good style cause looking at the ranks, somehow you didn't.

rgds Kj

Our plan was a very good plan. LCH's idiocy stopped us having a chance to implement it. They gave the round to 1up/

[Wandows]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

Our plan was a very good plan. LCH's idiocy stopped us having a chance to implement it. They gave the round to 1up/

soo asuming ur great tactical plan then it must have been something along the line of "lets attack any alliance besides 1up and get on their nerves, expect them not to do anything back to us and simply walk away with a leet victory"?

you simply got roided back for roiding others.. whether it helped those others or not, thats not the question, you made a mistake by thinking you could simply pick up whatever remains where left from other alliances, they didn't like that and stopped you.. to bad, try again next round.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Wandows

soo asuming ur great tactical plan then it must have been something along the line of "lets attack any alliance besides 1up and get on their nerves, expect them not to do anything back to us and simply walk away with a leet victory"?

you simply got roided back for roiding others.. whether it helped those others or not, thats not the question, you made a mistake by thinking you could simply pick up whatever remains where left from other alliances, they didn't like that and stopped you.. to bad, try again next round.

Sounds like they must've got it from the Sun Szu book of LCH tactics then

[jerome]

Originally Posted by Mek

and selling your ass to 1up wud go great on ND's wudnt it??

Kjel: This post I have just quoted is the first post which flamed the returns after it, therefore I think you need to place the blame more fittingly on the people who feed the trolls huh?:)

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

Our plan was a very good plan. LCH's idiocy stopped us having a chance to implement it. They gave the round to 1up/

LCH gave 1up the round asmuch as ND did. Whatever excuse you'll give me m8, teaming with 1up is the worst thing you could do cause that was the moment you signed the conctract saying ND will under no circumstances win this round.

nway, it's not a blame, alot ifnot most alliances would have taken that choice and I'm sure you couldn't anticipate lch's actions.

To 1up, don't even TRY claiming I'm saying 1up received the round on a silver plate, if you read carefully that is NOT what I said.

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

LCH gave 1up the round asmuch as ND did. Whatever excuse you'll give me m8, teaming with 1up is the worst thing you could do cause that was the moment you signed the conctract saying ND will under no circumstances win this round.

nway, it's not a blame, alot ifnot most alliances would have taken that choice and I'm sure you couldn't anticipate lch's actions.

To 1up, don't even TRY claiming I'm saying 1up received the round on a silver plate, if you read carefully that is NOT what I said.

so youre saying that while nd got hit by lch + their "friends" (lets keep it at this cloudy description) they should have teamed up with them to take down 1up, the only alliance not hitting them and focussing on someone else? Kj this makes even for you very little sense and seeing fangs past tgt moves i can only say i had exspected more from you. :xmas:

By hitting ND, LCH signed both their demise and i cant find any reasons, personal hard feelings between hcs/members/officers aside why ND should help LCH to win the round on their own costs?

Your argumentation would only work if both ND and LCH never had attacked each other, in which case LCH would have prolly won as they were in the past already in the lead and got only digged down by ND and 1up. So what would have been in for ND to make a different decision in the midround plannings ? Answer me that question and at which point ND could have made it different without "choosing a side" and having a realistic hope for the #1 spot, considering they came from top5-6 and zoomed up the ranks.

[cypher]

Originally Posted by Wandows

soo asuming ur great tactical plan then it must have been something along the line of "lets attack any alliance besides 1up and get on their nerves, expect them not to do anything back to us and simply walk away with a leet victory"?

you simply got roided back for roiding others.. whether it helped those others or not, thats not the question, you made a mistake by thinking you could simply pick up whatever remains where left from other alliances, they didn't like that and stopped you.. to bad, try again next round.

4 NewDawn 105060 97 3.245.995 314.861.572
5 [VsN] 80330 95 2.752.339 261.472.216

seems like they did better then vision still tho? while you have been with their side all along?:/
now how is what they did worse then what you did ? atleast they had a proper rank and lch needed several allies as back up to take them down a bit..
can't say same about you lot

[MotoX]

Originally Posted by _ryzekiel_

Jesus christ, what people (hint: the morons) don`t "get" whilst posting is, when your trying to be witty or arguing something, atleast make sure your supporting something that MAKES SENSE.

Would you have joined LCH & peon block as ND when they had been receiving lots of incomings their way themselves from said block ? My "guess" would be no, as SOME people DO have testicular fortitude, enough of said fortitude to fight against numbers and also get some logic in political & military judgement (want me to dig up my posts earlier showing how alliance firepower coordination has not really been LCH & peonblock`s strongest point again? neither has their political side by how they handled this heh).

Now, do please understand, though people like myself do troll, but atleast we don`t troll just for the sake of it, we do realise what we post makes sense and isn`t actually retarded as we possess "logic" & "common" sense.

“we do realise what we post makes sense and isn`t actually retarded as we possess "logic" & "common" sense.”


Ladies and Gentlemen; here is a perfect post of a person who think he/she is a better human being then you all.. the rest of us!

Please take no notice of the above statement cos this person will sooner or later come to his/her senses and finally believe/realise that we live in a free world were we all can post what ever we like or believe in!


ryzekiel: sometimes you really scare me...

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Razorback

so youre saying that while nd got hit by lch + their "friends" (lets keep it at this cloudy description) they should have teamed up with them to take down 1up, the only alliance not hitting them and focussing on someone else? Kj this makes even for you very little sense and seeing fangs past tgt moves i can only say i had exspected more from you. :xmas:

By hitting ND, LCH signed both their demise and i cant find any reasons, personal hard feelings between hcs/members/officers aside why ND should help LCH to win the round on their own costs?

Your argumentation would only work if both ND and LCH never had attacked each other, in which case LCH would have prolly won as they were in the past already in the lead and got only digged down by ND and 1up. So what would have been in for ND to make a different decision in the midround plannings ? Answer me that question and at which point ND could have made it different without "choosing a side" and having a realistic hope for the #1 spot, considering they came from top5-6 and zoomed up the ranks.

cheap digs here we come ...

It's perfectly doable for ND and LCH to NOT attack eachother and work together against the bigger enemy instead of fighting between eachother for the ohh so important #2 spot.

Tbh you're kinda arrogant and claim to know everything, while you seriously aren't. So easy to drag in past stuff, you keep doing that and that well, cheap and rather pathetic. Fact is, by teaming up with 1up, they signed not to win the round FOR SURE.

Any other scenario could maybe give them 1% more chance in ending first, I dunno. But now they're the target of ALL alliances so even in your silly narrowminded view, you can't do much else then admit that this BY far is the best choice to make (as they now lost 3rd to HR).

Next time, keep the digs and past references (who are always the same with you and seriously boring tbh) behind.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by MotoX

“we do realise what we post makes sense and isn`t actually retarded as we possess "logic" & "common" sense.”


Ladies and Gentlemen; here is a perfect post of a person who think he/she is a better human being then you all.. the rest of us!

Please take no notice of the above statement cos this person will sooner or later come to his/her senses and finally believe/realise that we live in a free world were we all can post what ever we like or believe in!


ryzekiel: sometimes you really scare me...

jerome is a better person then you though

[MotoX]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

jerome is a better person then you though

Hua......

And when it comes from you it means absolutely nothing!

Sorry carry on folks…..

[Lei~]

i think motox isnt for real its a gimmick account of someone who just loves to troll other ppl with the most stupid inet retard comments and then laughes when other ppl take him seriously...

[MotoX]

Originally Posted by Lei~

i think motox isnt for real its a gimmick account of someone who just loves to troll other ppl with the most stupid inet retard comments and then laughes when other ppl take him seriously...

Cool

[jerome]

Originally Posted by MotoX

“we do realise what we post makes sense and isn`t actually retarded as we possess "logic" & "common" sense.”


Ladies and Gentlemen; here is a perfect post of a person who think he/she is a better human being then you all.. the rest of us!

Please take no notice of the above statement cos this person will sooner or later come to his/her senses and finally believe/realise that we live in a free world were we all can post what ever we like or believe in!


ryzekiel: sometimes you really scare me...

Anyone else get smacked in the face with irony of how he managed to read the whole post yet not comprehend what I was getting at?


MotoX: Though I`m flattered by your fear of me (sounds much nice in this wording huh? :p) & I do agree it is a free world & one can post what they believe in etc, but it doesn`t necessarily mean you have to be a general moron with unrealistically prepostorous posts.

[SilverSmoke]

guys

[jerome]

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[Linkie]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

Sounds like they must've got it from the Sun Szu book of LCH tactics then

They must have missed the chapter about elitism.

[MotoX]

Originally Posted by _ryzekiel_

Anyone else get smacked in the face with irony of how he managed to read the whole post yet not comprehend what I was getting at?


MotoX: Though I`m flattered by your fear of me (sounds much nice in this wording huh? ) & I do agree it is a free world & one can post what they believe in etc, but it doesn`t necessarily mean you have to be a general moron with unrealistically prepostorous posts.

Moron, retard...... don’t you guys learn anything in school these days?

Please feel free to come back when you learned to be civil around people.

Moderators: Step up and enforce the roles you so dearly created.

6.1 We expect you to act in a civilized and social manner. Attempts to insult, hurt or offend other users won’t be tolerated.

(I guess this role applies even in Forum)

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

It's perfectly doable for ND and LCH to NOT attack eachother and work together against the bigger enemy instead of fighting between eachother for the ohh so important #2 spot.

Its not doable if LCH keeps hitting ND. It would be in a perfect world but like explained in other threads already a dozend times ND did not have many choices when LCH got taken down from the top spot. Since then there have been exchanges of fire and since then it was obvious that there would be no take and go peace. So enlighten us about the easy and perfect way Kj....

Tbh you're kinda arrogant and claim to know everything, while you seriously aren't. So easy to drag in past stuff, you keep doing that and that well, cheap and rather pathetic. Fact is, by teaming up with 1up, they signed not to win the round FOR SURE.

I dont claim to know everything but they wouldnt have won the round "for sure" if they took down 1up while LCH was still #1 with 40 mil lead (and yes that was the point when ND had to decide).
After this moment everything went down the choosen paths.

Any other scenario could maybe give them 1% more chance in ending first, I dunno. But now they're the target of ALL alliances so even in your silly narrowminded view, you can't do much else then admit that this BY far is the best choice to make (as they now lost 3rd to HR).

Hey smarty, Hr would target them no matter what cause of the bad blood and LCH targetted them once ND got involved in their loss of #1 spot. So infact there is no 1% more chance either way, they could choose side with 1up and maybe hope the rest of the universe takes down 1up and they can sneak ahead (this is what fish described in another thread as their plan) or they could side with LCH (who were still ontop back then) and take out 1up, basically enlarging the lead of LCH and in the end standing along against LCH + buddies (which existed already).

While everyone seems to be taking potshots at ND for beeing forced in a corner where they could choose between bad and very bad everyone seems to forget that LCH arent even actively trying to take down 1up. They even claim here "its impossible to fight 67 good players with just 100" or "its easier to surf roids from an alliance less strong on the defensive side". Why would such an alliance deserve to win or even receive ones help ?
Speaking from ND's pov, LCH ruined their chance for the #1 spot, flamed them and sees them as cheap farms because they cant get through on 1up in the vain hope to outroid 1up, why would they now make peace and side with LCH against 1up ?

Next time, keep the digs and past references (who are always the same with you and seriously boring tbh) behind.

next time you try to make a point try to get some more informations, you seem to be abit out of the loop for someone who actually plays the game....

P.S. Lokken wrote a fitting analysis which goes along my statements in some other thread, maybe worth checking it KJ.

[The_Fish]

Focht just made the best post of the round.

True Story.

[JC]

This is an impressive thread derailment. The 1up, ND, LCH and whoever else posters should go wank over themselves in a thread thats meant for them.

Originally Posted by Divine Kane

I'm planning to make a website about the history of all the PA alliances from Legion to Virus and any of the alliances that were ever created i would like to know what people can tell me about the history of the alliances they are in and any other interesting facts.

Writing a site about all the alliances in PA is pretty much impossible, even more so if you werent around from r1 onwards. You have the problems of people remembering things differently when looking back on something that happened years ago, alliance bias/propaganda, and then just completely missing out alliances that you didnt realise existed.

Its not something i would think about undertaking but i wish you look if you are going to give it a real go. Seeing as i was AR mod for a time i know a fair bit about the smaller alliances from r4-8ish and so might be able to help you out there if you are interested.

[lokken]

Ignorance is strength by the looks of this thread

I endorse JC's post, above.