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16 Sep 2003, 01:05
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Oh just fk off Hollywood
So the americans decide to make a film about the Battle of Britain and how the brave British pilots who are hugely outnumbered fend off Ze Germans in the air, right?
Er, no.
Tom Cruise and a bunch of yanks save the day for struggling Blighty seems to be the order of the day for this upcomming movie.
Bearing in mind that there were a whole twelve US pilots involved in the Battle of Britain, it seems that they've done what I thought was impossible and topped the utter bollocks they put about in that damn U-boat movie.
Not content with re-writing the history of an important naval attack to further boost thier own unrelenting patriotism and misinform the millions of muppets over there who believe everything Hollywood tells them, they decide to re-write one of the most important and deciding battles of all time.
Oh well, at least we can solve the Ozone hole - just plug it with the director's ego.
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16 Sep 2003, 01:09
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Just like U571, innit.
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16 Sep 2003, 01:11
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The pilot that Cruise is playing never shot down a german plane, only went on three missions and was killed after being shot down.
In real life that is, not the film version.
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16 Sep 2003, 01:13
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what movie are you talking about?
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16 Sep 2003, 01:13
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i hope it's as good as top gun
(its called 'the few' btw...)
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16 Sep 2003, 01:16
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
The pilot that Cruise is playing never shot down a german plane, only went on three missions and was killed after being shot down.
In real life that is, not the film version.
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Actually i think he died after crash landing - heres hoping the same happens to Mr Stumpy stand on a box.
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16 Sep 2003, 01:23
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etc.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/
I see no mention of 'The Few' or any such movie reference at the time of this post.
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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16 Sep 2003, 01:25
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Quote:
Originally posted by HobbieRogue4
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/
I see no mention of 'The Few' or any such movie reference at the time of this post.
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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google "the few" + tom cruise
i like the way he saves the ailing RAF the most
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16 Sep 2003, 01:48
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etc.
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Sounds ****ing gay actually.
Pearl Harbor's rendition of the Battle of Britain was bad enough... :/
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16 Sep 2003, 01:53
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Damn Dog
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i think it sounds actually, top gun was one of the best films EVER so this is guaranteed(!) to be good too!
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16 Sep 2003, 02:56
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Quote:
Originally posted by NibNub
Actually i think he died after crash landing - heres hoping the same happens to Mr Stumpy stand on a box.
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He died after crashing, due to being shot out of the air?
After, you could say, being SHOT DOWN?
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16 Sep 2003, 03:36
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
The pilot that Cruise is playing never shot down a german plane, only went on three missions and was killed after being shot down.
In real life that is, not the film version.
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I thought the pilot that Cruise is playing was Billy Fiske, who I believe is credited with shooting down 6 german aircraft?
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16 Sep 2003, 06:34
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i was just wondering.. on a diffrent but same note. was this movie anygood? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064072/. Or this one? http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0064571/
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16 Sep 2003, 07:15
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It's Entertainment.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REAL.
LEARN TO GRASP THAT CONCEPT IN THE FUTURE.
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16 Sep 2003, 07:48
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tactitus
I thought the pilot that Cruise is playing was Billy Fiske, who I believe is credited with shooting down 6 german aircraft?
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According to The Sun you are wrong, he never shot anything down during the Battle of Britain.
I believe everything The Sun tells me
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16 Sep 2003, 07:54
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mirai
It's Entertainment.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REAL.
LEARN TO GRASP THAT CONCEPT IN THE FUTURE.
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It's re-writing history
It's wrong
It's only Entertaining to Americans who will take this as the truth
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16 Sep 2003, 07:58
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16 Sep 2003, 10:25
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die die die
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16 Sep 2003, 11:24
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mirai
It's Entertainment.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REAL.
LEARN TO GRASP THAT CONCEPT IN THE FUTURE.
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hollywood is reality for yanks. they are ignorant enough as it is, you can't fuel them with extra ignorance.
they'll start thinking that the world is flat! omg omg omg!
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16 Sep 2003, 11:33
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zar
hollywood is reality for yanks. they are ignorant enough as it is, you can't fuel them with extra ignorance.
they'll start thinking that the world is flat! omg omg omg!
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so hostile
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16 Sep 2003, 11:41
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why no write a letter to the studio asking them why they persist in defiling our nations history with their propaganda bull****?
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16 Sep 2003, 11:43
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that flat earth society page seems to degenerate into a joke
im so dissapointed.
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16 Sep 2003, 11:56
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why does anyone care? they seem to like these kind of propaganda shows over there.
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16 Sep 2003, 12:40
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if he shoots down ben affleck i will purchase four copies of the dvd when it comes out.
even if it is 'revisionist history'
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16 Sep 2003, 13:09
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
According to The Sun you are wrong, he never shot anything down during the Battle of Britain.
I believe everything The Sun tells me
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I can't remember where I saw it, but it wasn't in the Sun.
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16 Sep 2003, 13:27
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I've looked on several lists of WW2 aces and can't find this Fiske chap, I can therefore only conclude he didn't actually shoot anyone down.
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16 Sep 2003, 14:49
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I beleive the official line is that he had 0 confirmed kills but a number of probable kills. Cant take anything away from this guy, he left the US to come fight for Britain, which is certainly admirable, but not quite to the proportions I imagine the film will go to.
Meh, if its as good as top gun, who cares.
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16 Sep 2003, 14:54
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Quote:
Originally posted by Haer
Cant take anything away from this guy, he left the US to come fight for Britain, which is certainly admirable,
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True, he was willing to die for Britain, which is more than I can say for most Brits (including me).
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16 Sep 2003, 15:08
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Do something other then complain. Write angry letters, put up (over the movie posters) anti posters, get cool slogans and dress up as nodrog.
Anyhow. It's quite horrible to watch the americans re-write history to make them look better. Im just worried what our children will learn, one day
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16 Sep 2003, 15:10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Snurx
Anyhow. It's quite horrible to watch the americans re-write history to make them look better. Im just worried what our children will learn, one day
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We're avoiding the whole "learning" thing.
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16 Sep 2003, 15:29
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Face it. It's going to be a huge success and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
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16 Sep 2003, 18:14
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zar
hollywood is reality for yanks.
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Or not.
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16 Sep 2003, 18:20
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Hollywood has to face up to the idea that it does have some cultural and even educational power over people. It then has to face up to the idea that it needs to act responsibly.
Incidentally why is it even neccesary to fictionalise pieces of history in this way to create even a remotely good story?
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16 Sep 2003, 18:24
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Who are these "British"?
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16 Sep 2003, 18:46
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Quote:
Originally posted by Leshy
Who are these "British"?
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16 Sep 2003, 18:49
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If you don't like it your not forced to watch it, nor google for it or anything else.
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16 Sep 2003, 18:53
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Who cares about america rewriting history....look what they did to The Italian Job FFS !
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16 Sep 2003, 18:55
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Quote:
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If you don't like it your not forced to watch it,
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Who cares?
It's still going on, and if you believe it's irresponsible or just plain wrong then it's still going to provoke a reaction whether you watch it or not.
And if you think it's going to have a ill-effect on people in general then you're all but bound to be concerned.
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16 Sep 2003, 18:58
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IT'S FICTION FOR GODS SAKE!
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I wish we could trademark for a less shitty poster
hahahahahahaha, get it?
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16 Sep 2003, 19:03
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Errrrr, so?
YES, FICTION CLEARLY NEVER INFLUENCED ANYBODY.
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16 Sep 2003, 19:06
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shouldnt you people be more concerned about the us-goverment messing up the future than about some hollywood movie rewriting history?
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16 Sep 2003, 19:06
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
shouldnt you people be more concerned about the us-goverment messing up the future than about some hollywood movie rewriting history?
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Who said we weren't?
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16 Sep 2003, 19:09
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Errrrr, so?
YES, FICTION CLEARLY NEVER INFLUENCED ANYBODY.
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Weak people.
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I wish we could trademark for a less shitty poster
hahahahahahaha, get it?
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16 Sep 2003, 19:10
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Weak people.
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Exactly. Which is sort of 'our point.' Responsiblity and all that.
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16 Sep 2003, 19:14
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Quote:
Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
YES, FICTION CLEARLY NEVER INFLUENCED ANYBODY. [/b]
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Erm, so we should ban all fiction?
And before you're off to storm the castle, does anyone know for a fact what historical inaccuracies, if any, will be in this film?
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16 Sep 2003, 19:14
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Exactly. Which is sort of 'our point.' Responsiblity and all that.
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Oups. I didn't recognize your valliant attempt at screening people from fiction.
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I wish we could trademark for a less shitty poster
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16 Sep 2003, 19:15
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Gone
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cynical Oracle
I didn't recognize your valliant attempt
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You didn't recognise anything. Nothing that was actually relevant, etc.
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16 Sep 2003, 19:17
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Quote:
Originally posted by Haer
Cant take anything away from this guy, he left the US to come fight for Britain, which is certainly admirable, but not quite to the proportions I imagine the film will go to.
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No-ones trying to take anything away from him, what people (or I at least) object to is this film is more than likely going to add alot to Fisk and the few other Americans and take away from the thousands of British, Commonwealth, Polish, Czech and other nationalities that fought and died for this country as well.
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16 Sep 2003, 19:19
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Quote:
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Who cares about america rewriting history....look what they did to The Italian Job FFS !
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He's right you know.
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16 Sep 2003, 19:21
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Gone
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Quote:
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Erm, so we should ban all fiction?
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When did I even allude to banning anything?
All I've talked about so far is people excercising discretion and acting responsibly with regards to their output. Not a terrible amount to ask.
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