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3 Jul 2016, 14:24
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Over the moon
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Deeeeenmark
Posts: 547
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
You are saying that you signed up to help 3:4 to win by attacking and giving them XP.
That is what you would call farming.
Can i have my friends sign up help me win by either helping me get score/xp/roids by attacking me, initating roids for me, or what ever?
The answer is no.
You just pointed out the obvious thing that everyone has told the MHs, that there is planets out there who is donating XP to 3:4 deliberately, not for the reason tehy want to land a 300 roid planet.
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Hi, I assume your friends signed up with the intention to attack with and/or defend you. How dare they help you gaining roids, xp and additional score by holding on to them. Completely unfair.
While you may not like how someone is playing, it's not cheating. It's a basic feature of the game that we can attack anyone the heart desires, when you want to. Putting restrictions on something like that would do much more harm than good.
We can certainly talk about changing xp def so 1 ship or 7 doesn't give the full amount. I do agree with what eksero said earlier though, you can win this game by attacking only, same thing should be possible for defending. In terms of straight up game score, defending is never worth it. I'd like that to change
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Golan - Ascendancy
Planets.
Zik: 3rd(r30), 4th(r52), 7th(r27), 9th(r26), 31st(r51)
Ter: 3rd(r50), 4th(r53), 4th(r37), 5th(r31) 7th (r58)
Xan: 3rd(r36), 40th(r57) 54th(r33), 104th(r29)
Cat: 8th (r54), 9th(r48), 12th (r55), 20th(r32), 77th(r23), 103rd(r38), 150th(r34), 152nd(r24),
Etd: 14th(r28)
Those damn emp races..
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3 Jul 2016, 14:40
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#302
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Over the moon
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Deeeeenmark
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Yes, that gal first donated to him, and as the round went on, kept on donating to other planets in the gal.
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Actually, the donations happened the round before he won. That was a fun tactic though, looking back we donated too much and didn't initiate enough. The first week he could barely hit anyone and eventually crashed
In r37 BA was with JBG, BENNEH etc. in an extremely inactive gal. I'm sure you'll recall some drama with ellonweb getting extremely fat and never defending, but getting lots of def. It was a clear flagship round for asc, as that was the possiblility we had.
Pretty ironic how BA defied the odds and won a round as cathaargh in a shit gal, after blowing a huge lead in a top gal the previous round.
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Golan - Ascendancy
Planets.
Zik: 3rd(r30), 4th(r52), 7th(r27), 9th(r26), 31st(r51)
Ter: 3rd(r50), 4th(r53), 4th(r37), 5th(r31) 7th (r58)
Xan: 3rd(r36), 40th(r57) 54th(r33), 104th(r29)
Cat: 8th (r54), 9th(r48), 12th (r55), 20th(r32), 77th(r23), 103rd(r38), 150th(r34), 152nd(r24),
Etd: 14th(r28)
Those damn emp races..
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3 Jul 2016, 14:41
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#303
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Over the moon
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Deeeeenmark
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Re: r67 who will win
Now please go on discussing Munkee being a crimerider who lives in a van.
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Golan - Ascendancy
Planets.
Zik: 3rd(r30), 4th(r52), 7th(r27), 9th(r26), 31st(r51)
Ter: 3rd(r50), 4th(r53), 4th(r37), 5th(r31) 7th (r58)
Xan: 3rd(r36), 40th(r57) 54th(r33), 104th(r29)
Cat: 8th (r54), 9th(r48), 12th (r55), 20th(r32), 77th(r23), 103rd(r38), 150th(r34), 152nd(r24),
Etd: 14th(r28)
Those damn emp races..
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3 Jul 2016, 14:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
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Re: r67 who will win
Considering that the planet has 40% more score than the 2nd and that most of this score cant be lost, this was sure a well-rounded strategy.
It is ok by the rules. But the rules do not cover out of game afinities. So we can say it was at least morally wrong. But planet ranking competition has been at least since I joined always a clown's show. So I think it is fine.
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3 Jul 2016, 14:54
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Zotnam
Actually, the donations happened the round before he won. That was a fun tactic though, looking back we donated too much and didn't initiate enough. The first week he could barely hit anyone and eventually crashed
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Ah, that explains the R/P too. I was a little confused at the nicks in the r37 gal when I looked it up, they did not ring any bells. R36 does fit. The phrase 'even more so' in my first response was meant as a reference to the donating.
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Originally Posted by Zotnam
I'm sure you'll recall some drama with ellonweb getting extremely fat and never defending, but getting lots of def.
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Oh, yes. Fun times.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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3 Jul 2016, 15:08
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Zotnam
Hi, I assume your friends signed up with the intention to attack with and/or defend you. How dare they help you gaining roids, xp and additional score by holding on to them. Completely unfair.
While you may not like how someone is playing, it's not cheating. It's a basic feature of the game that we can attack anyone the heart desires, when you want to. Putting restrictions on something like that would do much more harm than good.
We can certainly talk about changing xp def so 1 ship or 7 doesn't give the full amount. I do agree with what eksero said earlier though, you can win this game by attacking only, same thing should be possible for defending. In terms of straight up game score, defending is never worth it. I'd like that to change
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This is obviously where you are wrong.
You are allowed to attack with who you want, defend who you want, and help them gain roids/xp/score by attacking with them/defending them.
As long as you dont breach the "support planet rule", wich basicly put into place to stop out of tag planets escorting/etc.
You are not allowed to initatiate roids for friends to come get.
Or make them land you for free so they can gain XP.
Or attack them so they gain XP or salvage.
Anyone with half a brain will know this to be true.
The restrictions are there to stop abuse, and if a pattern is discovered or someone, like you just did, says they are doing this, you will get closed. Now if there was a MH alive to handle any of the request sent to them they would prolly tell you this.
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3 Jul 2016, 16:25
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Valle is my hero
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,581
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
This is obviously where you are wrong.
You are allowed to attack with who you want, defend who you want, and help them gain roids/xp/score by attacking with them/defending them.
As long as you dont breach the "support planet rule", wich basicly put into place to stop out of tag planets escorting/etc.
You are not allowed to initatiate roids for friends to come get.
Or make them land you for free so they can gain XP.
Or attack them so they gain XP or salvage.
Anyone with half a brain will know this to be true.
The restrictions are there to stop abuse, and if a pattern is discovered or someone, like you just did, says they are doing this, you will get closed. Now if there was a MH alive to handle any of the request sent to them they would prolly tell you this.
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Does that rule actually exist and can you link it please
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3 Jul 2016, 16:34
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,740
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Does that rule actually exist and can you link it please
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The "support planet rule"? I refered to it to the MHs on a few closures a few rounds back, and if its changed its prolly in some change log at the portal?
Its been there for years atleast before
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3 Jul 2016, 16:40
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
You are not allowed to initatiate roids for friends to come get.
Or make them land you for free so they can gain XP.
Or attack them so they gain XP or salvage.
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Why aren't you banned YET?! You are repeatedly breaking forum rules.
They do not initiate roids for their friends, they are initiating roids for themselves. Doesn't matter who comes to try and steal them.
Not to mention that 90% + of the pa community knows each other to some extent now. Therefor most players should be banned for attacking friends. I'm sure you are no exception!
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3 Jul 2016, 16:45
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
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Re: r67 who will win
I also thought the support planet rule didn't exist any more, but here it is:
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Support Accounts are accounts which are dedicated to undertaking specific and repeated actions which result in an unfair benefit for a planet/organisation, where an organisation is defined as an alliance or galaxy.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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3 Jul 2016, 18:35
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#311
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Re: r67 who will win
Well the MH team is pretty much useless not sure they are doing anything.
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3 Jul 2016, 18:48
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#312
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Finally retired
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 788
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Hobster
Well the MH team is pretty much useless not sure they are doing anything.
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don't be an arse, join [TiT]
In the absence of the good old TiT alliance, look me up in VGN
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3 Jul 2016, 18:50
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#313
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,386
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
I haven't shared any bf raid information with your alliance. I have only talked to 1 person from your alliance all round.
Is this the same admin who has commited his complete merlin.cfg to github with passwords to bots, databases etc? You really think you can point fingers when your information is in the public domain like that?
I also make no mention of a crime gang. However I will keep reiterating merlin is insecure, Arthur is even more insecure and the fact someone has informed pit of just one of these issues suggests there are people out there who know of them. Clouds is yet to respond to my comment regarding their knowledge of peoples passwords being the same as their username, which makes it quite clear they are reading these decrypted or plain text to know.
You do not need passwords or usernames to find raid information to me that's a lot of effort when you have friends who can give the info directly.
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Let's revisit some of the facts we have when ChronoX crosschecked with other alliances (to my knowledge Ultores and Rainbows):
- The IP is of Newcastle origin
- Accounts accessed are all
ex-p3n
Seems highly suspecious seeing as you're from Newcastle and all accounts accessed were ex p3n.
These ex p3n members used the same passwords as their p3n webbie login data. Of course, it's idiotic to use the same conditionals.
Let's stop the slander on Munkee please because it's probably coincidence that the assailant is also from Newcastle who has a Samsung Galaxy S6, and obviously has a hell of a lot of spies in varies alliances.
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3 Jul 2016, 20:16
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#314
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Dictator
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
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Re: r67 who will win
Once again. I think pretty much most of PA are ex ult ex bf ex ct ex bows ex p3ng ex newdawn etc I don't get why you are trying to link them back specifically to p3nguins when they have all been elsewhere.
As I have said you are the ones talking about passwords, not me. I reacted to the changes that pit made on github by mailing members to change passwords as I expect everyone else has.
I have already said I don't have an s6 so I'm unsure why you are using this in a finger pointing exercise and I have already told you I get raid information from your alliance without the need of anyone accessing your site.
I can't comment on rainbows end of all of this as I know nothing of their intel other than discussion with genchaos.
Ultores and having leaks is nothing new they have a good 40 people with access to their tools including a few who help me out with info if I ask for it.
The same goes for ct, nd and norse. Finding out raid info has been a well known act for the entirety of pa except it's so small now you don't need your "brother" to join an ally to find this stuff out.
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3 Jul 2016, 20:22
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#315
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,740
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
I also thought the support planet rule didn't exist any more, but here it is:
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Well this rule is rarely used, if ever.
It basicly just says that you cant have your cousins sign up and stay out of tag to support you to win.
And i didnt say that Golan was falling under this rule either btw.
Golan admitted that had been sending fleets to 3:4 to support this creative tactic.
Euler has been sending fleets to help his former BP mate for unkown reasons.
Together they have potentialy donated 3million score to 3:4, and benneh.
Maybe it would too far claiming that Euler is a XP farm for his friends, but atleast Golan has admitted to being one(though disagreeing with my definition of the rules/being an XP farm).
To stop potential abuse, earlier before Ace and the PA team changed the evidence burden on the reports, 3:4 and people repeatively sending pods there 40,50,60(?) time during a round wouldve been closed.
Im sure many value planets like myself now considering how we can do a salvage farming scam. 10 decent fleet would put the #1 value planet ahead of Benneh if its done correct i suppose, and it would not be against the rules that PA crew is using this round in theory.
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3 Jul 2016, 20:26
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#316
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,740
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Once again. I think pretty much most of PA are ex ult ex bf ex ct ex bows ex p3ng ex newdawn etc I don't get why you are trying to link them back specifically to p3nguins when they have all been elsewhere.
As I have said you are the ones talking about passwords, not me. I reacted to the changes that pit made on github by mailing members to change passwords as I expect everyone else has.
I have already said I don't have an s6 so I'm unsure why you are using this in a finger pointing exercise and I have already told you I get raid information from your alliance without the need of anyone accessing your site.
I can't comment on rainbows end of all of this as I know nothing of their intel other than discussion with genchaos.
Ultores and having leaks is nothing new they have a good 40 people with access to their tools including a few who help me out with info if I ask for it.
The same goes for ct, nd and norse. Finding out raid info has been a well known act for the entirety of pa except it's so small now you don't need your "brother" to join an ally to find this stuff out.
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Afaik ChronoX story was that you PMed nelito the minute after targets had been released with the intel of it.
And from there they just checked who had been accessing the raid within that time period.
Thats just their story, you could just say it didnt happend as they explained it and it would be as trustworthy for me.
All i know is that ex p3nguins members had their password "hacked", and everyone had the same story.
The ip just accidently linked up with your location, and the people accidently linked up to your allie.
If it wasnt you, maybe it was someone else in your command/alliance doing it?
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3 Jul 2016, 20:46
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#317
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Afaik ChronoX story was that you PMed nelito the minute after targets had been released with the intel of it.
And from there they just checked who had been accessing the raid within that time period.
Thats just their story, you could just say it didnt happend as they explained it and it would be as trustworthy for me.
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Except I have a screenshot of the WhatsApp conversation with Nelito and another screenshot of the log that ChronoX obtained to track the IP, but you'll probably say that was photoshopped. That seems to be the favourable excuse on here.
I could provide if it's not against the forum rules.
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3 Jul 2016, 21:02
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#318
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Dictator
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
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Re: r67 who will win
You probably don't mean whatsapp.. as I don't use that to talk to nelito.
I have no problem with sharing my logs of chats with nelito belittling your coverage on raids and picking on small targets. If your members weren't so pissed with the targets maybe I wouldn't be given information so freely.
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3 Jul 2016, 21:21
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#319
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
You probably don't mean whatsapp.. as I don't use that to talk to nelito.
I have no problem with sharing my logs of chats with nelito belittling your coverage on raids and picking on small targets. If your members weren't so pissed with the targets maybe I wouldn't be given information so freely.
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So the Newcastle IP accessing varies other alliance webbies is what, a coincidence? Must be because you don't need to play dirty, you haz leaks!
And Black Flag was never playing hardcore this round, so I don't know what your problem is with how they play. Why do they need to get into fights when they don't have the activity to hold their ground this round? If memory serves me right, p3n bottom-fed and took advantage of others fighting for many rounds.
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4 Jul 2016, 04:20
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
Why aren't you banned YET?! You are repeatedly breaking forum rules.
They do not initiate roids for their friends, they are initiating roids for themselves. Doesn't matter who comes to try and steal them.
Not to mention that 90% + of the pa community knows each other to some extent now. Therefor most players should be banned for attacking friends. I'm sure you are no exception!
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I'll accept that people have a different view of what should be legal or not, but let's not pretend to be stupid here - they are not initiating up to 500-750 roids for themselves as even the 300th roid would take over a day to pay off, and after the first or second time it should be apparent.
In my opinion that is not legal, unfortunately for me I'm not in charge of enforcing the rules!
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4 Jul 2016, 05:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Patrikc
I'll accept that people have a different view of what should be legal or not, but let's not pretend to be stupid here - they are not initiating up to 500-750 roids for themselves as even the 300th roid would take over a day to pay off, and after the first or second time it should be apparent.
In my opinion that is not legal, unfortunately for me I'm not in charge of enforcing the rules!
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Example: Init 100 roids on top of 200, means you'll be on 300.
Out of those 300 you will only loose 25 of the roids initiated on first wave.
another 18 on 2nd, 14 on 3rd. So after 3 waves of loosing roids you've lost 57 roids of those 100 iniated. Usually means they repay much faster than most people are aware, and lost less than most people are aware of.
Even if you initiate on the purpose you claim it to be... The roids most likely repay themselves over and over.
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4 Jul 2016, 05:26
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Re: r67 who will win
If that were true, he (talking about #5 as he initiates the most) wouldn't be on 1mil value right now (300 roids would have given 900k value this far in the round). While you're right that of the roids you initiate you only lose a percentage, if he initiated up from 101 to 751 and gets roided down to 237 he may still have 136 of the 650 roids he initiated, but he would have had a lot more resources if he had simply gone to 300 at most, with likely fewer than 5 waves of incoming.
You can claim he couldn't have foreseen he would lose them all, or that the onus is on the MH to prove it (which would be true the first few times it happens), but you and I both know they're not that naive.
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4 Jul 2016, 08:42
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
Example: Init 100 roids on top of 200, means you'll be on 300.
Out of those 300 you will only loose 25 of the roids initiated on first wave.
another 18 on 2nd, 14 on 3rd. So after 3 waves of loosing roids you've lost 57 roids of those 100 iniated. Usually means they repay much faster than most people are aware, and lost less than most people are aware of.
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...And 116 of the ones you had, which you wouldn't have lost if you had stayed on 200.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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4 Jul 2016, 17:15
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Re: r67 who will win
Ahh good to see more people were F*cked by Munkee, already felt stupid to be the only one. He took my password as well, IP related to NewCastle: entering the IP idres in my browser gave a Linux server named MUNKEE!!
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4 Jul 2016, 17:47
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Location: Netherlands
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Re: r67 who will win
To be more precise, it's the web server that belongs to p3nguins. Going to the https page of that IP address shows the login page of p3nguins.
http://i.imgur.com/TxhEymk.png
It's probably a random person who happens to host a copy of the p3ng webby, it's not munkee I think...
edit: hmm, what's this?
(20:02:58) * munkee (~munkee@ cpc14-gate10-2-0-cust95.16-2.cable.virginm.net) Quit (Quit: bounced)
Look at the host of the IP lookup: http://i.imgur.com/YA4izdg.png
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4 Jul 2016, 19:19
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Dictator
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: r67 who will win
Great work sherlock!
If you had just told me the IP I could have confirmed it was our server for you. However it's shared and hosts a bouncer for quite a few people who dont want to use irc cloud on quake and usenet, as well as small business websites. I'll have to do my own investigations though about usage of our IP in the access logs.
Once again though I'm certain passwords aren't needed to view your raids.
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4 Jul 2016, 19:50
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Great work sherlock!
If you had just told me the IP I could have confirmed it was our server for you. However it's shared and hosts a bouncer for quite a few people who dont want to use irc cloud on quake and usenet, as well as small business websites. I'll have to do my own investigations though about usage of our IP in the access logs.
Once again though I'm certain passwords aren't needed to view your raids.
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You starting to sound like clouds now, after a number of bots got g-lined for sharing connection with their bot.
As i suggested earlier it can be another p3ng HC who is behind this.
So i fully expect you to come up with a name after your investigation is over.
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4 Jul 2016, 19:57
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
You starting to sound like clouds now, after a number of bots got g-lined for sharing connection with their bot.
As i suggested earlier it can be another p3ng HC who is behind this.
So i fully expect you to come up with a name after your investigation is over.
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I did mention to nelito I feel like this round hit a new low when you have bf hc investigating other people! The most interesting bit is their raids still leak from the same people they did before (hai jim). Scaremongering pa into thinking passwords are being used to gather information is great propaganda though hats off.
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4 Jul 2016, 20:05
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#329
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
I did mention to nelito I feel like this round hit a new low when you have bf hc investigating other people! The most interesting bit is their raids still leak from the same people they did before (hai jim). Scaremongering pa into thinking passwords are being used to gather information is great propaganda though hats off.
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Well without a doubt, they have been used to gather intel.
BF aint leading any investigation, ChronoX didnt think he could even find the IP of their breach, before looking closer.
Its by random luck that i ran into GuPPie saying he had been "hacked", wich led me to warn others, including ChronoX.
Im sure you will find the criminal wich abused p3ngs server, and remove him from p3ng, and tell the rest of us who it was.
Cus it obviously wasnt you.
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4 Jul 2016, 20:09
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Re: r67 who will win
Interested to hear more about the hack but maybe that's going off topic from who will win the round. I'll find you on tg. Intel is best shared via secret chat I'm told.
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4 Jul 2016, 21:05
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: r67 who will win
Their is not enough drama or activity these days to have multiple threads. So they should be named "Rxx everything".
Dont worry about "topics" as the moderator know this, and moderate accordingly.
I dont know about how/who/what/when happend with the passwords being cracked, all i have is IP and everyone elses story. And it's obvious that someone cracked em, and some used your server to login to various alliance tools.
Im more interested in the result of your investigation
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4 Jul 2016, 21:38
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#332
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Re: r67 who will win
I'm looking forward to it as well.
Weird though that my credentials were used to login to ULT Webby, using the IP from a linux server that has the name Munkee. As you admitted to own the server it shouldn't be that hard to find out who "framed" you?
Also the Ult webby shows that my credentials were used with the IP so even if it is possible to login without password it was used this time.
When do you expect to deliver results? Or yo already figured it was IS?
Edit: If you host a bouncer for so many other people playing PA, please show us some of the screens Munkee, your easy to hack server should have some logs! Or did the perpetrator delete them :O!
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4 Jul 2016, 22:27
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Dictator
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
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Re: r67 who will win
Meh there's a few dodgy access attempts going on including connections to our webby from tor bridge clients from a specific user. I'll be taking a good look tomorrow but I've closed these off.
Someone send me the user agent stuff from access.log if you have it sat around.
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4 Jul 2016, 22:34
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#334
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Meh there's a few dodgy access attempts going on including connections to our webby from tor bridge clients from a specific user. I'll be taking a good look tomorrow but I've closed these off.
Someone send me the user agent stuff from access.log if you have it sat around.
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Sounds hard finding out wich one of your many users entered bf, ults, and bows webs?
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4 Jul 2016, 22:40
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#335
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Dictator
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: r67 who will win
I don't see outgoing traffic I see incoming.
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4 Jul 2016, 22:44
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#336
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
I don't see outgoing traffic I see incoming.
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Well obviously incomming traffic from those webpages then.
They arnt sending/recieving traffic from your house if you cant see it
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4 Jul 2016, 22:59
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Great work sherlock!
If you had just told me the IP I could have confirmed it was our server for you. However it's shared and hosts a bouncer for quite a few people who dont want to use irc cloud on quake and usenet, as well as small business websites. I'll have to do my own investigations though about usage of our IP in the access logs.
Once again though I'm certain passwords aren't needed to view your raids.
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I remember once as a kid I snuck some cookies out of the jar when I wasn't allowed. My parents sat me down and asked me if I'd done it, I still had the crumbs on my shirt and yet I denied it, gave useless unrelated info, likely even blamed the dog for it.
Luckily I grew up and learned to take responsibility for my actions.
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4 Jul 2016, 23:08
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Bi-Winning
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: nfi
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Great work sherlock!
However it's shared and hosts a bouncer for quite a few people who dont want to use irc cloud on quake and usenet, as well as small business websites. I'll have to do my own investigations though about usage of our IP in the access logs.
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are you telling us anyone of your hosted clients or bouncer pals can masquerade as you?
not only does it seem odd people who are chilling on that awesome irc network usenet but also people hosting small business websites would be interested in logging into any PA tool, i mean where would that get them but potentially in trouble for no benefit of their own o_O
and for you to crosscheck the IP's in your webserver logs against known tor nodes before securing your own server from a potentially malicious user seems a bit suspect too, i mean the issue was somebody using your IP to login to other sites at which point did you decide the best place to find this information was to look through your webserver logs?
anyway i wouldn't host my website with you
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5 Jul 2016, 15:22
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Re: r67 who will win
Hi all!
Munkee stop lying pal.
bye.
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5 Jul 2016, 15:31
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#340
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Re: r67 who will win
This topic was 98% about benneh's curious path to win and munkee's pals who have and odd interest in PA alliances.
What a shit round.
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7 Jul 2016, 16:49
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Re: r67 who will win
Anyone know when was the last time where we were pretty certain about all three of;
Top ally (bows)
Top gal (8:7)
Top planet (Benneh)
A week before the end?
I look forward to someone upending expectations with massive xp landings or a hirr like lemming run!
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7 Jul 2016, 17:59
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#342
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by booji
Anyone know when was the last time where we were pretty certain about all three of;
Top ally (bows)
Top gal (8:7)
Top planet (Benneh)
A week before the end?
I look forward to someone upending expectations with massive xp landings or a hirr like lemming run!
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The most exciting thing comming up now is Munkees investigation results on who hacked all the user accounts of other alliances out there.
Have you heard anything about when he might be finish with it?
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7 Jul 2016, 18:25
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Re: r67 who will win
I hope he gives no information regarding that what so ever.
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7 Jul 2016, 18:42
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
I hope he gives no information regarding that what so ever.
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Yeah, you are one of those who want a criminal on the lose eh.
A few of those that got hacked want to press charges against the guy who did ive heard..
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7 Jul 2016, 18:48
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#345
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Yeah, you are one of those who want a criminal on the lose eh.
A few of those that got hacked want to press charges against the guy who did ive heard..
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wtf? No i do not want criminals on the loose.
And if they want to press charges, they should contact their local authority.
Not ask munkee for information. Stop acting like a clown
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7 Jul 2016, 18:52
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#346
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
wtf? No i do not want criminals on the loose.
And if they want to press charges, they should contact their local authority.
Not ask munkee for information. Stop acting like a clown
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Who said they would wait for information from munkey?
Even if they wanted to do anything about it, dosnt mean it will happend.
You just said you wanted munkee to protect "who ever" did it, instead of delivering the criminal to the angry mob.
Im sure there is no alliance out there who would ever accept "someone" who hacked his members user accounts in their alliance, so the community should be told who did it.
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7 Jul 2016, 19:01
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#347
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Who said they would wait for information from munkey?
Even if they wanted to do anything about it, dosnt mean it will happend.
You just said you wanted munkee to protect "who ever" did it, instead of delivering the criminal to the angry mob.
Im sure there is no alliance out there who would ever accept "someone" who hacked his members user accounts in their alliance, so the community should be told who did it.
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If they had security breaches, then they should report it to federal goverment. This isn't your case, I'm almost sure you are even close to breaking some laws by pretending you are a detective.
I did not say that munkee should protect who ever did it.
I said I hope he does not give out any information what so ever. (For all I know he might even not have any related to the matter)
And I wouldn't be suprised if you made up the interested in "pressing charges" part aswell.
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7 Jul 2016, 19:13
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#348
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: r67 who will win
Not really comfortable with all the allegations flying around. There are authorities to deal with this, and AD is hardly the place.
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7 Jul 2016, 19:13
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#349
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Re: r67 who will win
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Yeah, you are one of those who want a criminal on the lose eh.
A few of those that got hacked want to press charges against the guy who did ive heard..
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Sorry but lol.
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7 Jul 2016, 19:17
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#350
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Registered User
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Location: United Kingdom
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Re: r67 who will win
It's also quite 'suspicious' that when that IP address was typed into a web-browser, the results returned was a Linux server named 'pc-Munkee-Linux'. But it's ok, one of these small businesses are obviously trying to frame him seeing as Planetarion is such a big hit on the internet.
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