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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 00:09   #1
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Michael Moore - Oscar Winner
Hes cheered , hes booed , hes political , hes satirical.

And now he has an oscar, his voice will be heard a little louder.
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 00:11   #2
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I thought he came across as a drunken old man tbh
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I thought he came across as a drunken old man tbh
A drunken old man with a political message.

And an Oscar
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 00:17   #4
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ive always wondered if anyone has used an oscar as a sex toy, im sure they have. It might haveto be warmed up to body temperature and might need some KY, but i think its possible. Also did you know (i didnt) that the oscar actually remains property of the academy!!! its not yours they like lend it to you.
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I am actually getting very fed up with ppl shouting about it being a war no-one wants.
I am very pro-war, but if i took 1 million ppl onto the street to call for war against a nation, I would be arrested, so instead we have to listen to all this 'not in our name' crap.
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 00:39   #6
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they should rename Oscar to "Kura"

and the winner of the Kura for best film is..............
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Forest,

Maybe you're just being arrested for those ugly boots. Anyways if you're just arrested for taking 1 million people into a pro-war protest (is it still a protest if your agreeing with the gov't?) then consider yourself lucky. Or have we forgotten the events at Kent State, and the Chicago Democratic convention? Demonstrators are picked on no matter what the position so stop acting like such a martyr.
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A drunken old man with a political message.

And an Oscar
Does an Oscar validate anyone's political message(s)? And if so, why doesn't it apply to Charlton Heston?
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Maybe you're just being arrested for those ugly boots. Anyways if you're just arrested for taking 1 million people into a pro-war protest (is it still a protest if your agreeing with the gov't?) then consider yourself lucky. Or have we forgotten the events at Kent State, and the Chicago Democratic convention? Demonstrators are picked on no matter what the position so stop acting like such a martyr.
Thats more like the unfriendly attitude we all know and love......
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Unread 25 Mar 2003, 08:45   #11
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I hope there are more not-braindead U.S. citizens like Michael Moore out there. He was the one that gave me faith back not all W.A.S.P. are stupid white men.
And winning the OSCAR looks like he is not alone. Thank God for this.
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I am very pro-war, but if i took 1 million ppl onto the street to call for war against a nation, I would be arrested, so instead we have to listen to all this 'not in our name' crap.
This is typical conservative drivel. A bizarre conception of the state secretly being against them.

"If I have a protest in-favour of government action, the government is bound to arrest me!"

Logic +5!

If you can't be arsed to demonstrate then fair enough, but pretending to be frightened of being arrested is stupid.

Also, an Oscar validates no-ones political message, but it does make one slight more heard. Heston may be a fool, but at least a lot of people know of his political stance.
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This is typical conservative drivel. A bizarre conception of the state secretly being against them.

Yeah, really. What the hell is up with that? They talk of the liberal agenda, the liberal end-games and the liberal illuminati like these are real and present dangers to their way of life.
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Maybe he just meant that those opposed to war have more of a voice, since they are arguing against the government. Those with the governement were much less likely to campaign, since they already agreed.

Banners like "bomb Iraq" would also look quite racist, and the pro-war arguments wouldn't fit on a small banner.
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There was a pro-war demonstration on Times Square in New York on sunday. Only 2000 people showed up. The day before there had been an anti-war demonstration in Manhattan that drew 150 000 people(organisers claimed 250 000).

Both demonstrators and police were surprised at the low turn-out. Apparently it was attributed to New York being full of whiny liberals and communist sympathisers who hate the United States.

It is ironic that the september 11 hijackers aimed their attack on New York, the only beacon of intelligence in the United States.
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Maybe he just meant that those opposed to war have more of a voice, since they are arguing against the government. Those with the governement were much less likely to campaign, since they already agreed.

Banners like "bomb Iraq" would also look quite racist, and the pro-war arguments wouldn't fit on a small banner.
"stop terrorism"
"disarm iraq"
"free the iraqis"
"hide the economy"
"out with rape rooms!"
"kill with big booms!!!!"

i'm not sure which of these wouldn't fit on a banner. maybe you should be getting bigger banners.
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Hes cheered , hes booed , hes political , hes satirical.

And now he has an oscar, his voice will be heard a little louder.
yeah right, just like the other oscar winners hoffman and sarandon.
His voice will be heard allright.
Fortunately, he will be laughed at .
Just like those other hollywood wimps!!!
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I hope there are more not-braindead U.S. citizens like Michael Moore out there. He was the one that gave me faith back not all W.A.S.P. are stupid white men.
And winning the OSCAR looks like he is not alone. Thank God for this.
Those braindead US citizens you are referring to, are the people who make the USA the greatest country in the history of mankind.
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"stop terrorism"
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"free the iraqis"
"hide the economy"
"out with rape rooms!"
"kill with big booms!!!!"

i'm not sure which of these wouldn't fit on a banner. maybe you should be getting bigger banners.
Heh

But I don't get the rape room one
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Those braindead US citizens you are referring to, are the people who make the USA the greatest country in the history of mankind.
France is the greatest country in the history of mankind. You only have to ask the right persons.
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Those braindead US citizens you are referring to, are the people who make the USA the greatest country in the history of mankind.
when you die I hope it is something acid-related.

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Heh

But I don't get the rape room one
The latest propaganda from the WH is that Saddam has rape rooms where prisoners are raped repeatedly.

In the US we have those too though, and we call them "our prison system":/
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ignoring the first part, what do you mean by the second part?
I hope you mean the great man and visionar.
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ignoring the first part, what do you mean by the second part?
I hope you mean the great man and visionar.
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His voice will be heard allright.
Fortunately, he will be laughed at .
Just like those other hollywood wimps!!!
Putting Moore in the same category as Adrian Brodie is ridiculous

Brodies speech was quite moving. He actually meant what he was saying.
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Hes cheered , hes booed , hes political , hes satirical.

And now he has an oscar, his voice will be heard a little louder.
To bad his documentory wasn't a documentary but a political propaganda story twisted to his view point.
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Putting Moore in the same category as Adrian Brodie is ridiculous

Brodies speech was quite moving. He actually meant what he was saying.
I think it's pretty safe to assume Michael Moore meant what he said too. Or do you think it's a big act?

You may think he's an idiot (fair dues), but I don't see any evidence that he doesn't believe what he says.
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To bad his documentory wasn't a documentary but a political propaganda story twisted to his view point.
Would you be saying that "Roger and I" was also a political propaganda twisted to his own viewpoint?
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I think it's pretty safe to assume Michael Moore meant what he said too. Or do you think it's a big act?

You may think he's an idiot (fair dues), but I don't see any evidence that he doesn't believe what he says.
I think hes ignorant. I get the feeling he would be opposing this war regardless. I also get the feeling just from the way he acted, that his speech was 100% manufactured, planned, reviewed, and pandered to part of popular opinion.

On the other hand, i actually felt moved by Adrian Brodie's speech, because he spoke really well, under pressure, about sensitive issues etc. It will be a long time till i forget him saying "wait, hold on,i only ever get one shot at this" when some ****nuckle turned the oscar music on to try and get him off stage.

Side note : After watching Brodie's speech, to see Nicole kidman crying for oscar related reasons was SICKENING.
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I think hes ignorant.
That's fair enough as I say, but even if he did review/rewrite his speech it still doesn't even begin to imply that he doesn't believe what he's saying.

If I suspected I was going to win an oscar I'd plan for something to say too, if that's what you mean by "manufactured".
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Side note : After watching Brodie's speech, to see Nicole kidman crying for oscar related reasons was SICKENING.
nicole kidman can do what she damn well pleases. I will hear nothing said against her.
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Would you be saying that "Roger and I" was also a political propaganda twisted to his own viewpoint?
I wouldn't, but the reason he didn't get the Oscar for it was how much he played with the chronology, putting everything out sequence to give it more emotional impact. Doesn't bother me, it's still a wonderful film, though The Big One is about the only one thats actually a documentary that hasn't been played yet, but that runs more like an extended episode of The Awful Truth.

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I also get the feeling just from the way he acted, that his speech was 100% manufactured, planned, reviewed, and pandered to part of popular opinion.
True, it was planned, he did an almost identical speech the night before at the Indepedent Spirit Awards. You'll find people pretty much stick to the same speeches as they go between the different award ceremonies. Doesn't make it any less true though.
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I saw the film last night.
Amazing, eye-opening and moving.
Anyone who critisises the film must go and watch it first.
The main question asked is:
Why does the US have 11000 murders involving guns per year?
thats 100 times more than any other western country.
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Why does the US have 11000 murders involving guns per year?
thats 100 times more than any other western country.

This truly is the question. There have been many reasons offered for it, none of which explain it in my opinion.
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This truly is the question. There have been many reasons offered for it, none of which explain it in my opinion.
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Australia can be forgiven much for the existance of Nicole Kidman and Nick Cave.

But surely they can never be forgiven for "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport" ?
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Secretly?
you know, all this incognito stuff to disguise yourself; being in another country and whatnot.
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you know, all this incognito stuff to disguise yourself; being in another country and whatnot.
Cunning, aren't we?
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