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Unread 16 Sep 2003, 01:05   #1
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Oh just fk off Hollywood

So the americans decide to make a film about the Battle of Britain and how the brave British pilots who are hugely outnumbered fend off Ze Germans in the air, right?

Er, no.

Tom Cruise and a bunch of yanks save the day for struggling Blighty seems to be the order of the day for this upcomming movie.

Bearing in mind that there were a whole twelve US pilots involved in the Battle of Britain, it seems that they've done what I thought was impossible and topped the utter bollocks they put about in that damn U-boat movie.
Not content with re-writing the history of an important naval attack to further boost thier own unrelenting patriotism and misinform the millions of muppets over there who believe everything Hollywood tells them, they decide to re-write one of the most important and deciding battles of all time.

Oh well, at least we can solve the Ozone hole - just plug it with the director's ego.
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Just like U571, innit.
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The pilot that Cruise is playing never shot down a german plane, only went on three missions and was killed after being shot down.

In real life that is, not the film version.
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what movie are you talking about?
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i hope it's as good as top gun

(its called 'the few' btw...)
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The pilot that Cruise is playing never shot down a german plane, only went on three missions and was killed after being shot down.

In real life that is, not the film version.
Actually i think he died after crash landing - heres hoping the same happens to Mr Stumpy stand on a box.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/

I see no mention of 'The Few' or any such movie reference at the time of this post.

WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/

I see no mention of 'The Few' or any such movie reference at the time of this post.

WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
google "the few" + tom cruise

i like the way he saves the ailing RAF the most
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Sounds ****ing gay actually.

Pearl Harbor's rendition of the Battle of Britain was bad enough... :/
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i think it sounds actually, top gun was one of the best films EVER so this is guaranteed(!) to be good too!
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Actually i think he died after crash landing - heres hoping the same happens to Mr Stumpy stand on a box.
He died after crashing, due to being shot out of the air?

After, you could say, being SHOT DOWN?
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The pilot that Cruise is playing never shot down a german plane, only went on three missions and was killed after being shot down.

In real life that is, not the film version.
I thought the pilot that Cruise is playing was Billy Fiske, who I believe is credited with shooting down 6 german aircraft?
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i was just wondering.. on a diffrent but same note. was this movie anygood? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064072/. Or this one? http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0064571/
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I thought the pilot that Cruise is playing was Billy Fiske, who I believe is credited with shooting down 6 german aircraft?
According to The Sun you are wrong, he never shot anything down during the Battle of Britain.

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why no write a letter to the studio asking them why they persist in defiling our nations history with their propaganda bull****?
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that flat earth society page seems to degenerate into a joke

im so dissapointed.
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why does anyone care? they seem to like these kind of propaganda shows over there.
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if he shoots down ben affleck i will purchase four copies of the dvd when it comes out.

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According to The Sun you are wrong, he never shot anything down during the Battle of Britain.

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I can't remember where I saw it, but it wasn't in the Sun.
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I beleive the official line is that he had 0 confirmed kills but a number of probable kills. Cant take anything away from this guy, he left the US to come fight for Britain, which is certainly admirable, but not quite to the proportions I imagine the film will go to.

Meh, if its as good as top gun, who cares.
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Anyhow. It's quite horrible to watch the americans re-write history to make them look better. Im just worried what our children will learn, one day
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Anyhow. It's quite horrible to watch the americans re-write history to make them look better. Im just worried what our children will learn, one day
We're avoiding the whole "learning" thing.
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Hollywood has to face up to the idea that it does have some cultural and even educational power over people. It then has to face up to the idea that it needs to act responsibly.

Incidentally why is it even neccesary to fictionalise pieces of history in this way to create even a remotely good story?
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It's still going on, and if you believe it's irresponsible or just plain wrong then it's still going to provoke a reaction whether you watch it or not.

And if you think it's going to have a ill-effect on people in general then you're all but bound to be concerned.
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Errrrr, so?



YES, FICTION CLEARLY NEVER INFLUENCED ANYBODY.
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shouldnt you people be more concerned about the us-goverment messing up the future than about some hollywood movie rewriting history?
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shouldnt you people be more concerned about the us-goverment messing up the future than about some hollywood movie rewriting history?
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Erm, so we should ban all fiction?

And before you're off to storm the castle, does anyone know for a fact what historical inaccuracies, if any, will be in this film?
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Exactly. Which is sort of 'our point.' Responsiblity and all that.
Oups. I didn't recognize your valliant attempt at screening people from fiction.
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Cant take anything away from this guy, he left the US to come fight for Britain, which is certainly admirable, but not quite to the proportions I imagine the film will go to.
No-ones trying to take anything away from him, what people (or I at least) object to is this film is more than likely going to add alot to Fisk and the few other Americans and take away from the thousands of British, Commonwealth, Polish, Czech and other nationalities that fought and died for this country as well.
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Erm, so we should ban all fiction?
When did I even allude to banning anything?

All I've talked about so far is people excercising discretion and acting responsibly with regards to their output. Not a terrible amount to ask.
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