Some things are fab

[Gayle29uk]

This goes beyond fab and into frabjulous \o/

I want Red Dwarf and Yes Minister and Monty Python and Fawlty Towers and Allo Allo and Blackadder and...

[queball]

haha you linked to an article with "dyke" in the title

[Nusselt]

i want the bbc news archives i really do, there used to be this programme on news 24 about 4 years back that basically spend 1/2 hour replaying the live news broadcasts as they occured, watching the moon landing etc as it happened and not the edited highlights > *

[Deffeh]

Dyke to open up

that was enough for me

anyway, sounds cool. <3 the beeb

[DaWoodster]

I only think there will be BBC copywrighted material, stuff like Red Dawrf isn't "owned" by the BBC.

I guess.

[Obliterate]

I don't get it - will it be free, or will there be a fee?

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by DaWoodster
I only think there will be BBC copywrighted material, stuff like Red Dawrf isn't "owned" by the BBC.

I guess.

I believe the copyright on most of Red Dwarf is held by the BBC with some held by Grant Naylor Productions.

[queball]

Originally posted by Obliterate
I don't get it - will it be free, or will there be a fee?

depends:

"The service, the BBC Creative Archive, would be free and available to everyone, as long as they were not intending to use the material for commercial purposes, Mr Dyke added."

[Embroglio]

Free Dr. Who ahoy!

[Jammers]

Originally posted by Obliterate
I don't get it - will it be free, or will there be a fee?

Given that we've already paid for it I should hope not.

[meglamaniac]

/me waits for the surge of comments along the lines of "don't want no freeloaders from other countries downloading prouctions IIIIIIIIIII payed for with myyyyyyyy license fee..."

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by meglamaniac
/me waits for the surge of comments along the lines of "don't want no freeloaders from other countries downloading prouctions IIIIIIIIIII payed for with myyyyyyyy license fee..."

Let them watch and learn just how inferior their own programmes are in comparism

[Tactitus]

Originally posted by meglamaniac
/me waits for the surge of comments along the lines of "don't want no freeloaders from other countries downloading prouctions IIIIIIIIIII payed for with myyyyyyyy license fee..."

Too late. Many of those programs have already been shown on American TV at one time or another.

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Let them watch and learn just how inferior their own programmes are in comparism

Some of them were quite good, I admit. But then, I assume they only bothered importing the creme of the crop[*].






*Well, and Benny Hill...

[Dace]

Originally posted by Tactitus
*Well, and Benny Hill... ;)

Two words:

"My Hero"

Americans in having no sense of humour SHOCKA!

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by Tactitus
Too late. Many of those programs have already been shown on American TV at one time or another.

Some of them were quite good, I admit. But then, I assume they only bothered importing the creme of the crop

Quite good? QUITE GOOD? Sheer Godlike comedy you mean! Although I will forgive you this once on the basis that you gave us Frasier in return

[Tactitus]

Originally posted by Dace
Two words:

"My Hero"

Americans in having no sense of humour SHOCKA!

Oh good lord, is there nothing in the universe that can't be used as an excuse for some gratuitous American-bashing here on GD?

My Dad--who by some strange coincidence also happened to be an American--loved Benny Hill but I found him a bit repetitive. I was more of a Marty Feldman kind of guy. ;|




[edit]by "him" I meant Benny Hill, but--strangely--I found my Dad a bit repetitive as well. Curious... [/edit]

[Dace]

Originally posted by Tactitus
Oh good lord, is there nothing in the universe that can't be used as an excuse for some gratuitous American-bashing here on GD?
[/edit]

"My Hero" is a British "comedy" (and i use the therm "comedy" oh so very loosely).

Some Yank TV channel shows it.

It is the craziness of it all that i found amusing (ie they show that ****e but not some decent British humour).

[Scoot951]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
I believe the copyright on most of Red Dwarf is held by the BBC with some held by Grant Naylor Productions.

Some other broadcasting companies have bought broadcast rights to some of their shows, tho, AbFab for example was shown constantly on Comedy Central for a while. I know I've seen Red Dwarf and Monty Python on TV, but it might've just been PBS, so they probably won't cause much fuss.

But still, some channels might get pissed if the shows they're paying to show are on the net for free.

[Tactitus]

Originally posted by Scoot951
Some other broadcasting companies have bought broadcast rights to some of their shows, tho, AbFab for example was shown constantly on Comedy Central for a while. I know I've seen Red Dwarf and Monty Python on TV, but it might've just been PBS, so they probably won't cause much fuss.

But still, some channels might get pissed if the shows they're paying to show are on the net for free.

I don't think most of those shows are on tv much anymore, at least in the US. I think if anyone would be upset it'd be those selling the videos/DVDs.


On a somewhat related note, I just heard that the SCTV episodes will be released on DVD next year. \o/

[Vaio]

Rubarb and Custard, The Clangers, Ivor the Engine !!!!

Vaio

[Knight Theamion]

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[Leshy]

I wish they'd do that for some dutch channels, fs.

[Jammers]

Originally posted by meglamaniac
/me waits for the surge of comments along the lines of "don't want no freeloaders from other countries downloading prouctions IIIIIIIIIII payed for with myyyyyyyy license fee..."

Is it really that unreasonable to expect people to pay for a product?

[mpr0733]

I accidentally downloaded the unaired U.S. pilot of Red Dwarf. It was surprisingly unfunny.

[meglamaniac]

Originally posted by Jammers
Is it really that unreasonable to expect people to pay for a product?

Somewhere along the line, you have managed to massively miss the point to such an extent that were you to miss it any more you might accidentally totter into the back of it.

[queball]

Originally posted by meglamaniac
Somewhere along the line, you have managed to massively miss the point to such an extent that were you to miss it any more you might accidentally totter into the back of it.

That the BBC is only going to give away shows that no-one sane would pay for?

[HobbieRogue4]

Now Playing - Benny Hill - Theme Song

[Nodrog]

Im not convinced about the morality of a government body owning a copyright in the first place, to be honest.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally posted by Nodrog
Im not convinced about the morality of a government body owning a copyright in the first place, to be honest.

Eye of the tiger nod!

[Nodrog]

Originally posted by JonnyBGood
Eye of the tiger nod!

surely the copyright would have to be shared with the people who funded the production (ie the british people) anyway?

[JonnyBGood]

Originally posted by Nodrog
surely the copyright would have to be shared with the people who funded the production (ie the british people) anyway?

Didn't we have a discussion earlier in which someone mentioned that the government doesn't actually own/operate the BBC entirely? Or am I going mad?

[Nodrog]

Originally posted by JonnyBGood
Didn't we have a discussion earlier in which someone mentioned that the government doesn't actually own/operate the BBC entirely? Or am I going mad?

I dont see what this has to do with the post you just quoted.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally posted by Nodrog
I dont see what this has to do with the post you just quoted.

It'd mean that the BBC wouldn't be operated by the British government and hence wouldn't be owned by the British people.

[Nusselt]

oh come on someone say they're interested in the fcking news archives i look like a prat



anyone else download from pathe? ...anyone!?!??!!

[Nodrog]

Originally posted by JonnyBGood
It'd mean that the BBC wouldn't be operated by the British government and hence wouldn't be owned by the British people.

Its obviously not owned by the British people, however I said 'funded'.

edit: any state protected monopoly is part of the government for all intents and purposes.

[queball]

The copyright goes to whoever it goes to. If you create something while employed if might go to your boss. If you pay a company to create something it might go to them. Like if the largest purchaser of Microsoft software is the US government, that doesn't mean the copyright disappears. Even if the work isn't sold to others it's still not public. They simply contract others to do the dirty work: universities, corporations, whoever.

While the US doesn't allow the government to own copyrights, we do. So the argument is baseless. If the BBC is a governmental organisation then it holding the copyright means the copyright is in public hands; if the BBC is not a governmental organisation then the copyright should again rightly be in their hands.

[Nodrog]

Originally posted by queball

While the US doesn't allow the government to own copyrights, we do

I know this.

[queball]

Originally posted by Nodrog
I know this.

So what's your point? We should change our law, and also institute some scheme whereby Microsoft, EDS, the BBC, etc, can't own copyrights?

[Nodrog]

Originally posted by queball
So what's your point? We should change our law, and also institute some scheme whereby Microsoft, EDS, the BBC, etc, can't own copyrights?

Originally posted by Nodrog
Im not convinced about the morality of a government body owning a copyright in the first place, to be honest.

I wasnt making a legal argument.

[queball]

Originally posted by Nodrog
I wasnt making a legal argument.

You're not answering my post. What is your point? That violating the copyright on BBC shows, WindowsXP, university patents, etc, is "moral"?

[Nodrog]

Originally posted by queball
You're not answering my post. What is your point? That violating the copyright on BBC shows, WindowsXP, university patents, etc, is "moral"?

That theres no moral basis for the BBC to own a copyright in the first place.

[queball]

Originally posted by Nodrog
That theres no moral basis for the BBC to own a copyright in the first place.

Because the BBC recieves some of its money from a state monopoly and some of its money fairly?
Seem rather arbitrary, considering that every other company recieves part of its money from the gov'ment and part privately, and copyright being a state monopoly anyway and all.

[G_frog]

Probably the bbc should hold the copyright, but in trust as it were, with some kind of license automatically extended to british citizens.

getting rid of it entirely would be problematic.

[huh]

British people also fund companies by purchasing their products.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally posted by Nodrog
That theres no moral basis for copyright in the first place.

Fixed.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by huh
British people also fund companies by purchasing their products.

That's voluntary, and with competing industries.

TV licenses are mandatory.

If you watch TV that is.

[Knight Theamion]

obligatory lol ur gay lol