Weight Loss

[Tomkat]

Like how much sperm you ejaculate? I imagine that if it's a significant amount, that'd do wonders for weight loss.

Although you know that by the next day the little blighters would all be back.

[Nodrog]

You arent eating enough and you arent eating often enough. Split your daily food into 5 or 6 smaller meals and try to eat something every 3 hours or so. Aim for around 2000 calories a day (yes, you should be counting if you're serious about this). Eat more protein, and make sure you arent losing more than 2 pounds a week since any more than that is going to be mostly muscle rather than fat. Do some exercise, preferably proper weight lifting. Situps will do nothing for you.

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by pyirt

Cut out or down on the carbohydrates

No, this is nonsense. The low-carb idea is probably the most misunderstood thing in this history of everything (eating 'less carbs' is not going to induce ketosis - proper low-carb dieting requires more far effort than 99% of people who buy low-carb food will ever put into their eating plans).

[MrL_JaKiri]

[quote=Nodrog]

Originally Posted by pyirt

Cut out or down on the carbohydrates/QUOTE]
No, this is nonsense.

lol nod said it was nonsense when he got the code wrong

[Yahwe]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

(eating 'less carbs' is not going to induce ketosis - proper low-carb dieting requires more far effort than 99% of people who buy low-carb food will ever put into their eating plans).

errr...

the theory that Ketosis causes you to lose weight has been debunked as quakery.

[Linkie]

You should probably try to eat more than 3 times a day, preferably 5-6 times a day, no meals after 8 pm, this keeps your metabolism higher at all times (if the body has a intake of energy, it doesn't try to store fat). This naturally means all your meals should be a bit smaller.
You should also try to compose your meals a bit more so you have a nice balance of carbo/protein/fat. Your food should also be food that spreads the energy digestion in your body as slowly as possible (ie. sugar is bad cause it gives you an energy kick, and then leaves your body with a low energy value quickly).

Also do more walking, and try to go to the gym 2-3 times a week aswell, nothing burns fat like some proper fat burn excercise at the gym.

You can easily search around the internet for fitness forums where they'll explain how a good balanced diet should look like, and why it should look like that.

[Danae]

Originally Posted by CrashTester

seriously, does anyone know how many calories w@nking burns off?

43 according to FHM

[Ärketrollmannen]

Originally Posted by CrashTester

seriously, does anyone know how many calories w@nking burns off?

Dunno, but sex burns loads.

Lost 2 kgs when I met my girl.

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by Yahwe

errr...

the theory that Ketosis causes you to lose weight has been debunked as quakery.

No it hasn't, the evidence is still fairly inconclusive. Besides, there are additional benefits to low-carb eating (mainly leptin related) which are relatively widely accepted, although none of which really apply to someone who is 15 stone.

[midge5]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

Aim for around 2000 calories a day (yes, you should be counting if you're serious about this).

I tried to count how many calories I am eating recently but nearly all my food doesn't seem to include this in the nutritional information. Is there some other way of working this out so that you can actually keep a decent record?

[Nodrog]

Buying food that has it in the nutritional information would be your best bet... Pretty much all supermarket food has listings, so I'm not sure what it is you're buying that doesnt (unless it's "eating out" food, which you can safely assume is going to be full of crap even without having to read a label). There's a few (reliable) sites online that have macronutrient breakdowns for various foods, so you could give that a try. www.fitday.com might have a list, I'm not sure.

[Nodrog]

Oh yeah, and you might want to read that

[lokken]

Think i read somewhere today that 'fidgeting' could well be the difference between fatty and skinny.

Plus i walk everywhere so i couldn't get fat if i tried.

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by lokken

Think i read somewhere today that 'fidgeting' could well be the difference between fatty and skinny.

Plus i walk everywhere so i couldn't get fat if i tried.

Yeah I saw that in the Metro, it seemed like one of the most poorly conducted scientific studies ever, unless the newspaper reporting was even worse than usual.

According to the Metro, they got a group of thin people and a group of fat people then attached some device to them that monitored how much they moved. They found that thin people tended to move more than fat people during their normal daily routines (eg they spent longer standing and less time sitting etc). Theynthey put the fat people on a diet, and got the thin ones to put on weight. After a few months they reattached the measuring devices and found that the people who had previously been fat still moved less than the ones who had been previously thin. They then concluded that the fat people were fat because they were genetically inclined to move less than the thin people - some people are simply "born to be more active than others" (actual quote).

I'm not making this up. This is seriously how the study was carried out (according to the Metro anyway). Apparently the fact that it takes more than a few months to break the ingrained habits of a lifetime never seemed to cross anyone's mind.

[Yahwe]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

No it hasn't, the evidence is still fairly inconclusive. Besides, there are additional benefits to low-carb eating (mainly leptin related) which are relatively widely accepted, although none of which really apply to someone who is 15 stone.

the benefit of a low carb diet is appetite supression that comes from the excessive digestion of protein that comes with it.

there is no 'magical effect' that comes from a low carb diet.

unsurprisingly for those of us who can actually think, the fundamental laws of physics can not be changed.

atkins works as a form of appetite suppression, fewer calories in ...

the evidence is not inconclusive. its very clear. unsurprising. and scientificly valid.

anything else has the validity of creationism.

[demiGOD]

of course the low carb diet is probably the unhealthiest way to lose weight

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by Yahwe

the benefit of a low carb diet is appetite supression that comes from the excessive digestion of protein that comes with it.

there is no 'magical effect' that comes from a low carb diet.

unsurprisingly for those of us who can actually think, the fundamental laws of physics can not be changed.

The primary benefit of low-carb dieting is that it allows the incorporation of refeeding days, which helps to maintain high levels of leptin. This isnt particularly important for those who are overweight and trying to become 'normal sized', but it is very significant for people who have average levels of body fat and are wanting to become lean (generally sub-10% bf). As I said, low-carb diets are not suited for 99% of people and they are hideously misunderstood. However, the science behind several popular carb-controlled eating plans (NOT Atkins - I'm mainly referring to diets which involve carb-cycling such as CKD and TKD) is relatively sound.

The evidence relating specifically to ketosis causing an increased rate of fat loss is still inconclusive. If you think there's any definitive studies that refute those claims, I'd be interested in reading about them.

[Yahwe]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

The evidence relating specifically to ketosis causing an increased rate of fat loss is still inconclusive. If you think there's any definitive studies that refute those claims, I'd be interested in reading about them.

ketisis has been dismissed as a cause of fat loss, it is a symptom of a low carb lifestyle where the increased consumption of protein effects an appetite suppression.

this is the logic behind an atkins or low carb diet.

usurprisingly they lose weight the only way you can lose weight by reducing their calorific intake.

you're as bad a a creationist.

and no i have no intention of trying to disprove your belief.

[Nodrog]

The argument has nothing whatsoever with weightloss. Any eating plan involving taking in less than you burn will result in 'weight' being lost. The issue is what is being lost, namely the ratio of muscle to fat. The proponents of low-carb dieting generally claimed that someone who lost 5 pounds while in ketosis will have lost more fat, and less muscle, than someone who lost 5 pounds normally.

[Yahwe]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

The argument has nothing whatsoever with weightloss.The issue is what is being lost

then perhaps you should make a new thread about this off topic point.

[Nodrog]

When people talk about weight loss, it's quite obvious that they normally mean fat loss. Noone is going to post a thread on the internet asking how to best go about losing muscle and water.

[Yahwe]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

When people talk about weight loss, it's quite obvious that they normally mean fat loss. Noone is going to post a thread on the internet asking how to best go about losing muscle and water.

no no

please to post a thread about your research into this fascinating topic

don't let that Phd in googling you have go to waste.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Yahwe

no no

please to post a thread about your research into this fascinating topic

don't let that Phd in googling you have go to waste.

Whereas all your knowledge you possess innantely?

[Phang]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Whereas all your knowledge you possess innantely?

HE IS THE LAW.

[Super]

I'm going to ignore any post after the OP in this thread, because I'm a man on a mission. That or I don't have time to read the rest.

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

At the moment i weigh somewhere in the region of 15 - 19st (i'm not sure exactly, i'm too frieghtned to look) and am 5ft 11ish.
*skip usual food list*

I am 5ft 7ish, I weigh 9 and a half stone, and this is what I consume:

Essential:

• 1 glass of orange or pinapple juice
• 8 glasses of water
• 2 apples, 2 oranges, 1 banana

Breakfast/lunch (i usually combine the two)

• Bacon or chicken sandwich, white bread. If I'm very hungry, I'll make 2 bacon+egg sandwiches
• Packet of crisps - usually Hoola Hoops or Pombears
• 3 thin slices of turkey (i eat these with the crisps)
• Portions of carrots, cucumber, lettuce and maybe some tomatoes
• 2 pieces of toast
• Tin of tuna or sardines

I'll usually snack during the gap, with creme eggs or a honey+nut bar thing.

Dinner

• A choice of either chicken, 1 or 2 pork chops, mince or sausages
• Rice or pasta or potatoes (depending on what meat I'm having)
• Peas or mixed veg

I have been known to eat a 1.5kg chicken for dinner, with mash on the side. Only if I have a carton of pineapple juice open though.

Originally Posted by Demon Dave

currently i am doing 50 sit-ups a day and will be trying to work my way up to 100 (don't want to strain myself too much too early). So GD, recommend away

With situps, try to do 10 more every day. It should be pretty easy - have a bit of a rest if you need to but don't give up. After a while you'll be able to do 100 non-stop within a minute or two .

However, I think there must be some major difference between us physically, as if anything I eat more than you, but I do not gain weight. Maybe try walking or general exercising more. I like to do pressups every other day.