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Unread 30 Jul 2008, 15:39   #51
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All Systems Go: You clearly did not consider my previous replies because I've largely clarified (and corrected) many of the things you're questioning.
I have read most of what was said. I did not understand it so I read the original post. I also did not understand that.

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Do people not know how proper communication works? I have no idea what you're trying to say in a long post with a bunch of destructive questions.
I think you use too many words. The questions were questions, sometimes with a disagreement. But mainly questions. These were posted in the hope that answers were forthcoming.

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Understand: nobody is teaching here; learning comes from within. Please write in complete paragraphs and try to limit your questions to a few, so to help bridge our communication gap.
This isn't about learning. It's about understand what you are trying to say.

The questions are plentiful to facilitate shorter answers. A block of writing does not seem to be an approriate way of asking questions about something that is not clearly understood.

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The discussion came down to a fundamental difference in our scientific understanding as I explained in post #31. Do try to keep up.
Unfortunatly, that post was bollocks.

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The difference between us is that I don't assume to know even 1% about the nature of reality, whereas you (materialists) assume the nature of reality is all we can know. Let's focus on settling this distinction.
These aren't mutually exclusive viewpoints. In fact, I would say that outside of extreme circles (which may not actually exist) no-one with any sanity would claim we know more than a fraction of the materialistic world.

I'm not sure if you're implying that there is a world outside of the one we experience, but if there is hwo can we even begin to understand it?
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I'm not sure if you're implying that there is a world outside of the one we experience, but if there is hwo can we even begin to understand it?
I suspect that later on you may kick yourself for asking that.
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This is one of the most retarded things I've ever read in my life and shows you actually have barely any understanding of the concepts you mentioned.
A lot of my stuff is built on this concept in quantum mechanics. Why not try to enlighten us with your knowledge if you have the correct interpretation? I'm definitely not alone in my opinion, since a lot of experts recognize the same thing. To say it has no implications to other areas is retarded.

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This isn't about learning. It's about understand what you are trying to say.
How is that not learning? You need to first learn how to communicate with someone who thinks differently than you do. My purpose here is not to appease everyone with answers to their questions. If you're going to tear down what I wrote, I want you to at least give a better observation than what I gave. That's how these religion & science forums are supposed to work by being constructive. I was mostly making observations in my first post. You mistakenly thought I had some answer to everyone's problems, but I'm just trying to understand you as much as you're trying to understand me.
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You need to first learn how to communicate
I'm thinking you might want to follow your own advice. As a first step. No offence intended. Just trying to help.
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A lot of my stuff is built on this concept in quantum mechanics. Why not try to enlighten us with your knowledge if you have the correct interpretation? I'm definitely not alone in my opinion, since a lot of experts recognize the same thing. To say it has no implications to other areas is retarded.
If you are going to talk in subjective terms and then claim that it is built on quantum mechanics, then you have to expect some intellectual resistance.

There are, after all, plenty of people who actually know a great deal about quantum mechanics, and how it is applied. Perhaps the experts you mentioned are some of these people; you might wish to gain credibility by citing some of the papers in which they agree with you.

As far as I can see you have mentioned diddly-squat which has anything to do with modern physics. All you have talked about is what seems intuitive to you, and the follies of intuitive reasoning are why we have the scientific method.

Quantum mechanics is emphatically not an ill-defined magical term you can bandy about to justify your own musings on reality. Please don't insult our intelligence by using it as such.

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Re: G to the De-tox

Please ignore any insults to your intelligence because they're clearly unintentional. In regard to the context (my meaning), quantum mechanics is only the basis for statistical mechanics. I'd rather not go into the details here because this is supposed to be more of a spiritual discussion, not confined to the "scientific method". Nobody in GD seems to know what that means. If it's small talk to your ears (nb: I know I'm saying ears, and you don't have to question it's absurdity because it's just an expression, and what's not), why not just ignore me?

Here's an example of a spiritual concern in the news...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bobyrne117.xml

Now, I'm reserving judgment on whether or not she's telling her truth, but it does bring about interesting conversations. Of course, there have been thousands of testimonial accounts in history that have supposedly contacted the spirit world. But if you're not involved in spiritual matters, maybe you shouldn't be engaged in any of this discussion. The majority of people in the world engage in spirituality, I thought.
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Please ignore any insults to your intelligence because they're clearly unintentional. In regard to the context (my meaning), quantum mechanics is only the basis for statistical mechanics. I'd rather not go into the details here because this is supposed to be more of a spiritual discussion, not confined to the "scientific method". Nobody in GD seems to know what that means. If it's small talk to your ears (nb: I know I'm saying ears, and you don't have to question it's absurdity because it's just an expression, and what's not), why not just ignore me?

Here's an example of a spiritual concern in the news...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bobyrne117.xml

Now, I'm reserving judgment on whether or not she's telling her truth, but it does bring about interesting conversations. Of course, there have been thousands of testimonial accounts in history that have supposedly contacted the spirit world. But if you're not involved in spiritual matters, maybe you shouldn't be engaged in any of this discussion. The majority of people in the world engage in spirituality, I thought.
Ok. Right. Fine.

IF we are to indulge horn in this latest descent into insanity THEN could we at least have proper use of grammar?

It helps no one to see commas used as confetti. Even trying to read the posts (which I strongly suspect are generated by either a) utter insanity, or b) an automated web program) ought in fairness to at least be grammatically correct.
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Common gene version optimizes thinking -- but with a possible downside

Most people inherit a version of a gene that optimizes their brain's thinking circuitry, yet also appears to increase risk for schizophrenia, a severe mental illness marked by impaired thinking, scientists at the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) have discovered. The seeming paradox emerged from the first study to explore the effects of variation in the human gene for a brain master switch, DARPP-32.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-cgv020707.php

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It's the worst case of "comma cameleon" as seen on the internet for quite some time,,,
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Please ignore any insults to your intelligence because they're clearly unintentional. In regard to the context (my meaning), quantum mechanics is only the basis for statistical mechanics. I'd rather not go into the details here because this is supposed to be more of a spiritual discussion, not confined to the "scientific method". Nobody in GD seems to know what that means. If it's small talk to your ears (nb: I know I'm saying ears, and you don't have to question it's absurdity because it's just an expression, and what's not), why not just ignore me?

Here's an example of a spiritual concern in the news...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bobyrne117.xml

Now, I'm reserving judgment on whether or not she's telling her truth, but it does bring about interesting conversations. Of course, there have been thousands of testimonial accounts in history that have supposedly contacted the spirit world. But if you're not involved in spiritual matters, maybe you shouldn't be engaged in any of this discussion. The majority of people in the world engage in spirituality, I thought.
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Please ignore any insults to your intelligence because they're clearly unintentional. In regard to the context (my meaning), quantum mechanics is only the basis for statistical mechanics. I'd rather not go into the details here because this is supposed to be more of a spiritual discussion, not confined to the "scientific method". Nobody in GD seems to know what that means. If it's small talk to your ears (nb: I know I'm saying ears, and you don't have to question it's absurdity because it's just an expression, and what's not), why not just ignore me?
The problem with this is that you have, by stating that your discussion of spiritual matters is somewhat based in the realm of quantum mechanics, introduced an inconsistency into your own reasoning.

Obviously nobody expects you to discuss matters of spirituality in strict adherence to the scientific method. However, they might reasonably expect anything based on quantum mechanics to be commensurate with, and only with, the rational and/or mathematical predictions which that discipline makes.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bobyrne117.xml
Now, I'm reserving judgment on whether or not she's telling her truth, but it does bring about interesting conversations.
Conversations like "which is more likely? That this woman has woefully mis-identified the symptoms of a neurological disorder, or that she sees supernatural beings from the imagination"?

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Of course, there have been thousands of testimonial accounts in history that have supposedly contacted the spirit world. But if you're not involved in spiritual matters, maybe you shouldn't be engaged in any of this discussion.
"Agree or be quiet" negates the need for discussion really, doesn't it?

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Yes, and as nice as they are many of them wish to murder each other. Although it does rather depend on what sort of spirituality you are talking about, because it's a very vague term.
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How is that not learning
Because I'm yet to be convinced that your words have any meaning whatsoever. Whilst this is also learing in a technical sense, I think it does the word injustice to be used in this context.

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You need to first learn how to communicate with someone who thinks differently than you do.
Maybe you need to communicate with everyone else?

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My purpose here is not to appease everyone with answers to their questions.
We are qustioning what you have claimed. This is what a discussion forum does. It does not have to propose an alternative.

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If you're going to tear down what I wrote, I want you to at least give a better observation than what I gave.
I have to give nothing. You have made some large claims. IF they do not stand up to some simple questions then I would suggest you seriously rethink your claims.

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That's how these religion & science forums are supposed to work by being constructive. I was mostly making observations in my first post. You mistakenly thought I had some answer to everyone's problems, but I'm just trying to understand you as much as you're trying to understand me.
The truth is not one person on this forum has even the foggiest idea of what you are trying to say. Not one person. How therefore do you expect people to be constructive? If you set out your post in a digestable manner, then perhaps something more constructive could be provided.

You provided a thesis of the universe. I would call that an answer, of sorts. If you can't defend it or explain it clearly then that's hardly the fault of everyone else on this board.*

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Here's an example of a spiritual concern in the news...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bobyrne117.xml

Now, I'm reserving judgment on whether or not she's telling her truth, but it does bring about interesting conversations. Of course, there have been thousands of testimonial accounts in history that have supposedly contacted the spirit world.
There have been thousands of documented cases of people claiming to be the new Messiah. We call these people insane and lock them up. Why don't we do it with people like this? **** knows.
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GD won? Is this a first?
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this guy has produced the most interesting thread for the past 10 pages. bearing in mind those 10 pages probably span the last 2 years, you probably shouldn't ban him.
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It didn't exactly help that you managed to get Kal to delete all your posts and threads.
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what are you talking about furball? horn's threads were never interesting...
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His points were retarded gibberish I'd be horrified to have on GD. Sure he mentioned a number of interesting topics but he had nothing interesting, relevant, correct or meaningful to say on most of them. Let's at least have some intellectual respectability in our cynicism.
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He'll come back.

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They mostly come at night.

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His points were retarded gibberish I'd be horrified to have on GD. Sure he mentioned a number of interesting topics but he had nothing interesting, relevant, correct or meaningful to say on most of them. Let's at least have some intellectual respectability in our cynicism.
the fact he's at least interested in the topics, or even at least holds them in some form of esteem is a good start. after the initial realisation that people aren't blown over by the use of undergraduate philosophical terminology he'll probably settle down and try to produce more meaningful points. if you don't ban him.
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Bar yahwe nobody really said anything about banning him...

The point isn't really that he's using a load of, variously, inappropriate or unnecessarily verbose words but rather that his posts are devoid of anything remotely intelligible. It's like reading the post-modern essay generator to be honest.

Hilariously I've misused the word verbose there as I forgot to say "words and phrases". Well, not hilariously, but I certainly appreciated the irony.
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Bar yahwe nobody really said anything about banning him...
that's right johnny. no one said a word. you just temp banned him without discussing it. maybe you should die.

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Hilariously I've misused the word verbose there as I forgot to say "words and phrases". Well, not hilariously, but I certainly appreciated the irony.
i didn't appreciate it fyi.
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i was joking. were you? maybe not. maybe you were. looking forward to your reply.
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i was joking. were you? maybe not. maybe you were. looking forward to your reply.
I find that highly unlikely.
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I find that highly unlikely.
you find what highly unlikely?
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you find what highly unlikely?
Indeed.
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nice attempt at random humour jbg. shame your stunted understanding of the quantum dichotomy between the polarities of logic serve only to highlight a missing foundation on which you are offered license on which to toy with such meta, such.... post ironics. please do not attempt to make jokes in your regressive 3D box. only you have the key to unlock yourself...
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' 'BOUT
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****ING LAUGH RIOT UP IN THIS PIECE. CAN SOEONE GET THE DOGS BAK ONT HE MOTHERFUJKCKIN LEASH!!? XD ^^
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the fact he's at least interested in the topics, or even at least holds them in some form of esteem is a good start. after the initial realisation that people aren't blown over by the use of undergraduate philosophical terminology he'll probably settle down and try to produce more meaningful points. if you don't ban him.
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They do in the United States.
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ban horn and allow prover

it;s sort of redressing the balance
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aliens dont exist you faggot
well actually it's funny you should sya that becausefskljlkvjs ;k;gjkrgkm www.youtube.com e;j OIL!! www.digg.com the burden of proof is not applicable here! aliens are peoepl too! slhgr;jg rsrgihjshr because they don't want to hrt us we are all machines anyway!! aliens.




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ban horn and allow prover

it;s sort of redressing the balance
It's not too much of a suprise you'd rather ban the guy than give him time to evolve his posting given that your own experience has been to remain on a below sea level plateau since you began lol owned bye!
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It's not too much of a suprise you'd rather ban the guy than give him time to evolve his posting given that your own experience has been to remain on a below sea level plateau since you began lol owned bye!
I believe in banning gimmicks.
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I believe in banning gimmicks.
good thing you're posting isn't one long, overwrought god complex gimmick then
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