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31 Mar 2007, 00:32
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calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Pratchett/
lets get him what he deserves ..
UK'ers only i'm afraid
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31 Mar 2007, 01:24
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
I have been a fan of Pratchett for over about fifteen years now, but why would I want him to get a knighthood? Is it something he has badly expressed a desire for? (It may well be - I've not very checked).
While I wouldn't expect an author to strictly follow the views of one of his characters written in a fantasy novel, I'd be surprised if Pratchett was a big fan of the honours system and the things go with it. What was it Vimes said about the monarchy and honest men bowing and scraping, etc?
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31 Mar 2007, 02:25
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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actually there is a way for non-uk ppl to vote as ive voted there and im not from the uk
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31 Mar 2007, 02:43
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
The first random five books of his you read are funny, after that they become formulaic. TBH hes becoming the author equivalant of high-concept
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31 Mar 2007, 03:12
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
Let dda vote!
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31 Mar 2007, 08:08
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
This isnt something hes's asked for Dante, its something someone has decided to nominate him for.
But the nominations not enough, it needs his fans support.
Thats a fair comment Milo, thats your opinion, we cant all like the same thing, but yoou cant call a series of books formualaic and make it an insult because it is a series and therefore going to become a bit samey after a while, just as harry potter and anne mc'caffreys pern, even the james bond series and any other set of books that have been set in the same world, with the same characters will be.
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31 Mar 2007, 09:39
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
Given that Bono's just received an honorary knighthood, I signed.
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31 Mar 2007, 11:15
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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Given that Bono's just received an honorary knighthood, I signed.
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A different petition for him to be put to death? *Fingers Crossed*
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31 Mar 2007, 11:32
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
According to wikipedia (hey I'm too stupid to look up other sources) a knight is just a higher rank than those with CBEs and the like: members of The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. I wouldn't support it for that reason - the social implications of perpetuating an unrealistic perception of our real and expected power and nation-state subjugation in general. Pratchett could accept it as it would make him anti-establishment but also part of it though. He'd get to live out Vimes's social dilemma.
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31 Mar 2007, 13:16
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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According to wikipedia (hey I'm too stupid to look up other sources) a knight is just a higher rank than those with CBEs and the like: members of The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. I wouldn't support it for that reason - the social implications of perpetuating an unrealistic perception of our real and expected power and nation-state subjugation in general. Pratchett could accept it as it would make him anti-establishment but also part of it though. He'd get to live out Vimes's social dilemma.
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but without small bearded people attacking his wife with a flamethrower.
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31 Mar 2007, 13:48
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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but yoou cant call a series of books formualaic and make it an insult because it is a series and therefore going to become a bit samey after a while
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Read the science fiction works of Iain M Banks for a quick counterexample off the top of my head.
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31 Mar 2007, 13:54
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
He did a great book about whiskey distilleries, too!
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1 Apr 2007, 22:23
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I'd like to think that after all hes written parodying the establishment and worthless titles, he would have the grace to turn it down if he were offered.
If you like his writing, petition to get him a real prize (ie something awarded for literature) - the Queen/British government are hardly the people you should be looking for to judge the merit of his work.
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2 Apr 2007, 10:12
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
Terry Pratchett gets nominated for booker prize - now that would would be interesting concidering what normally gets nominated, and i'm fairly sure you have to be a 1st time published author.
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2 Apr 2007, 10:25
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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Terry Pratchett gets nominated for booker prize
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He won't
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and i'm fairly sure you have to be a 1st time published author.
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and you don't.
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2 Apr 2007, 10:48
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
who was the last established author to get nominated for a booker ?
its usually 1st timers or unknowns
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2 Apr 2007, 11:08
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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who was the last established author to get nominated for a booker ?
its usually 1st timers or unknowns
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No it isn't. To take the most recent example, Kiran Desai, her work which won in 2006 was her second novel, and her first had been critically acclaimed and won the Betty Trask Award. To take the 2005 winner, John Banville, he had published seventeen novels, won five awards and been short-listed for the Booker Prize previously before actually winning it. In response to your first question of who was the last established author to get nominated for a booker I don't even have to go back further than one year, Sarah Waters was nominated in 2006.
Maybe by established you mean people who sell 5 million copies of their book or something but to be honest the day Tom Clancy gets nominated for a Booker prize is the day I give up on literature altogether.
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Maybe by established you mean people who sell 5 million copies of their book or something but to be honest the day Tom Clancy gets nominated for a Booker prize is the day I give up on literature altogether.
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ok i'm proved wrong .. but i'm definately with you on the above point.
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2 Apr 2007, 11:56
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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the day Tom Clancy gets nominated for a Booker prize is the day I give up on literature altogether.
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Why do you even care who is nominated?
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2 Apr 2007, 12:09
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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Why do you even care who is nominated?
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Hi, you haven't met me but I'm ridiculously pretentious.
Largely because it'd signify an appalling downturn in what relatively respectable people consider good literature. If I was told a dozen people somewhere random in the US decided to change their minds from drugs should be decriminalised to burn all drug users I wouldn't care too much but if a dozen people from here did it I'd be fairly dismayed.
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2 Apr 2007, 12:26
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If I was told a dozen people somewhere random in the US decided to change their minds from drugs should be decriminalised to burn all drug users I wouldn't care too much but if a dozen people from here did it I'd be fairly dismayed.
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I don't think a judging panel selected from the bourgeois media and changes each year can properly be compared to the combined wit and wisdom that is GD.
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2 Apr 2007, 15:10
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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Maybe by established you mean people who sell 5 million copies of their book or something but to be honest the day Tom Clancy gets nominated for a Booker prize is the day I give up on literature altogether.
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Pratchett deserves a proper literature prize infinitely more than the 'lol this is a tragic tale about a poor family from africa!!!" dross you often have winning such things.
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Without even bothering to read it, this is precisely the sort of politically-motivated 'real-life' crap that is fairly representative of what 'respectable people' considered good literature towards the latter half of the 20th century. It's not like we're in a position where we can decline much further.
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2 Apr 2007, 19:33
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I like how you pretty much judged a book by its cover there
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2 Apr 2007, 19:47
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thats just how we roll around here
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2 Apr 2007, 19:47
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It's okay guys. When they hit rock bottom it'll be the perfect opportunity for the People's Republic of General Discussions to organise the division of labour, to ameliorate everyone's thought patterns.
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Re: calling all UK terry pratchett fans !!!!!
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I like how you pretty much judged a book by its cover there
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i watched bits of the tv dramatisation, i certainly wouldnt read the book if its anything remotely like it.
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I signed i read a few books and laughed some.
What ever happened to James Herbert anyways he wrote a few good books now he just write's crap.
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