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1 Feb 2006, 23:09
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[football] Our defence is a joke
Arsenal 2 - 3 West Ham.
We started with
Gilbert - Djorou - Campell - Senderos
Then Gilbert got injured, replaced by Flamini..
After first 45 Sol Campell goes off, and Larsson comes on.
Sebastian Larsson is a 20 year old midfielder....
So we have a 21 year old central defender playing as right back(?), a 18 year old central defender, a 20 year old midfielder playing as central defender and a 20 year old central defender playing as left back.
I hope Wenger doesnt wonder why we loose
And Bentley, who we just sold to Rovers, have made 3 goals for them against ManU.
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1 Feb 2006, 23:10
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov
After first 45 Sol Campell goes off, and Larsson comes on.
Sebastian Larsson is a 20 year old midfielder....
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And almost certainly played better than Campbell, who was singlehandedly responsible for the first two West Ham goals.
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1 Feb 2006, 23:25
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
So I have read. I assume Flamini took up Gilbert position at the right back.
Sadly I had to go to a meeting, so I couldnt watch the game
On the bright side, I missed the game.
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1 Feb 2006, 23:26
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
It's not particularly Wenger's fault in any case - your defense is where you have the most strength in depth, you just have injury problems which, when combined with the ACoN, cause shortages.
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1 Feb 2006, 23:29
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
Too many injury problems though Mark.
I was pissed off to hear Justin Hoyte is playing elsewhere - not sure if on loan or indefinately. - he would have been ace imo.
Guess Arsenal are heading for the same bad patch Man Utd went through :/
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1 Feb 2006, 23:33
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
It's true that we have a lot of injured player right now.
Lauren
Cole
Clichy
Cygan
Gilbert just added
Toure and Ebouve playing African Cup.
But still, there is no player in the age group between Cole and Campell.
And even if the likes of Senderos, Djorou and Gilbert are talented players, they still doesnt have the experience to man a back line of their own yet.
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1 Feb 2006, 23:33
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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I was pissed off to hear Justin Hoyte is playing elsewhere - not sure if on loan or indefinately. - he would have been ace imo.
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Sunderland, loan.
And it's not Wenger's fault Campbell suddenly became crap. At least it clears up the Ferdinand vs Campbell debates.
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2 Feb 2006, 00:00
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
I predict Arsenal to lose 10 games (so far 8) and finish 4th.
Arsenal has lost the plot ever since the departure of Vieira.
EDIT: I was going to put 5th and qualify for UEFA Cup but my bias kicked in.
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2 Feb 2006, 01:23
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
To be honest though - Man Utd's defence was hardly spectacluar either tonight.
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2 Feb 2006, 01:34
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
You think you have defence problems???!!!
*cough* celtic *cough*
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2 Feb 2006, 02:09
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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*cough* celtic *cough*
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At least they're flying high at the top of their league.
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2 Feb 2006, 02:12
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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At least they're flying high at the top of their league.
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Scoring 3 goals in a game to draw tho ...
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2 Feb 2006, 02:14
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
Top of the table clubs moaning about defensive worries.
Not that you care about your defence when you have D'Alessandro.
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2 Feb 2006, 02:18
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
look we may be top but our defence IS ABSOLUTELY WOEFUL!
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2 Feb 2006, 02:22
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
yeah, but it doesnt need to be good when the rest of the league is that shit, christ, put sunderland in the SPL and they would be positively mid table!
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2 Feb 2006, 02:50
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
the front half of our team is title-winning. the back half of our team contains david murphy and 4 from a wide selection of people who trip over their own feet.
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2 Feb 2006, 04:04
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
Considering the performance, and the stats, arsenal were hard done.
First west ham cole, part cambell mistake, mostly ****ing lucky west ham, score with second attempt agaisnt the run of play, arsenal 70% possesion
Second, well... good goal
Third, undeserved.
However, larsson was damn good
I was impressed by arsenals attitude at hte start of the game, and after the goals for once
about the hat tricks, wiltords been getting them for lyon, so its snakes and ladders...
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2 Feb 2006, 06:20
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
This is my first time posting in a [football] thread.
I know that American indoor soccer is surely an object of scorn in the rest of the civilized world, however. in Stockton, California, it is all we have. We just got a team this year.
When I see others complaining about their team I smile. The Stockton team thus far this season has a
1-15 record and that win was on the road.
I probably won't be posting in any more football threads in the near future, but should Stockton ever win another game, I may put it in a real football thread just for giggles.
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2 Feb 2006, 10:38
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
We might finish ahead of Arsenal at this rate .
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2 Feb 2006, 10:59
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
i'm currently looking at the odds for the three north east teams to all get relegated, which i think would be the funniest thing ever to happen in the history of football
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2 Feb 2006, 12:43
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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put sunderland in the SPL and they would be positively mid table!
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Now let's not go nuts here
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2 Feb 2006, 13:05
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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2 Feb 2006, 13:45
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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I knew it was going to happen. And my feeling was right, either before or after Saturday's game.
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2 Feb 2006, 13:46
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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We might finish ahead of Arsenal at this rate .
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Heh.
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2 Feb 2006, 13:47
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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Freddy Shepherd sacks manager the instant transfer window closes, noone shocked.
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2 Feb 2006, 13:47
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
HE JUST WANTED TO DO GOOD, DAMMIT.
GOOOOOOOOD
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2 Feb 2006, 13:48
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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OMG the poor Toon fans!! Didn't Fat Freddy witness Roeder guiding the West Ham team that "was too good to go down" into the First Division? I reckon they will have 'Souness Back!' banners within a month.
With regards to Arsenal, where do I start?
It seems to be the more experienced players that are letting us down at the moment, Sol's display last night was terrible, is he even fit? He can't jump, run or turn, I would have left Highbury at half time and hid under a rock if I played that bad and i'm not even any good at football and Gilberto looks half the player he was when Vieira was there. Last night on about four or five occasions he stopped running and stood over the ball and lost possesion when there were players in acres of space he could have passed to.
We are just as frustrating in attack, I counted six situations where we had an attacking player on the edge of or in the box with a clear shot at goal but instead the decide to pass/try a one meter through ball! Take a ****ing shot for Pete's sake! You never know, it might go in but even if it doesn't there is a chance the keeper will spill it of be forced to push it wide for a corner.
Then we get to corners, do we actually practice these at all? Every week regardless of who is taking it (Henry/Pires/RvP) the crosses are useless, it is either too short and doesn't get past the first defender or over hit and it goes too far and out for a goal kick. Take a look at Bolton, Chelsea and Everton they put the ball into the box and create trouble whenever they have a corner and score a goal from one possibly 20% of the time.
Sorry for being a whining Gooner, I thought I got it out of my system last night. Obviously not.
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2 Feb 2006, 17:18
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
boohoohoo we only have 300 million to spend on defenders......
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2 Feb 2006, 18:28
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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boohoohoo we only have 300 million to spend on defenders......
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which team is that, real madrid? I thought they're millions in debt?
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2 Feb 2006, 18:35
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
Seems Sol Campell wont be playing the Birmingham game.
But Gilbert seems to be ok.
So perhaps we will start with this line then:
Gilbert - Djorou - Larsson - Senderos
With an average age of 19.3 years or something...
update: seems Gilbert will be out, so it will probably be Flamini who will replace him..
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2 Feb 2006, 19:53
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov
Seems Sol Campell wont be playing the Birmingham game.
But Gilbert seems to be ok.
So perhaps we will start with this line then:
Gilbert - Djorou - Larsson - Senderos
With an average age of 19.3 years or something...
update: seems Gilbert will be out, so it will probably be Flamini who will replace him..
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Larsson came on at left back last night and Senderos was moved into the middle and I expect that to be the case against Birmingham. Larsson looked pretty good at left back although he spent more time attacking than defending and I have been very impressed with the rest of the young defenders so far.
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2 Feb 2006, 20:01
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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With an average age of 19.3 years or something...
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3 Feb 2006, 21:47
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Re: [football] Our defence is a joke
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The problem's created in midfield. Most forward play is ditacted through the middle, and Petrov/Nakamura go forward to cover for Hartson (who can't handle the pace because he's fat and old etc) which leaves the centre of the park defended by Keane or Lennon. So it's made fairly easy for a team to play a long ball into the midfield for a counter-attack, which is conveniently pretty much what most teams in the SPL try to do against us. The flanks are also exposed as not one of our wingers can tackle to save their life, and if we're playing a 3-5-2....you can't play a 3-5-2 with four attacking midfielders covered by a retirement home escapee, that's madness.
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