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Unread 9 Dec 2008, 15:00   #51
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Re: 5:3

sorry, not playing for some rounds, but from c200 Reese can´t defend her own alliance members...

so here comes my question:

how can an alliance HC!!!!!! make such a selfish and pretty stupid move?

VenoX?
back in the days i hced my own alliances (in some clones) i would have kicked a member for such a move, not even thinking what i would have done with another one from the hc team doing such a thing...
how can you accept such a move?

what has PA become to nowadays...

and Wishmaster - it doesn´t need a l33t alliance, it would just need an alliance that WANTS to fight a war with all consequences...( 3 fleet attacks, fleet catches, active scanning/jgping, attacks being jpged every tick and members recall if def early to resend etc. etc.)
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Unread 9 Dec 2008, 15:32   #52
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and Wishmaster - it doesn´t need a l33t alliance, it would just need an alliance that WANTS to fight a war with all consequences...( 3 fleet attacks, fleet catches, active scanning/jgping, attacks being jpged every tick and members recall if def early to resend etc. etc.)
no alliance seem willing / competent enough to do that these days.

sad thing, but true.

Basicly, denial have given up, and when I asked why they allowed it, they said: what else is there to do? and why not.
They dont seem to care much apparntly

and shes a girl so no one will dare to say anything!

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Unread 9 Dec 2008, 15:43   #53
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Unread 9 Dec 2008, 17:23   #54
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What we can conclude from this post are the following:

Denial are incompetant
Reese is selfish
Demontrix is useless + selfish
JungleMuffin in jealous
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Oh great and all knowing CBA, how we admire and appreciate your wonderful insights!
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I s'ppose Denial can use the excuse that they are playing for planet ranks now.. and Reese exiling gave her a better chance at finishing higher
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And that log is supposed to contribute to what?
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Making CBA look like an idiot?
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Wishmaster in all fairness ascendancy were a mile behind until two weeks of p targetting on denial by 3 alliances. If it wasn't for the blind stupidity of the other two (and good move btw), ascendancy would not have come anywhere near denial.
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dont bother with this guy JBG, clearly retarded
You should know, King of all retards... even if ur 5 ur acts wouldnt excuse you.

And i see this game is going to die after r30 So lets make the best out of next round
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Wishmaster in all fairness ascendancy were a mile behind until two weeks of p targetting on denial by 3 alliances. If it wasn't for the blind stupidity of the other two (and good move btw), ascendancy would not have come anywhere near denial.
We have always been an alliance that needs a bit of time to get rolling. I have no idea why this is so, but history shows it to be true. That said, I'm pretty sure Wishmaster is not speaking exclusively about this round when he talks about dominance. You don't have to look further than last round to see what Ascendancy are able to do, if enough people choose to participate actively.
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I actually thought there would be a competition this round, with denial. But the uselessness from them, and the other alliances shocked me yet again.
Ascendancy didnt want any competition, hence why they have used so much propaganda. If ascendancy wanted competition, they should have brought the fight up against denial without having to use several other allys to ptarget with em. Then again, there is always the next round, until this game dies of political boredom.
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Denial didnt want any competition, hence why they have used so much propaganda. If denial wanted competition, they should have brought the fight up against ascendancy without having to use several other allys to ptarget with em. Then again, there is always the next round, until this game dies of political boredom.
Both statements are true, neither is actually of any relevance. Rounds are too short to fight one on one wars.
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Ascendancy didnt want any competition, hence why they have used so much propaganda. If ascendancy wanted competition, they should have brought the fight up against denial without having to use several other allys to ptarget with em. Then again, there is always the next round, until this game dies of political boredom.
If Denial were a better alliance, they would have ensured that they didn't end up in a situation where they were being attacked by 4 alliances without receiving any help. Military strength is not all there is to it, playing that way, you lose many interesting aspects of the game. Let's face it, this game isn't wildly interesting in itself, it's all the people here, and the dynamics of the groups of people that makes it cool. By putting yourself on the political sideline, you lose out.

And, what's wrong about not wanting competition? Some people would say that it's a more clever way of winning a round, and after all, we did get our super-military-power-win last round. Some people are actually affected by playing a round like that, it's actually possible to get outright tired of it.

I don't think any coordinated effort was made to avoid war, or to make propaganda, but I might be wrong.
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If Denial were a better alliance, they would have ensured that they didn't end up in a situation where they were being attacked by 4 alliances without receiving any help. Military strength is not all there is to it, playing that way, you lose many interesting aspects of the game. Let's face it, this game isn't wildly interesting in itself, it's all the people here, and the dynamics of the groups of people that makes it cool. By putting yourself on the political sideline, you lose out.

And, what's wrong about not wanting competition? Some people would say that it's a more clever way of winning a round, and after all, we did get our super-military-power-win last round. Some people are actually affected by playing a round like that, it's actually possible to get outright tired of it.

I don't think any coordinated effort was made to avoid war, or to make propaganda, but I might be wrong.
I think ur missing the point here dude? Wishmaster was complaining about the competition, even tho we all know you girls didnt want any competition.

I'll give you this cactus to play with, incase u get stuck while thinking it through
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Re: 5:3

Or an alternative roundname:
Round 30: Lets just let Asc win again!

With current alliance HC's I doubt there'll be a round in the future that Asc doesn't win tbh, not even last rounds demonstration by Asc was enough to convince certain people that Asc needed to be hit hard, early and for a long long time this round to ensure they wouldn't roll to victory again.

Instead they decided to p-target the only real competition Asc had for 2-3 weeks and hand them the win again.

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The best alliance aint winning for sure
Well, they might be the best, i wont discuss that im affraid. But then again, they never get tested either. If ascendancy was the only ally ptargeting Denial, im pretty sure Denial would be hitting back on ascendancy with ptargeting.
But i cant be arsed to talk more about how thing could have ended up, if not all the hatred for one and love for another plays a factor would play in.
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If we win this round, we're the best. if not, then not. It's not complicated.
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god, where to begin.

First of all,asc got like 90% of the competent players in planetarion. -fact-
We win a round now where we really dont bother trying. This round is nothing compered to last, in regards to activity in asc.
The only one bothering is JBG, which once again...seems to be enough. 1 guy sorting everything, getting people on to send. Hes a machine Where he finds motivation is beyond me.

Those who know anythinig about pa, knows that value plays a bigger and bigger role in regards to score as the round progresses. Even Wolf can be top10 the first week if he xp hoes from the start. Winning PA is all about planet maintenance. Never loose fleet - win.
Asc seems to be the best alliance not suiciding, making stupid mistakes - ( back to the fact that we got the best players )

Saying that the best alliances wont win is just retarded. We didnt ride a fence to be #1. We took advantage of other alliances believing Denial were the bigger threat, or advantage of the fact that alot more seem to dislike Denial over Asc.
Basicly, most of us sat there laughign as the diff. alliances joined on Denial night after night, while we established our round win at pt500.

Whats the crap about us not wanting competition? We want competition. No one managed to give it. Its not like we are not gonna play the game to let others have a chance at #1 though. Because nestorn, whoever u are, pa is more than galraiding and being #1 at pt 200.
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whats this got to do with 5:3?
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yeh the thread should be renamed

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ok maybe pathetic was harsh.

just "the cowardice of reese"
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ok maybe pathetic was harsh.

just "the cowardice of reese"
u can use that as ur planet name next round!
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so did google tell you what cowardice means caj?
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I think ur missing the point here dude? Wishmaster was complaining about the competition, even tho we all know you girls didnt want any competition.
I didn't say we did not want competion, only that there was nothing wrong in not wanting it. Read my post again if you missed this. I'm not playing this round, and I'm not even remotely active on IRC, so I don't know what point of view the players in my alliance has on this.

On thing I am hardly able to miss, though, is that it's not up to Ascendancy to provide itself with competition. If there was no competition, it's surely not a failure on their part. Do you disagree with this statement?

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Well, they might be the best, i wont discuss that im affraid. But then again, they never get tested either. If ascendancy was the only ally ptargeting Denial, im pretty sure Denial would be hitting back on ascendancy with ptargeting.
But i cant be arsed to talk more about how thing could have ended up, if not all the hatred for one and love for another plays a factor would play in.
Why don't you test us then? I'm sure the military machine that is Denial would give Ascendancy some problems if they P targeted us. If P targeting sounds a bit extreme, why not hit our fat galaxies?

Seriously Nestorn if you actually think the only reason Denial didn't win was because the big bad Ascendancy bullies plotted the entire universe against them you are seriously deluded. As I've said to VenoX in the past, whilst people like eks and Reese may be decent 'HC' in his eyes, they are terrible examples to their members. The HC of an alliance should set the example of how they want every member of the alliance to be, an alliance full of eks/Reese types would fail in the first week.
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god, where to begin.

First of all,asc got like 90% of the competent players in planetarion. -fact-
And that's proberly the reason why 90 of the top 100 planets are asc huh?
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The reason PD/AD works so well is because so many people seem to have the wrong idea of whats going on, especially those from ND/CT/Denial, just seem to be absolutely clueless, i wonder what happens in their alliance member meetings heh
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Hello there mr. Sherlock! Unfortunately Ascendancy doesn't have 100 players!
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Hello there mr. Sherlock! Unfortunately Ascendancy doesn't have 100 players!
you got me their! but you catch my drift
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whats this got to do with 5:3?
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Why don't you test us then? I'm sure the military machine that is Denial would give Ascendancy some problems if they P targeted us. If P targeting sounds a bit extreme, why not hit our fat galaxies?
denial have proved time and time again they dont know how to p-target or fight a war
yeah they are good at roid racing but that's the full extent of their military machine
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And that's proberly the reason why 90 of the top 100 planets are asc huh?
Are you pointing out that the alliance with the best members also has the most planets in the top100? Do you have any more shocking revelations?



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Or an alternative roundname:
Round 30: Lets just let Asc win again!

With current alliance HC's I doubt there'll be a round in the future that Asc doesn't win tbh, not even last rounds demonstration by Asc was enough to convince certain people that Asc needed to be hit hard, early and for a long long time this round to ensure they wouldn't roll to victory again.

Instead they decided to p-target the only real competition Asc had for 2-3 weeks and hand them the win again.

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Let me just say, like nearly all other denial posters your numbers are way off, maybe let your HC post about that stuff instead since they are more likely to know. I have a very very hard time believing the incoming you recieved was as organised as the "onslaughter" asc had for 3-4 days by 4 alliances. We easily topped 300 fleets incoming on those days as an ally but we coped and kept fighting. Ptargeted for 2-3 weeks, get real

I forgot which of you denial dudes told me on AD going for the strongest alliance during heavy inc would be a bad mistake and even laughed at the suggestion, but it was still exactly what we did while having incs, we went after denial and put them in minus roids 2 days in a row, alone, while having 4 alliances on us. Draw your own conclusions :/
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yeh the thread should be renamed

"explaining the cowardice of the pathetic reese"
Why dont you go visit a friend for a day without inet caj? ^^
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Are you pointing out that the alliance with the best members also has the most planets in the top100? Do you have any more shocking revelations?



P.S. 23. I just counted.
What I was trying to point out, and maybe i did a bad job of it, was that wishmaster was exaggerating more then just a bit.
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Let me just say, like nearly all other denial posters your numbers are way off, maybe let your HC post about that stuff instead since they are more likely to know. I have a very very hard time believing the incoming you recieved was as organised as the "onslaughter" asc had for 3-4 days by 4 alliances. We easily topped 300 fleets incoming on those days as an ally but we coped and kept fighting. Ptargeted for 2-3 weeks, get real

I forgot which of you denial dudes told me on AD going for the strongest alliance during heavy inc would be a bad mistake and even laughed at the suggestion, but it was still exactly what we did while having incs, we went after denial and put them in minus roids 2 days in a row, alone, while having 4 alliances on us. Draw your own conclusions :/
Creds to you guys for doing so, altho this was at a stage where you had us beating with twice the value, cause you had stayed untouched. But i mean we could have used all our attack power to try and mess some up for you guys, and risk that our morale went away with our roids
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What I was trying to point out, and maybe i did a bad job of it, was that wishmaster was exaggerating more then just a bit.
you should hear him talk about his activity and/or ability to wake up in the mornings
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Why don't you test us then? I'm sure the military machine that is Denial would give Ascendancy some problems if they P targeted us. If P targeting sounds a bit extreme, why not hit our fat galaxies?

Seriously Nestorn if you actually think the only reason Denial didn't win was because the big bad Ascendancy bullies plotted the entire universe against them you are seriously deluded. As I've said to VenoX in the past, whilst people like eks and Reese may be decent 'HC' in his eyes, they are terrible examples to their members. The HC of an alliance should set the example of how they want every member of the alliance to be, an alliance full of eks/Reese types would fail in the first week.
We both know we wouldnt get to fight Denial vs Ascendancy, and yes i do acknowledge the fact that ascendancy have allot of skilled players. I do not deny that at all. On a sidenote you also have completly rejects like CBA, but i guess that is to even things out.

But it would be really fun to fight each other, i belive Denial could stand a chance, i wont say how high percentage but i belive we could have a chance of beating you guys. Altho it would mean that all of our members were at they top of theyre game (i havent been that at all this round), not taking vacations or crashing cause they thought someone told em to land.

In the end, the thing that saddens me is that this game most likly will die out. Cause ascendancy is a good alliance, and they arent beeing hit when its vital (t200 and out until low roid count) thus growing strong and superior. Nobody is unbeatable in pa, its just that certain alliances are harder to beat than other.
Since this game evolves around politics and relations, some have harder/easier time than others. That how it is and always will be.
Yes, if ND were smart they had contacted Denial HC and teamed up against asc, even tho asc were only showing 30 players and not that scarey amount of roids (1:10 was a clear signal even at t150 of how asc was going). By doing so ND/Denial would eliminate ascendancy for quite a while, and Denial/ND could concentrate on each other. In the end, all we will find in this post and most of the other posts are asc and denial ppl fighting each other, with a few comments from CT/ND ppl. And i really should be paying attention to other stuff than that. So....

Gz on victory ascendancy.

And best of luck in r30, you never know, maybe some of the alliance HCs change theyre mind, altho i wouldnt bet on it
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I have a very very hard time believing the incoming you recieved was as organised as the "onslaughter" asc had for 3-4 days by 4 alliances. We easily topped 300 fleets incoming on those days as an ally but we coped and kept fighting. Ptargeted for 2-3 weeks, get real
2-3 weeks of being targetted (NOTE: no P!) by (at different times!) 5 alliances (most of which wouldnt defend us ingal either, something asc heavy gals don't suffer from). We had 2 nights in this period without ANY alliance TARGETTING Denial. Ascendancy had 3/4 allies hit them for 4 nights, a couple of gals hit on a couple of other nights (gal raids, omg!).

Well done for winning the round, but missrepresenting the facts (I apologise if its a case of you just not knowing them but then just stfu) to make yourself look better (and your beaten opponents worse) is kind of pathetic.. cant you just let the rankings speak? You took advantage of favourable circumstances, were able to grow big untouched, took A LOT of incomings for 4 nights (managing pretty unbelievable activity in defence) and won the round.. well done, lets not sugar coat it.
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i belive Denial could stand a chance
denial+3 bumbuddies did not manage to roid 4 planets in 3-2 without heavy losses. When did they plan to bring our heavy weapons? 7 rounds after current one?
Nestorn, stop posting unfactual shit how good denial could had been, and face the fact that asc outplayed your alliance.
Your post where funny first day, now they are bullshit.
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