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Makain · 9 Dec 2002, 16:54

Job Description: Mapping out the formation of major and mid-sized alliances from Round One to present. Taking into account mergers, break-aways, wars, and powerblocks. Must site sources of information.

Requirements: Must have participated in the PA community from Round One.

Job Openings: Two

*Please apply in this thread so I can check your Forum Account, HC's need not apply*

Mtyd · 9 Dec 2002, 17:01

/me asks:

WHY????????

Makain · 9 Dec 2002, 17:09

Mainly because I would like to understand how the current situation came to be with more clarity so I can feel worth more in such conversations. Besides its a good thing to have for the Planetarion community, I'll post it on a web site and it can be used as a reference. With each piece of information cited, no one can muck things up. Sure it will get hazier, the farther back we go, but we don't want the alliances of old to fade from memory. First it will only be a chart of alliances and there wars, but then we'll expand on leaders and big names who helped shaped the community into what it is today.

Vaio · 9 Dec 2002, 17:14

Me

Vaio

Galaxian · 9 Dec 2002, 17:16

I think you're greatest difficulty will be not in collecting the information, but in deciding which version of events is nearer the truth, as you are bound to get conflicting versions, especially the farther back in time you go.

But still a noble and useful project. Good luck. You will need it in spades...

Obfuscator · 9 Dec 2002, 17:18

I tried doing this once in r6, when I was bored in class. Got a decent start, then got bored, and couldn't name all the smaller alliances anyway. It's a tough job, that's for sure.

Makain · 9 Dec 2002, 17:24

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Originally posted by Obfuscator
I tried doing this once in r6, when I was bored in class. Got a decent start, then got bored, and couldn't name all the smaller alliances anyway. It's a tough job, that's for sure.

I am trying to avoid any of the smaller alliances that didn't have an impact on the community or round out-comes. I hope that helps limit the difficulties in identifying all the alliances in the first place.

Axis_WLF · 9 Dec 2002, 18:04

Most of the replies on this board seem to consist of talks from previous rounds. So keep an eye on normal posting and you will find alliance history etc.

Makain · 9 Dec 2002, 19:11

Forming a history of Planetarion is critical since PA is now moving into new ownership and the possibility of a large influx of newbies. With new people a page where you could bring up and study the history of PA would be essential in bringing them up to date with the current situation.

Tron · 10 Dec 2002, 11:16

Wasn't there a thread by Obfuscator or the like that sort of did this? I liked that thread. Ask Killmark for hosting.

Galadrieth · 10 Dec 2002, 17:29

Ill help all i can, been around since Round 1, however ,my board account has only been here since Rnd 2, was a different nick b4 that.Anyways ill help ya as much as i can.

Someone who might be better fitted for the job that i can think of is Torz though, hes allways managed to be actually involved in every rounds major incidents, from WaC to Vts, Vts to Wolfpack etc etc
In other words hes a nosey little begger, ask him!

GavGull · 10 Dec 2002, 22:10

You'll need to have more than two, for objectivity at least.

And keep it concise.

Makain · 10 Dec 2002, 23:42

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Originally posted by GavGull
You'll need to have more than two, for objectivity at least.

And keep it concise.

Not many volunteers. I am going to start charting out Round One this week, it shouldn't take too long, but I think Round Two is going to be nasty.

laputa · 11 Dec 2002, 00:06

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Originally posted by Makain

Not many volunteers.

It takes longer for ppl to read the boards than 24 hours - especially now that pa is over and many lost interest. I am not even sure if ppl who could help you a lot like Chax, Grim and Sastul for Xanadu are still reading the boards.

Shiva · 11 Dec 2002, 12:35

there was a sticky thread here on AD for quite some time containing all alliance histories, dunno if one saved it on his hd.

i wrote the xanadu history for round 5+ (scorpio did for round 3,4), should have that laying around somewhere, feel free to pm me and ill dcc it to you

Scorpio · 11 Dec 2002, 13:19

http://home.student.utwente.nl/d.kos...du-history.doc

That one I believe

Includes Virus history upto middle round 3 (when Xanadu was re-founded)

Jurgen · 11 Dec 2002, 13:44

If I'm around and worthy I could give a try. Been around since r1 and know stuff about summit... Mostly my intel is R5+ thoz, but I know the legends ;-) (also those that r true and false).

(Jurgen newb forever)

Neo · 11 Dec 2002, 14:03

Been around since r1, but most of my alliance knowledge except perhaps r4, is based upon rumors from friends/AD...etc. So I think there's better volunteers out there.

My money would be on getting people that has been playing multiple alliances simultaneously (Spies) to get the best objective view. Then ofc people in Higher Command position usually have a good clue about what's going on (Altho they rarely post/say what they _really_ know

). With only two volunteers you won't get a good history report ...

DarkAngel · 11 Dec 2002, 14:53

not meaning to moan but ...

Requirement: played since round 1

that isnt to smart, number of reasons mainly

1) a **** load of alliances were formed after round 1, so it doesnt matter

2) have u played since r1? i seriously doubt it ...

Galaxian · 11 Dec 2002, 16:09

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Originally posted by DarkAngel
not meaning to moan but ...

Requirement: played since round 1

that isnt to smart, number of reasons mainly

1) a **** load of alliances were formed after round 1, so it doesnt matter

2) have u played since r1? i seriously doubt it ...

Well I've been here since about 1 month into round 1, and played every round ever since. ;-p

BUT, what I can remember about the early rounds politics-wise can be written on a match stick.

Makain · 11 Dec 2002, 16:35

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Originally posted by DarkAngel
not meaning to moan but ...

Requirement: played since round 1

that isnt to smart, number of reasons mainly

1) a **** load of alliances were formed after round 1, so it doesnt matter

2) have u played since r1? i seriously doubt it ...

1) I send a much more detailed questionaire as Vaio can attest to.

2) If I was here from Round 1 I wouldn't have to find other people now would I?

Azaghal · 11 Dec 2002, 17:52

I tried this in earlier rounds ("PA history book"), but dropped the idea because I didn't have the time... -> you will probably need more than 2 people...

bringing objective views on events won't be easy, as a lot of people are gone now (PA quit -> people gone).

I'd say launch some big flashy announcement asking for data from earlier rounds... some people (like I had the habit of doing) kept all stuff organised, like dumping all PA stuff in 1 folder, and still have stuff from earlier rounds. And then go chat on IRC with important people and quote them on events etc

... not saying you didn't think of this, just how I'd do it

And imo, if you're going to do it, do it good, and not just stick to the big lines...

DarkAngel · 11 Dec 2002, 17:52

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Originally posted by Makain

1) I send a much more detailed questionaire as Vaio can attest to.

2) If I was here from Round 1 I wouldn't have to find other people now would I?

you missed my point entirely :/

im saying someone from r1 might not know as much about a particular alliance as somone directly involved in it who started r3, so why have the requirement? also it would be fair to assume not one person (even if they have been here from r1) would know the in's and outs of every alliance, as simply in every war they r multiple sides .. and while your guy on one side may know his ****ory it is unlikely he would know exactly what was happening in the enemy camp ...

this wasn't meant as a flame .. even though i admit that we far from see eye to eye , it was more a piece of advice .. as if this is done id like 2 c it done well, might make compelling reading .. who knows.

Obfuscator · 11 Dec 2002, 19:02

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Originally posted by DarkAngel

you missed my point entirely :/

im saying someone from r1 might not know as much about a particular alliance as somone directly involved in it who started r3, so why have the requirement? also it would be fair to assume not one person (even if they have been here from r1) would know the in's and outs of every alliance, as simply in every war they r multiple sides .. and while your guy on one side may know his ****ory it is unlikely he would know exactly what was happening in the enemy camp ...

this wasn't meant as a flame .. even though i admit that we far from see eye to eye , it was more a piece of advice .. as if this is done id like 2 c it done well, might make compelling reading .. who knows.

You missed his point entirely. He wants 2 vets not to document everything THEY remember, but to garner all the information they can about all the significant alliances, from r1 to now. In other words, he wants them to do RESEARCH, and to actually question various alliance leaders and vets, and compose an impartial history. The reason, quite simply, to use r1 vets is that they have a better chance of remembering which alliances have been significant throughout the rounds, and have a better chance of having the necessary contacts to carry the job out. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here Makain.

DarkAngel · 11 Dec 2002, 19:27

i stand corrected.

though someone who played r3 had just as much chance of rememebring alliances since r3 then someone from r1 ..

plus its a hell of alot of work for 2 ppl .. heh

Makain · 11 Dec 2002, 22:56

It was just a misunderstanding. Being relativeltly new I dont have the same connections as someone who was say from Round One. I would be happy to bring in people from Round Three or Four too, especially if they were in a major alliance and could interview their HCs. First I need the information, then I can start compiling it.