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Unread 1 Feb 2004, 16:49   #1
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Idiotic question about file formats

Any way to easily change between mpg and avi files? Or suggestions for making mpg's smaller.
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Any way to easily change ...
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Re: Idiotic question about file formats

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'ren movie.mpg movie.avi'
believe it or not, but this won't work!!!
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Re: Idiotic question about file formats

Tried a couple of programs, but they were one-way, avi --> something. If theres no easy way, how do i go about achieving this reduction in size?
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If you're able answer this question perfectly, you'll be a rich man!
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Re: Idiotic question about file formats

Seriously now: AVI is not a real format, it's a container, i.e. it contains audio and video streams of different formats. You can convert them (not change), if you want to.
You need to choose codecs and configure them wisely, to preserve quality (or just deteriorate slightly) and to reduce size.
For video I'd suggest DivX or Xvid using 2pass encoding and VBR. Might as well use MPEG2 (SVCD compatible).
Audio usually goes well with MP3 (VBR if you want) or Ogg Vorbis...
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Programs worth getting (IMO):
  • VirtualDub (with AVISynth, e.g. for MPEG loading) - Can convert avi-streams to any format you want, using the installed codecs. Nice piece of software indeed. Use this for any AVI you want to write
  • TMPGenc - MPEG encoder, to produce VCD and SVCD compatible files... Works fine as well

Note: You should be a bit "advanced" to use this programs
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Re: Idiotic question about file formats

Well, thanks for your help, but im a ****ing idiot, so i'll just get round to installing my DVD+/- Rewriter and shove them on a couple of Rewritable disks. (Presuming thats possible, otherwise ive wasted £90 odds)
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Re: Idiotic question about file formats

I have movie files that are about 220MB in size, and .mpg in format. I have similar movie files of the same length and no discernable difference in quality (there probably is but im not fussy) that are as small as 40-60MB. I wondered if i could reduce the size of the movie files.
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Oh, so you have downloaded TV episodes?
K, my guess: The .mpg Files are MPEG1-Stream, and Video-CD ready. If you put them through your CD-Writer, and if you are careful enough about the format, you have created a proper VCD. Which should be playable by your standalone DVD player (if it doesn't suck).

The .avi files are probably TV episodes as well, but DivX or whatever. They're smaller, YES, but IMO: Quality is worse. Especially for cartoons (hello Futurama and Family Guy).

And you should enjoy having the files on VCDs.
You can have simple menus and you don't have as many codec problems...

Really, IMO the 220mb files should be FAR better than the 60mb version [/2cent]
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Oh, so you have downloaded TV episodes?
K, my guess: The .mpg Files are MPEG1-Stream, and Video-CD ready. If you put them through your CD-Writer, and if you are careful enough about the format, you have created a proper VCD. Which should be playable by your standalone DVD player (if it doesn't suck).

The .avi files are probably TV episodes as well, but DivX or whatever. They're smaller, YES, but IMO: Quality is worse. Especially for cartoons (hello Futurama and Family Guy).

And you should enjoy having the files on VCDs.
You can have simple menus and you don't have as many codec problems...

Really, IMO the 220mb files should be FAR better than the 60mb version [/2cent]
Its a shitload of Family Guys.

Thing is dude, i dont have a standalone DVD player. Ive downloaded these for my viewing pleasure for when i go back to stirling (although ill have the internet i wont have P2P capabilities). While there may be a loss in quality, as a student who is stealing these to sit in a room with smelly students and watch them, i am not overly bothered . What i am bothered about is my diminishing space.

I dont know much about DVD writing, is it possible just to use 4.3GB DVD disks to store files on much like a CD-R ?
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I'd suggest just to get the "Family Guy DVD Compendium", due out end of February, around 100ish Euros. I pre-ordered it . 3 Seasons, ~50 episodes apparently.
That'll probably be less or about as much as you spent on that DVD-writer
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