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7 Oct 2016, 21:56
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Knightly Protector
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Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Welcome to Round 69 - Shattered Time Fri, 07 Oct 16:01:08
Welcome, all, to Round 69 - Shattered Time!
As before:
Buddy Packs are limited to 4 (or 3 and a late joiner in tick 336) - this must be done before the shuffle on the morning of Saturday, 15th October.
Alliances are limited to 60, with only 40 counting.
Races and ship stats are FINAL.
Major changes:
Alliance Defense fleets can only be shared 30 times in a 24 hour period (excluding cancelled fleets).
Alliance wars are now more profitable, with your primary target alliance generating 25% more XP from combat and all the target's allied alliances generating 15% more XP from combat (was 20% and 10%)
Pods can now not be stolen through covert opping
Dist counts are now available in intel and populated based on the latest dev scan or failed scan - this is not editable.
For a list of other changes, please visit our changelog.
Best of luck this round!
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So does anyone else besides me feel like we got sucker punched? Seems the powers that be make changes and we, or maybe its just me, find out about it by signing up and not before hand. I realize that the community is not the best at coming up with a good consensus and there is a lot of baggage between community members, but it would be nice to be informed of changes ahead of time.
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7 Oct 2016, 21:58
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
BAH
posted in wrong forum again, if a mod wants to move it go for it....my fingers dont want to cooperate atm
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7 Oct 2016, 22:18
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mz.
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Why would we need to be consulted beforehand?
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7 Oct 2016, 23:59
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Probably someone was convinced that there was too much cheating among ship cov opers. My suggestion for next rounds stats, if there is a ship that can be a form a good team-up with another race, give it a pod.
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9 Oct 2016, 01:22
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
There should be an option to steal only a certain class and only pods through cov oping
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8 Oct 2016, 22:40
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Why would we need to be consulted beforehand?
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Well maybe not consult but how about informing beforehand. There are several changes which do change how people will play the game. Not saying they are bad, but getting a heads up would be nice.
I am not sure if I like the alliance fleet limitation in conjugation with the alliance limit being 60 with 40 counting. The alliance fleet did make it nice for smaller less active alliances who now have a better chance of defending vs incomings at bad times. But now that they are limited to only 30 launches in a 24 hour period the bigger and/or more organized alliances will be able to drain alliance fleets quicker.
Making war more profitable is always good and the cov op change will help combat farm planets (hopefully). Or at least make it more obvious so hunters can now close planets easier.
@BButcher
Kindly go away. You always post things and try to derail the original post/topic with whatever axe you have to grind coming from that imaginary brain of yours.
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8 Oct 2016, 23:35
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Pre-launch bug also fixed.
Alliance fleets adjustment is ok, let's see if something changes.
I thought there would be whining about the cov op change. It clear states that cov op is not to be used for fleet adjustment. I think there should be an alternative, like being able to select an extra pod before tick starts.
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9 Oct 2016, 12:01
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mz.
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by RexDrax
Well maybe not consult but how about informing beforehand. There are several changes which do change how people will play the game. Not saying they are bad, but getting a heads up would be nice.
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The mail was sent when signups opened. That gives us a week to digest the information. I think that's enough time for a game like PA and a community like ours. Opening of signups is the deadline, and that deadline needs to be met. If the mail had been sent (or if changes from last round had been updated) a day or two later, I would've agreed with you.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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9 Oct 2016, 11:36
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BlueTuba
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Thread's been moderated, please stay on topic.
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9 Oct 2016, 20:58
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by lokken
Thread's been moderated, please stay on topic.
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What is the topic?
Seeing the change mz/benneh brought upon PA, the ship cov-op was a natural change after last round?
Im pretty sure that soon we will have to remove steal ships and roid stealing, as removing ship covopping wont be sufficient.
RexDrax obviously aint paying much attention if he feels that the changes hasnt been alerted for quite some time.
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10 Oct 2016, 09:30
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Valle is my hero
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
What is the topic?
Seeing the change mz/benneh brought upon PA, the ship cov-op was a natural change after last round?
Im pretty sure that soon we will have to remove steal ships and roid stealing, as removing ship covopping wont be sufficient.
RexDrax obviously aint paying much attention if he feels that the changes hasnt been alerted for quite some time.
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Please provide a forum link to the announced change or before and after screenshots of the rule changes. I can't find any official changes anywhere regarding this. Thanks in advance
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10 Oct 2016, 18:02
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Please provide a forum link to the announced change or before and after screenshots of the rule changes. I can't find any official changes anywhere regarding this. Thanks in advance
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If you are in doubt go ask in #multihunters.
In the past, prior to mz/benneh paid of Ace i guess, you would get closed if you built only pods to be covop/stolen or if you initiated roids only to get stolen.
This was practised, even though the rules mightve been claiming that it had to be an agreement between attacker/covopper and the farm, wich you cant prove ever unless it was agreed upon through ingame mail.
The rules/practise was changed to suit Mz/Bennehs strat, norse simply abused this to covop CO pods for free last round.
Or maybe you think pod covopping was randomly removed for this round?
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11 Oct 2016, 05:27
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Valle is my hero
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
If you are in doubt go ask in #multihunters.
In the past, prior to mz/benneh paid of Ace i guess, you would get closed if you built only pods to be covop/stolen or if you initiated roids only to get stolen.
This was practised, even though the rules mightve been claiming that it had to be an agreement between attacker/covopper and the farm, wich you cant prove ever unless it was agreed upon through ingame mail.
The rules/practise was changed to suit Mz/Bennehs strat, norse simply abused this to covop CO pods for free last round.
Or maybe you think pod covopping was randomly removed for this round?
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So basically no then. Didn't think so, ever heard of 'The Boy who cried Wolf'?
If you keep making things up then no one is gonna believe you when you have a genuine issue.
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11 Oct 2016, 22:22
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BlueTuba
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
If you are in doubt go ask in #multihunters.
In the past, prior to mz/benneh paid of Ace i guess, you would get closed if you built only pods to be covop/stolen or if you initiated roids only to get stolen.
This was practised, even though the rules mightve been claiming that it had to be an agreement between attacker/covopper and the farm, wich you cant prove ever unless it was agreed upon through ingame mail.
The rules/practise was changed to suit Mz/Bennehs strat, norse simply abused this to covop CO pods for free last round.
Or maybe you think pod covopping was randomly removed for this round?
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What evidence have you got of this?
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11 Oct 2016, 07:53
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
You are free to belive what you want.
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11 Oct 2016, 07:57
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Valle is my hero
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
You are free to belive what you want.
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Correct, but you aren't free to slander and besmirch people's names at will. It has consequences.
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11 Oct 2016, 08:04
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Correct, but you aren't free to slander and besmirch people's names at will. It has consequences.
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Who is being besmirched?
Mz/Benneh is not denying what they did, neither is Norse
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11 Oct 2016, 08:17
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Valle is my hero
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Who is being besmirched?
Mz/Benneh is not denying what they did, neither is Norse
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Oh sorry do we live in a world where you are guilty until proven innocent?
I think not.
When you actually have proof they are guilty of something then present it along with your accusation. Until then you are slandering them and are the one in the wrong.
Constantly accusing and abusing individuals on here is a bannable offence I believe. Maybe a mod should look into that
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11 Oct 2016, 08:30
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
Oh sorry do we live in a world where you are guilty until proven innocent?
I think not.
When you actually have proof they are guilty of something then present it along with your accusation. Until then you are slandering them and are the one in the wrong.
Constantly accusing and abusing individuals on here is a bannable offence I believe. Maybe a mod should look into that
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Nobody is did anything that was illegale, so i have no clue what you are on about.
The rules were changed, after r67 you cant get closed for being a farm, unless the MH proves there is an agreement(only ingame mail confession/agreement mail is valud evidence)
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11 Oct 2016, 12:37
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Valle is my hero
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Butcher just likes to skew the rules to justify his round on round inadequacies and his alliance (bows) allows him to make them look like fools. Says a lot about the competence there.
It has never been frowned upon to init roids. Intact it's been a staple of fort play as long as I have been here. The issue is init WHEN you have incommings, which gives the attacker extra roids. This is not allowed and is a closable offence. Benneh et al didn't do this, which is why they weren't closed. There is nothing in the rules that says you have to defend your incommings, nor that you have to send a certain amount of ships/value when defending. So again no rule broken there.
Advertising you aren't going to defend via your gal or r/p name is very much a grey area as names and slogans can be interpreted differently. That is solely up to the MH to decide, which they did, and the names stayed. That's all there is to it. End of.
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11 Oct 2016, 17:06
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Well this is where you might not be up to scratch with what is actualy happening ingame, and perhaps behind "closed" doors.
The changes to cov-op was more or less "set in stone" once people started to use the same approach to the rules as Benneh/Mz regarding setting up "pod farms".
It is not against the rules, what so ever, to build pods and not log in for the next week, and then suddently half the univers had cov-opped all your pods while you was away.
Unless you can prove there is a agreement between part A and part B, you cannot ever get closed for farming after the Benneh/Mz incident.
Are you surprised that pod cov-opping was removed now as theyve allowed farming to take place?
If you are this out-of-sync with what is actualy happening around in the univers, perhaps it would be better to just stay away from bothering your mind with what ever changes PA crew does each round?
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11 Oct 2016, 23:56
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Nobody can post logs, and apparently PA Team aren't going to comment.
Seems pretty pointless to continue this then doesn't it?
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12 Oct 2016, 00:24
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Or we can continue ranting untill PA team starts commenting
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12 Oct 2016, 00:32
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Re: Round 69 PA mail from PA HQ
Well yeah I suppose there is that.
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