Congrats Ultores

[t3k]

Presumptuous, maybe.

But Jesus H. Christ, this round never made it out of the 'Predictions' thread on the forums?! What happened to banter?! Don't make me make you wish you'd created your own drama! Heh.

(Also, wholly 'lol' that Ultores have made - and been allowed to make - such an epic comeback. Just watching on 'sandmans' it's been entertaining to see the 50m gap disappear in the space of about 8 days.)

Remarkable achievement, regardless of the outcome.

[ArcChas]

Agreed.

Credit to Ultores - and shame on "the rest" for allowing them a fifth successive title.

[Mzyxptlk]

A ****ing embarrassment is what it is.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

A ****ing embarrassment is what it is.

I think ultores is a good as anyone in the game, so i dont think its embarrasing at all.

[isildurx]

Of course it is an embarrassing, losing 70m in 8 days is beyond preposterous. You almost have to try and lose that much in order to do it.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I think ultores is a good as anyone in the game, so i dont think its embarrasing at all.

If this isn't an embarrassment, then I don't know what is.

[VenoX]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

If this isn't an embarrassment, then I don't know what is.

I prefer it when you add Haven too.

[VenoX]

In fact, 10 days back is even better.

[BloodyButcher]

CT were outsmarted by Ultores, and their tactic didnt work out.

[Mzyxptlk]

What was the tactic?

[guzlic]

Congratulations.

Now that Ultores proved they are the best, and that they can not be beaten, i wonder what the next move is. As i see it, if Ultores plays next round, other alliances don't have anything to play for.

The strength of Ult dictates every round (huge blocks to hit them that fail, and Ult win). Simply their activity, good leadership and political skills can not be matched by any alliance. In a game that majority plays casually, hardcore alliance will always win. And that is why i don't think it's an embarrassment to be beaten by them in any circumstances.

[neroon]

Ultores has pulled off a miracle! This was mission impossible, which was made possible by doing some ridiculously good playing and politics.

Good job mates, makes me very proud to be in the family for the last 4 rounds!

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

What was the tactic?

Not grounding, trying to harras HvN so they would give up and attack Ultores.
How ever, HvN was a hard nut to crack, they would rather go down with the ship, securing 3rd.

[neroon]

<3 bitcher.. i really hope such a valuable player does not dissapear anywhere and carries on his important misison to be the town`s clown.

I really hope that u also find the job interesting and do not get tired of it in the near future. I really admire the effort u put in, this comes from the heart, no doubt!

Youres truly,
Ivar

[Mzyxptlk]

Securing third!? I lol'd.

[edit] Well, I guess they could lose another 50m today and let xVx catch up. Better play it safe!

[Zaejii]

I partly feel sorry for the guy that promised he would buy credits for all Ultores members if they finished 1st this round..

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Securing third!? I lol'd.

[edit] Well, I guess they could lose another 50m today and let xVx catch up. Better play it safe!

Well i think their goal was 2nd, but its not too far off.

[Forest]

Someone here did predict this.

Just saying.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Ult CT hAveN it is, then.

Next round, everyone should listen to me.

[Patrikc]

First off, congratulations to Ultores, I doubt anyone would question you being the best alliance left today.

However, I'm rather annoyed by the phrase "epic comeback" being used, when it was CT/HaveN that threw away so much value/roids that Ultores only had to pick it up. When your opponents make as many mistakes as they (we) did, it's hard not to come back from it.


Still, Ultores capitalized on it perfectly and brought home the e-trophy once again!

[Shev]

Haven's baffling move to pick a fight with a neutral but extremely dangerous alliance over gal ranks was a pretty big turning point.

[t3k]

Originally Posted by Patrikc

First off, congratulations to Ultores, I doubt anyone would question you being the best alliance left today.

However, I'm rather annoyed by the phrase "epic comeback" being used, when it was CT/HaveN that threw away so much value/roids that Ultores only had to pick it up. When your opponents make as many mistakes as they (we) did, it's hard not to come back from it.


Still, Ultores capitalized on it perfectly and brought home the e-trophy once again!

For an alliance to take the beating Ultores did, and to stay focused and play on and do what was necessary to take the win, was quite epic.

[MiX]

Originally Posted by t3k

For an alliance to take the beating Ultores did, and to stay focused and play on and do what was necessary to take the win, was quite epic.

Beatings at the start are not nearly as harmful as beatings near the end, and for whatever reason ult was leader of the massive block at the end of the round for at least the 2 rounds I ve played. They are without a doubt the best alliance playing PA these days, however, without everyone joining them at the end, in what has to be the biggest block in the round, picking off allies ranked above ult one by one, they would never win.

This jumping on the ult bandwagon is what rly kills the round, not ult itself. That attitude in the universe has to change. If I had more time id prolly start an allie aiming specifically to pick on ppl that jump on the band wagon in order to avoid being hit. I dont have the time however, so too bad

Instead I ll hope that at least CT and Fang/haven will learn that the block they join with ult to take down the at that time #1 allie will, without a doubt, turn on them (and recruit the allie that they were initially hitting... Lol)

[Illusion]

If CT wasnt so extremly pro blocking/gangbanging, maybe the usually neutral allys wouldnt be so tempted to make them taste theyr own medicine?

[LynchMob]

/me LOLZ quietly for some reason at CT.

[Clouds]

Originally Posted by MiX

This jumping on the ult bandwagon is what rly kills the round, not ult itself. That attitude in the universe has to change.

Originally Posted by MiX

Instead I ll hope that at least CT and Fang/haven will learn that the block they join with ult to take down the at that time #1 allie will, without a doubt, turn on them (and recruit the allie that they were initially hitting... Lol)

Or learn that if you block against Ultores and 'threaten' to hit them until they quit may influence other alliances to support them; hence their constant sucesses in their last 2 consecutive rounds.

[Wouter]

Originally Posted by MiX

Beatings at the start are not nearly as harmful as beatings near the end, and for whatever reason ult was leader of the massive block at the end of the round for at least the 2 rounds I ve played. They are without a doubt the best alliance playing PA these days, however, without everyone joining them at the end, in what has to be the biggest block in the round, picking off allies ranked above ult one by one, they would never win.

This jumping on the ult bandwagon is what rly kills the round, not ult itself. That attitude in the universe has to change. If I had more time id prolly start an allie aiming specifically to pick on ppl that jump on the band wagon in order to avoid being hit. I dont have the time however, so too bad

Instead I ll hope that at least CT and Fang/haven will learn that the block they join with ult to take down the at that time #1 allie will, without a doubt, turn on them (and recruit the allie that they were initially hitting... Lol)

Its CT that insists in block wars in the hope they can avoid incoming. For example in round 43 Ult had a smaller tag, like 47 people and it was our first round under the Ultores tag. Now we became active in blockwars for 1 reason. xVx was getting hit by another CT/ND block. We were small and never expected to play for ally win, we thought the blockwars were lame if the big allies teamed vs a smaller ally, the first thing that comes to mind is, if they bully that ally, why wouldnt they bully us.

I can asure you that by starting a block that bullies, smaller allies will always oppose you out of fear to be next. Lets be honest no one like bullies.. and CT has proven to be the bullying ally. Thats for one reason only too, CT cant deal with incoming at all. They need to have in incoming free round to be able to win cause of their def system. Your HC would have to make harsher decisions for this to change.

1. Ground when you have way more roids then anyone else and you are receiving incs from more then 2 allies.
2. Do not work with defpriority when it comes to incs, your members will want to win, so they WILL understand that top50 gets priority.
3. Keep people overcovering themselfs in check, this happened every day when CT got hit, some planets got like 5 or 6 deffleets too much (PER WAVE)

For those 3 points to work, CT HC should give their members a voice in how CT should be ran. Most allies involve their members into the ally by allowing them acces to intel, callbot, smsbot, dcbot.. This will automaticly create a feeling of being part of a team, trusted.

In short, the only reason Ult wins isnt cause of the ult block, but cause a faulty system in your own ally.

[ArcChas]

Looks like what started as an attempt to congratulate Ult on their achievement is descending into the sort of propaganda for which AD is (in)famous.

[MiX]

Originally Posted by Wouter

Its CT that insists in block wars in the hope they can avoid incoming. For example in round 43 Ult had a smaller tag, like 47 people and it was our first round under the Ultores tag. Now we became active in blockwars for 1 reason. xVx was getting hit by another CT/ND block. We were small and never expected to play for ally win, we thought the blockwars were lame if the big allies teamed vs a smaller ally, the first thing that comes to mind is, if they bully that ally, why wouldnt they bully us.

I can asure you that by starting a block that bullies, smaller allies will always oppose you out of fear to be next. Lets be honest no one like bullies.. and CT has proven to be the bullying ally. Thats for one reason only too, CT cant deal with incoming at all. They need to have in incoming free round to be able to win cause of their def system. Your HC would have to make harsher decisions for this to change.

1. Ground when you have way more roids then anyone else and you are receiving incs from more then 2 allies.
2. Do not work with defpriority when it comes to incs, your members will want to win, so they WILL understand that top50 gets priority.
3. Keep people overcovering themselfs in check, this happened every day when CT got hit, some planets got like 5 or 6 deffleets too much (PER WAVE)

For those 3 points to work, CT HC should give their members a voice in how CT should be ran. Most allies involve their members into the ally by allowing them acces to intel, callbot, smsbot, dcbot.. This will automaticly create a feeling of being part of a team, trusted.

In short, the only reason Ult wins isnt cause of the ult block, but cause a faulty system in your own ally.

I agree with you actually. On your 3 points for improving defense (I got quite some agro when I kept asking to ground in priv chan), And with the sentiment that the block comes to be in part because of CTs actions.

Just pointing out that this way of playing actually is helping ult to win. That is, besides Ult being a very good alliance on top of it all.

[neroon]

Originally Posted by ArcChas

Looks like what started as an attempt to congratulate Ult on their achievement is descending into the sort of propaganda for which AD is (in)famous.

it seems that it cant be avoided indeed.. the fact that an alliance wins 5/5 seems to make ppl so bitter that its impossible for em to say anything good without trying to excuse emselves in some strange ways and/or refering to ult being actually shit and winning cos of some mistake the opposition did or somethng

[Blue_Esper]

we have seen a few different versions of how to play vs ultores.
the first being most recent rounds of block from start keep their value low, demoralise them as much as possible then stop around tick 800 so that the block isn't seen in such a negative way. (this hasn't worked)
the second being allow ultores to do what ever for 500-600 ticks then be like oh shit ultores are #1 lets block them! (this hasn't worked)
the third was leave them alone all round and omg they're first how did they get there?

so its clearly not an attacking problem that alliances face, but a defensive one. the third version was from the first round of ultores, ultores since then has been blocked against in some way or form for no results. My suggestion would be find a different tactic to blocking for extended periods of time, this round has shown that blocking for an extended period of time causes a gap in value and allowed ultores to land for large xp gains which allowed them to gain on their competitors so quickly.
it also makes for a boring round for everyone if its the same targets put up for 2 weeks straight, lets have a dynamic political situation next round plz, rather than everyone gang up on ultores.

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I think ultores is a good as anyone in the game, so i dont think its embarrasing at all.

It's not embarrassing to lose against Barcelona's football team either. It is however, embarrassing if you are up 7-0 with 20 minutes to go

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

It's not embarrassing to lose against Barcelona's football team either. It is however, embarrassing if you are up 7-0 with 20 minutes to go

You clearly paid of the ref, and we were playing a Nou Camp, giving u 9 free penalties gave u the space u needed to come back

[JonnyBGood]

Although I don't really know anything about Ultores having not played a round which they have played in it is good to see that some people are still clearly playing Planetarion at a high level. While some people might start to think that it's easy for you I understand the hard work it requires. I congratulate you all whole-heartedly on relegating my own alliance's four in a row to a foot-note to your own record.

For the outstanding accomplishment of winning five rounds in a row sirs, I doff my hat to you.

[DrunkenViking]

Congratulations Ultores, well deserved.

[Knight]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

You clearly paid of the ref, and we were playing a Nou Camp, giving u 9 free penalties gave u the space u needed to come back

sore much? haha, mug

[oil]

Originally Posted by eksero

It's not embarrassing to lose against Barcelona's football team either. It is however, embarrassing if you are up 7-0 with 20 minutes to go

Then again Barcelona don't play many games where half the oppositions' players are asleep

[oil]

Originally Posted by Blue_Esper

we have seen a few different versions of how to play vs ultores.
the first being most recent rounds of block from start keep their value low, demoralise them as much as possible then stop around tick 800 so that the block isn't seen in such a negative way. (this hasn't worked)
the second being allow ultores to do what ever for 500-600 ticks then be like oh shit ultores are #1 lets block them! (this hasn't worked)
the third was leave them alone all round and omg they're first how did they get there?

so its clearly not an attacking problem that alliances face, but a defensive one. the third version was from the first round of ultores, ultores since then has been blocked against in some way or form for no results. My suggestion would be find a different tactic to blocking for extended periods of time, this round has shown that blocking for an extended period of time causes a gap in value and allowed ultores to land for large xp gains which allowed them to gain on their competitors so quickly.
it also makes for a boring round for everyone if its the same targets put up for 2 weeks straight, lets have a dynamic political situation next round plz, rather than everyone gang up on ultores.

So because hitting Ultores a LOT so far hasn't kept them from winning, in order to create a more "dynamic political situation" next round, people should try...? Attacking them less?

[gzambo]

to beat ult , gang up on them at the start of the round and don't stop until they are out of bash limit even if your only getting 30 roids of a planet that's what's required , but because ct/nd/haven and all the others that have tried are not prepared to stick to it regardless then ult will always come back because unlike the other allys they will ground to deal with incs and they have fantastic fleet usage and unselfish members who don't rank whore (much) or worry about individual and gal ranks before securing ally won is pointless .
having said that congratulations to ultores on securing 5 in a row

[Tiamat101]

I'm not impressed by Ultores. Bad decisions from Haven and CT mean that Ult can win. 280 Ticks is enough time for anything to happen. So If you can't bash an ally that Init most of there roids this round then what are you doing.

HvN needed to have a much stronger and more active HC team and not so hap-hazard. Given its there 1st round they did "OK" they had alot of Flack that didnt need to be there and they shouldn't have challenged for #1, but then again if they didnt who would? Ct? I doubt they can go 1v1 with Ult.

I would like to see a round where its not Giant Block wars, or if you do giant block wars you need to drop the Tag Size to 50 and make the def pool for these "def-whores" Alot Less. Also instead of bashing Ult for 700 ticks to no avail why do you try bashing someone else for 700 ticks and remove them from the picture(Ct or Hvn or Baby).

Well played Ult.

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by Tiamat101

I'm not impressed by Ultores. Bad decisions from Haven and CT mean that Ult can win. 280 Ticks is enough time for anything to happen. So If you can't bash an ally that Init most of there roids this round then what are you doing.

HvN needed to have a much stronger and more active HC team and not so hap-hazard. Given its there 1st round they did "OK" they had alot of Flack that didnt need to be there and they shouldn't have challenged for #1, but then again if they didnt who would? Ct? I doubt they can go 1v1 with Ult.

I would like to see a round where its not Giant Block wars, or if you do giant block wars you need to drop the Tag Size to 50 and make the def pool for these "def-whores" Alot Less. Also instead of bashing Ult for 700 ticks to no avail why do you try bashing someone else for 700 ticks and remove them from the picture(Ct or Hvn or Baby).

Well played Ult.

is it me or is this post written by 2 different people?

"not impressed" and then "well played"

[Tiamat101]

No, Im not impressed that they were able to beat Ct and HvN. I am impressed they were able to do in the fashion that they did.

[Paisley]

This is what happens when you can't fix the defence culture at CT

[neroon]

Originally Posted by gzambo

to beat ult , gang up on them at the start of the round and don't stop until they are out of bash limit even if your only getting 30 roids of a planet that's what's required , but because ct/nd/haven and all the others that have tried are not prepared to stick to it regardless then ult will always come back because unlike the other allys they will ground to deal with incs and they have fantastic fleet usage and unselfish members who don't rank whore (much) or worry about individual and gal ranks before securing ally won is pointless .
having said that congratulations to ultores on securing 5 in a row

Tbh, bashing was not the problem, opposition did it quite well and i guess in some manner they were successful in it..

The problem for the opposition tho, was that hey did not manage their own planets when they got heat.. we were down by miles when they stopped hittin us, but we managed to make one of the beat combacks in pa history. and the comback was so good due to gettin so much opposition dead as we did.. xp played a great roll, but we wouldnt most prolly b able to do it without haven and ct mates crashing that much..

All in all, in my eyes, opposition did quite well to beat us down. the fail came with their own management tho

peace

[Forest]

Originally Posted by neroon

Tbh, bashing was not the problem, opposition did it quite well and i guess in some manner they were successful in it..

The problem for the opposition tho, was that hey did not manage their own planets when they got heat.. we were down by miles when they stopped hittin us, but we managed to make one of the beat combacks in pa history. and the comback was so good due to gettin so much opposition dead as we did.. xp played a great roll, but we wouldnt most prolly b able to do it without haven and ct mates crashing that much..

All in all, in my eyes, opposition did quite well to beat us down. the fail came with their own management tho

peace

qft

[Forest]

Originally Posted by gzambo

to beat ult , gang up on them at the start of the round and don't stop until they are out of bash limit even if your only getting 30 roids of a planet that's what's required , but because ct/nd/haven and all the others that have tried are not prepared to stick to it regardless then ult will always come back because unlike the other allys they will ground to deal with incs and they have fantastic fleet usage and unselfish members who don't rank whore (much) or worry about individual and gal ranks before securing ally won is pointless .
having said that congratulations to ultores on securing 5 in a row

what a crap game when this is neccessary tbh

i would rather lose than bash someone that bad

[ReligFree]

Congrats Ultores - really deserved win.

[Clouds]

If you're going to bash Ultores to stop another consecutive win, do it in a non-bullying manner - don't claim, "We will hit Ultores until they emoquit."

'Attitude' will only draw attention to aiding Ultores, where they'd gain support from 'neutral allys' during and after the gangbang. No-one likes a bully.

Blocking against Ultores for 750 ticks straight was quite idiotic to be honest, especially considering the value differential between Ultores/CT (the block). If CT (the block) and Ultores were roughly on the same amount of value at the time when Ultores started gangbanging CT (and gaining huge amounts of XP), Then CT would've won, despite the amount of crashing they did.

I suppose we'll see another round of "Let's block Ultores for 750 ticks, gain masses of value so Ultores can XP whore their way to the win."

[Forest]

Or maybe I will handle politics this round and do it properly.

[Blue_Esper]

every round is new and each alliance starts off at the same level.