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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
http://beta.planetarion.com/history/?id=6&round=50
With the exception of APP we had more incs than anyone in the 'enemy' block. We also had a high amount of attacks typically used to ground people attacking us. Rock had more attacks but they didnt get hardly any incs if you consider most of theirs are from a single 3 day period.
150-200 of TGVs incs were from one planet on the last night so for the round they get about as many incs as ROCK/CT
We also had the most alliance defense and considering we didnt defend the last 4 days at least that's quite a bit.
Any way you look at it we played our game had fun and won. GG
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It doesnt matter when the incomings come as long as they come. Wether you fight them off early, mid round or late incomings are incomings. By your reasoning lets exclude a 24-36 tick span of ND incomings and recalculate how many hostiles you got.
Incomings are incomings and if an alliance got them and fought them off good for them.
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Originally Posted by Kalie
BTW rock isnt good at taking our their opponent. It's the block who is good at taking out their opponent. Rock solely alone can do hmmm I dont want to be rude but I am sure all the others know what I am talking about. The key alliance isnt Rock or CT it was TGV. They were the kingmakers.
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/me watches as his head swells
Time to sit on some ice so I let off some cool air instead of hot air :P
As much as I would like to think the above is true its a lot of other factors. Apprime was able to absorb a lot of incomigns from the enemy block while ct/tgv/rock were free to attack for the most part. Sometimes non-app got incomings and we had to ground but for the most part Apprime was the punching bag and got the majority of the incomings while the other alliances supported them when they could and hit back.
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
Really the whole issue was with strategy ... my strategy was for us to keep hitting APP another night then move onto TGV ... however FaNG I think had an agreement or just didnt want to hit them and wanted to hit ROCK ... LeeAdama was still doing the politics and this is what we ended up going for.
If the block would have continued to focus on TGV first and eliminate them prior to hitting rock and giving them a reason to join the block no one would have had the combined power to do much IMO.
The kingmaker or killer was the unification of one block vs one group and the other block at one point all hitting totally different targets.
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This might have worked but I dont think it would have. It would have just made TGV roid poor but heavy in fleet value which is always dangerous. Yeah we would have lost some members and gone a bit inactive but we wouldnt have quit. The above could have led to a prolonged war kinda what ult/zwan started with TGV.
You could have given us quite a bit of incomings, but if you did that would free up apprime to counter attack and they could have done a lot of damage. I dont think the above would have worked quite well since instead of apprime getting the incomigns and grounding it would be TGV and leave apprime free to attack. The block worked alright together and we might not have been able to help each other out on defense a lot but on attacks we usually coordinated quite well.
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
We had a non aggression pact, a relationship, we ended our relationship how is this backstabbing? BTW You good friends in TGV also wanted to hit you the whole uni wanted to hit rock for not getting incomings two or three days b4 we hit you clouds was asking me to stop hitting APP and hit you with them. Everyone knew what rock was doing and no one planned on letting rock win that way ... and when the metal was put in the fire you folded and folded hard.
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Of course we wanted to hit them, they were full of roids and not aligned with any block. It would be silly not to talk about hitting rock and getting their roids. This is a war game and not a sim game.
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Originally Posted by Kalie
But leave all this bullshizzle behind and up to the next round...where I will enjoy crushing vulture alliances to my heart content.... Bloody Roar...coming...
I will post again in 2 months
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Ah crap, does that mean I have to supply you with some more ***** to keep you happy. Its hard to find females that are into your crazy stuff =D
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
You're running a marathon. You arrive at the start with your buddies and when the starter pistol goes off, all of you start running. But after 100m you decide that, you know what, this running business is for chumps. You'd rather take the car. Your friends keep going. Then halfway to the finish line, your engine dies. Shit. Well, guess you'd better start running again. After half an hour, your buddies catch up with you and you yell at them for keeping you waiting all this time.
Context is important.
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Very nice Mz, probably the best way to paraphrase a lot of political mambo-jumbo that always floats around.
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Originally Posted by Kalie
Hmmm I was inactive for like 3/4 of the round so I dont really know what my fellow pe0ns HC have agreed on with other alliances. The breaking nap with TGV was from both sides:
1. C provokes S 2. S provokes C back 3. C went whacko 4. S went whacko 5. C and S fighting 6. conclusion no more nap.
I dont really know what the deal was with rock but I rememberred they attacked with their block around tick 500 on FAnG. Breaking their avoidance agreement first so I guess what comes around goes around.
But either way I dont like breaking naps or stabbing or whateva you guys call it. So the allies who think they were unjustified by our actions I hereby apolagise as FAnG Boss to the alliances who were wronged.
ok this is my last post back in 2 months!
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I actually had to PM Santa to get clarification on what happened. From the info I got, Santa was in #tgv and him and Kai were going at it. Kai was being his usual self and instigating things. He was only a member and members dont have any authority and everyone knows how good Kai is in getting under peoples skin. Next thing I knew Santa/Fang ended the NAP early and we got hit I think that very day or the next day. Cant remember. NAP was ended by Santa informing Clouds.
I was disappointed in how it was ended since for several days we were asked to hit Fang but we refused since we had a NAP with them. TGV got a lot of grieve for upholding it and not breaking it since we wanted to play politically clean, or as clean as we could. So Fang ending the NAP early did not sit well with TGV. I understand (partially) why they did it, but it probably was not the best move on their part considering what else was going on. But whats done is done, no hard feelings and round 51 will be another opportunity to make new friends and meet new enemies on the field of battle =).
Now looking at the alliance stats....
ROCK - WOW you guys were very aggressive in attacking. Nicely done, but considering the Brazilian players were 3 fleeting a lot it would explain why your defense was pretty low. If you can get that fixed and get some more night time people you have a good chance of hanging on to your ill gotten loot.
I am surprised that Apprime had more incomings than Ultores. I thought we gave Ultores lots of incomings but I guess maybe not as much as Fang/ND put on Apprime.
I thought in TGV we forced a lot more incoming recalls than what the stats show. Would be nice if we could exclude the last 36 ticks to see how many incomigns we forced to recall since the last few ticks probably skew the numbers quite a bit.
Kinda surprised that CT had almost as many incomings as TGV but I guess innuendo was making quite a nuisance of themselves.
Except for rock and apprime it seems the alliances part of the block war were all actively launching attacks since we all have about the same number of attack fleets.
Ult, Fang, Apprime had more forts which would explain all the in-gal defense. Something other alliances might want to check into since a proper fort can stop about 60% of all incomings.
Well that's all I have to say. Long post, sorry. I guess the most important thing is...
Nicely done on the win New Dawn. A win is a win no matter how you got there. Round 50 is history, on to round 51 where it all starts over again, cya then.
-RexDrax