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Unread 3 Apr 2009, 13:56   #1
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Fake attack.

Seeing how fake defense recalls eta 2 ticking 1, shouldnt attack do the same?
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Re: Fake attack.

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seeing how fake defense recalls eta 2 ticking 1, shouldnt attack do the same?

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Re: Fake attack.

I'd invert it, to be honest. Let fake defence go to eta1 as well.
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Re: Fake attack.

Yeah, either iether
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Re: Fake attack.

The way it's currently like this is to reduce (slightly) the power of fake defence, and reward attackers who stay to ETA 1 to see if it's worth landing. The strength of fake defence is you can send your fleet and know it's safe whilst you go do whatever. the weakness is it pulls early. It rewards activity, but only for that last tick.

I've had more people having issues with it by sending it to defend ingal to avoid their fleet being killed, and being caught out by the early recall / short travel times ingal and getting killed anyway.
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I've had more people having issues with it by sending it to defend ingal to avoid their fleet being killed, and being caught out by the early recall / short travel times ingal and getting killed anyway.
Given that just prelaunching saves your fleet, this makes no sense whatsoever. There's no need to actually send your fleet anywhere anymore.
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Re: Fake attack.

All I know is that I have to explain 2-3 times a round why someone got fleet caught when their fleet should be 'miles away'
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Re: Fake attack.

If thats the case with fake defense, i can totally see the reasons for it staying as is, what about fake attacks on the other hand?
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Re: Fake attack.

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Seeing how fake defense recalls eta 2 ticking 1, shouldnt attack do the same?
can you explain me why it should be the same eta they retreat?
you didnt gave a reason for this, other then that it should be like that, cause the other thing is the same

i dont see any reason why it should be the same
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Re: Fake attack.

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can you explain me why it should be the same eta they retreat?
you didnt gave a reason for this, other then that it should be like that, cause the other thing is the same

i dont see any reason why it should be the same
Because it gives a rediculous advantage to a semi intelligent BC, would u like me to explain it further for someone who doesnt fit into that category?
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Re: Fake attack.

Fake defence is ok, there is an advantage and a drawback (early auto recall) over doing it manually.
Fake atack has no such drawback, I think it should. I once suggested that fleets coming so close to a planet should take a certain amount of damage based on the fleets available in defence: 5 or 10 % of the real damage. That way it would reward activity for people who pull manually their fake attacks.
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Fake defence is ok, there is an advantage and a drawback (early auto recall) over doing it manually.
Fake atack has no such drawback, I think it should. I once suggested that fleets coming so close to a planet should take a certain amount of damage based on the fleets available in defence: 5 or 10 % of the real damage. That way it would reward activity for people who pull manually their fake attacks.
The drawback on fake attack, is that you cant land it no matter the circumstances
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Re: Fake attack.

In all fairness fake attack should be visible on the Incoming scan heh but thats another issue all together.
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Re: Fake attack.

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The drawback on fake attack, is that you cant land it no matter the circumstances
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i am up for not changing the fake thing at all (if not removing both things completely)

and jungle, stop pming me on irc that i was cool until i became an asc puppet
or give me some reasons prooving i am one

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