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30 Jun 2014, 16:11
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Retard0r
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Didnt FAnG end ABOVE xVx, with 6 planets in the top10?
How can you claim that everyone else was shit, when xVx were far worse?
Its the same shit this round, allies dont want to be hit as a result of getting to #1, so they rather settle for ending top5!
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The previous statement stands.
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Originally Posted by Chimpie
Not my fault that you were too shit to take down ult 4 vs 1 and needed to aggrivate a neutral alliance into joining ult's side, while somehow thinking that hitting them would make them join your quest...
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You forced a neutral alliance into kingmaking ult instead of giving them a go with overwhelming numbers on your side, gg! Might not be signs of shit in your book, but it is in mine. And for the record, i never claimed xVx to be a contender that round, despite the bigger than usual memberbase we had. We were a mess and had no interest in being lured into a fight with ult so you could back out and let xVx and Ult stall eachother till xVx broke. Some rounds alliances look for fights to fight, other rounds they shy them. We had 40 new members, 20 of wich were new to PA, and not close to the level Ult were on. Simple as. In hindsight, early napping the universe and joining blocks right, left and centre would have helped the tag rank, but we never liked napping and blocking.
The metaplays are often more interesting than winning allyrank, but i don't expect you to understand that as it would seem to be a bit far fetched for you.
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30 Jun 2014, 17:22
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Blue_Esper
why would Spore/CT/ND/HR want to be part of the roid-loss brigade when none of them have the drive to play for round win due to their own personal circumstances?
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Whats their drive? To end higher you need to attack people above you
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30 Jun 2014, 17:28
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Motti
Information stored for 8:8:2 - nick=Sleepless alliance=Faceless amps=8
Information stored for 8:8:3 - nick=Redrush alliance=Faceless amps=15 dists=4
Atleast these two signed out from PA to enjoy great holidays now
Pro players both of them I am sure!
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Two players, one of which is actually on a holiday. Where are the others of the 'many people'?
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30 Jun 2014, 18:22
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Location: Canada
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Re: R57 gossip thread
Redrush = r29 winner "Sunny". When returning a few rounds ago had to pick a new nick b/c of the other sunny. uther? uther? ....
They will be back. Poor bear had to take their incoming like champ.
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30 Jun 2014, 19:04
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Whats their drive? To end higher you need to attack people above you
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you're clearly having trouble reading my posts as it seems you can't understand what i am saying. perhaps if it is capitalised for you, those alliances DONT CARE ABOUT ALLIANCE RANK THEY CARE ABOUT MEMBERS BEING HAPPY BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LOSING GREAT CHUNKS OF ROIDS IN A BATTLE THEY CAN'T WIN BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE THE DESIRE TO PLAY FOR ALLY WIN. THEY FILL THEIR TAG WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT PLANET RANK, PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE SOCIALISATION AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEND AN ATTACK AND OCCASIONALLY DEFEND WITHOUT BEING LOCKED IN FOR A WEEK OR SO OF NIGHTLY INCS ON A MASSIVE SCALE.
i hope this clears it up in no way would i expect the current alliances out side of the top 4 to compete for #1 this round. therefor i dont expect or want them to be involved in blocks, unless of course they have been forced into it by a top 4 alliance bullying them which is often the case.
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30 Jun 2014, 19:11
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Blue_Esper
you're clearly having trouble reading my posts as it seems you can't understand what i am saying. perhaps if it is capitalised for you, those alliances DONT CARE ABOUT ALLIANCE RANK THEY CARE ABOUT MEMBERS BEING HAPPY BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LOSING GREAT CHUNKS OF ROIDS IN A BATTLE THEY CAN'T WIN BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE THE DESIRE TO PLAY FOR ALLY WIN. THEY FILL THEIR TAG WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT PLANET RANK, PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE SOCIALISATION AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEND AN ATTACK AND OCCASIONALLY DEFEND WITHOUT BEING LOCKED IN FOR A WEEK OR SO OF NIGHTLY INCS ON A MASSIVE SCALE.
i hope this clears it up in no way would i expect the current alliances out side of the top 4 to compete for #1 this round. therefor i dont expect or want them to be involved in blocks, unless of course they have been forced into it by a top 4 alliance bullying them which is often the case.
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Hitting upwards DOES NOT mean getting a week worth of incs.
If it aint HR u are attacking
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30 Jun 2014, 19:42
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Hitting upwards DOES NOT mean getting a week worth of incs.
If it aint HR u are attacking
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I think maybe we need to take a moment and breathe and look at the overall picture.
Bitcher you have a way that you want the game played. This way is that everyone is warring all the time and you can only win by attacking up. Now this great and probably was the way to play the game back when you first started playing and probably up until round 30ish.
But unfortunatly the game has not evolved to meet the demads of its playerbase. We are not a bunch of 18 yr old students anymore with hours upon hours of spare time to chuck into game and be able to get up at all hours to defend our planets and our friends planets. Alot of us are now in our mid 20's to early 30's. We have jobs, we have girlfriends or wives (some have both) and quite a few of us have children. Our personal lives are no longer conclusive to a 24/7 game where most the action happens in the dead of night.
We still enjoy having a planet though, and we enjoy the basics of the game that we can enjoy without causing arguements at home or threatening our jobs due to lack of sleep.
This game is no longer playable as you wish it played by the playerbase that plays it. Why would you want to have 7 weeks of 24/7 war when you know that everyone likes to attack in teams of 2-3 alliance against your 1?
What would be the point of attacking nightly and staying up to help DC or defend at risk of your own personal life to know that 180+ planets are gonna target your alliance of 60 with waves specifically designed to strip out the roids of your best players and undo all your hard work?
I think everyone else realises that PA stopped being a war game a long time ago (as sad as that is). Its now just a trollathon or a lolathon or a sim planet game. Its not even highly political anymore. Just grab a bunch of naps which allows your members to sleep at night which keeps them happier and more active/responsive.
I am glad for you Bitcher (truly) that you are able to play the game in this idealistic way that most most of us were able to a decade ago, but until something in the concept of the game changes drastically you are going to be out on your own in this way.
So please kindly can you stop going on about what happened 10 rounds or 20 rounds ago or even 40 which you sometimes do. Little to none of us care about those days anymore, most didnt even play back then so its completely lost on them. The game now isn't the same as the game back then.
Thank you in advance.
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30 Jun 2014, 20:11
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Propaganda Chief
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
I think maybe we need to take a moment and breathe and look at the overall picture.
Bitcher you have a way that you want the game played. This way is that everyone is warring all the time and you can only win by attacking up. Now this great and probably was the way to play the game back when you first started playing and probably up until round 30ish.
But unfortunatly the game has not evolved to meet the demads of its playerbase. We are not a bunch of 18 yr old students anymore with hours upon hours of spare time to chuck into game and be able to get up at all hours to defend our planets and our friends planets. Alot of us are now in our mid 20's to early 30's. We have jobs, we have girlfriends or wives (some have both) and quite a few of us have children. Our personal lives are no longer conclusive to a 24/7 game where most the action happens in the dead of night.
We still enjoy having a planet though, and we enjoy the basics of the game that we can enjoy without causing arguements at home or threatening our jobs due to lack of sleep.
This game is no longer playable as you wish it played by the playerbase that plays it. Why would you want to have 7 weeks of 24/7 war when you know that everyone likes to attack in teams of 2-3 alliance against your 1?
What would be the point of attacking nightly and staying up to help DC or defend at risk of your own personal life to know that 180+ planets are gonna target your alliance of 60 with waves specifically designed to strip out the roids of your best players and undo all your hard work?
I think everyone else realises that PA stopped being a war game a long time ago (as sad as that is). Its now just a trollathon or a lolathon or a sim planet game. Its not even highly political anymore. Just grab a bunch of naps which allows your members to sleep at night which keeps them happier and more active/responsive.
I am glad for you Bitcher (truly) that you are able to play the game in this idealistic way that most most of us were able to a decade ago, but until something in the concept of the game changes drastically you are going to be out on your own in this way.
So please kindly can you stop going on about what happened 10 rounds or 20 rounds ago or even 40 which you sometimes do. Little to none of us care about those days anymore, most didnt even play back then so its completely lost on them. The game now isn't the same as the game back then.
Thank you in advance.
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No this is where you go wrong imho!
A top tier alliance, with active and dedicated players should most of the time only be caring for the other top alliances.
While these low tier alliance will get their daily part of, maybe 40 incs each night wich should be tolerable to cover.
The lower ranked alliances tend to start targetting each other when you go past PT300, cus their planets are normal in lower ranked gals.
Now if they could only understand that they have no need to hit each other, as it it will only result in having MORE incommings to cover in addition to the "top tier" alliances going for "easy roids".
A alliance ranked #2 or #1 most likely need to use their fleets attacking either #1 or #2 or #3, or to defend themself, allying such an alliance basicly has no value at all going past mid round.
You can disagree all you want, but ive yet to see a alliance ranked #1 or #2 aiming for a war against a lower tier alliance comming close to the final stages of the round.
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30 Jun 2014, 21:33
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!!!AMERICA!!!
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Blue_Esper
why would Spore/CT/ND/HR want to be part of the roid-loss brigade when none of them have the drive to play for round win due to their own personal circumstances?
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Ive brought back nd (with the help of good members) from rank 6th and no roids to a win ... 'not playing for the win' is just an excuse of poor leadership.
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30 Jun 2014, 21:42
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
Ive brought back nd (with the help of good members) from rank 6th and no roids to a win ... 'not playing for the win' is just an excuse of poor leadership.
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Did you win by bottom feeding or from hitting the ones above you(or allies with top avg score)? Dont say a little bit of both please.
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30 Jun 2014, 23:18
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Old Skool
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Re: R57 gossip thread
no one can win without bottom feeding, they couldn't in rnd 3 they can't in rnd 57.
And yes that goes for FanG and any other ally, that you've been part of and/or will be part of in a zillion years.
so give the discussion a rest thank you, and get back on topic.
Who is bashing p3n atm?
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1 Jul 2014, 00:25
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Killeah
no one can win without bottom feeding, they couldn't in rnd 3 they can't in rnd 57.
And yes that goes for FanG and any other ally, that you've been part of and/or will be part of in a zillion years.
so give the discussion a rest thank you, and get back on topic.
Who is bashing p3n atm?
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For a allianced ranked 5-10 midround, unless its very close, you actualy think they will win by naping 1-4 and just bottom feeding?
You might get lucky one out of sixty rounds perhaps
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1 Jul 2014, 01:02
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Old Skool
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Re: R57 gossip thread
ignoring your continuing of a pointless discussion.
Who is hitting p3n ? and why?
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1 Jul 2014, 04:28
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Registered User
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Re: R57 gossip thread
Excellent, and accurate, post Kaiba.
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1 Jul 2014, 09:48
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Killeah
ignoring your continuing of a pointless discussion.
Who is hitting p3n ? and why?
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Spore, Blackflag and ND. Spore because they think we have been hitting them (though it has only been a few targets in gal raids so far as I am aware ) the other two I am as much in the dark as you are.
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1 Jul 2014, 11:54
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Killeah
ignoring your continuing of a pointless discussion.
Who is hitting p3n ? and why?
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BF, Spore and ND with the odd gal raid from other allies. ND broke off our round long nap...assuming because the other two realised they weren't making too much headway and approached them
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1 Jul 2014, 13:19
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Re: R57 gossip thread
seems the only way to hit alliances is with large numbers of pals
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1 Jul 2014, 15:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Krypton
BF, Spore and ND with the odd gal raid from other allies. ND broke off our round long nap...assuming because the other two realised they weren't making too much headway and approached them
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Black Flag didn't attack last night.
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1 Jul 2014, 15:52
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Old Skool
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Re: R57 gossip thread
Last night , litterally means from 00:00 till 00:00 next day. - as that would cycle the standard pa attack pattern.
So you're saying bf aren't hitting p3n atm?
Interesting...
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1 Jul 2014, 15:57
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Re: R57 gossip thread
p3n cried early on about BF hitting a fort, they then retaliated hitting two forts with 3x as many BF and even included sks on a BF HC ... then when they wanted our help and BF bitched about SKs p3n had the nerve to make threats about building more and show BF what real SKs would be ... (keep in mind they are asking for BFs help lol) ...
Im assuming as ND was also hitting BF a few days ago that they didnt join up because of BF ... maybe they just smelled blood, or were also tired of the way you ask for help/treat friends?
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1 Jul 2014, 15:59
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Killeah
Last night , litterally means from 00:00 till 00:00 next day. - as that would cycle the standard pa attack pattern.
So you're saying bf aren't hitting p3n atm?
Interesting...
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BF launched waves on one p3ng then grounded for incs and retaliated those who hit BF. No attack was set as fleet were grounded till incs were covered.
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1 Jul 2014, 16:10
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
p3n cried early on about BF hitting a fort, they then retaliated hitting two forts with 3x as many BF and even included sks on a BF HC ... then when they wanted our help and BF bitched about SKs p3n had the nerve to make threats about building more and show BF what real SKs would be ... (keep in mind they are asking for BFs help lol) ...
Im assuming as ND was also hitting BF a few days ago that they didnt join up because of BF ... maybe they just smelled blood, or were also tired of the way you ask for help/treat friends?
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1 Jul 2014, 16:16
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
p3n cried early on about BF hitting a fort, they then retaliated hitting two forts with 3x as many BF and even included sks on a BF HC ... then when they wanted our help and BF bitched about SKs p3n had the nerve to make threats about building more and show BF what real SKs would be ... (keep in mind they are asking for BFs help lol) ...
Im assuming as ND was also hitting BF a few days ago that they didnt join up because of BF ... maybe they just smelled blood, or were also tired of the way you ask for help/treat friends?
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I'm still struggling to see why everyone is so sore about SK's in this game
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1 Jul 2014, 16:22
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: R57 gossip thread
I'm still struggling to see how the #1 value/score ally cant even take on #4 on their lonesome...
Still...the tortoise and the hare
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1 Jul 2014, 16:33
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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I'm still struggling to see why everyone is so sore about SK's in this game
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Dude they tried to sk me while I was on holiday . Surely sking someone when they are on holiday should be against the rules?
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1 Jul 2014, 16:33
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
p3n cried early on about BF hitting a fort, they then retaliated hitting two forts with 3x as many BF and even included sks on a BF HC ... then when they wanted our help and BF bitched about SKs p3n had the nerve to make threats about building more and show BF what real SKs would be ... (keep in mind they are asking for BFs help lol) ...
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Is this not ancient history? everyone has been through several wars since then, indeed p3n has been through whole cycles where we have gone from neutral to war to nap with several alliances. Your reason for joining spore was that we had a scrap right at the beginning of the round?
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
Im assuming as ND was also hitting BF a few days ago that they didnt join up because of BF ... maybe they just smelled blood, or were also tired of the way you ask for help/treat friends?
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P3n and ND were napped until a couple of days ago. No idea why it ended though, it may have been through fault on p3n's part for all I know.
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BF launched waves on one p3ng then grounded for incs and retaliated those who hit BF. No attack was set as fleet were grounded till incs were covered.
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This sounds pretty much like what you do when you are at war so it is rather disingenuous to say you are not giving p3n incs. You sent a lot of incs our way yesterday evening even if it was all on one planet, and then a lot more this morning.
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1 Jul 2014, 16:39
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Dude they tried to sk me while I was on holiday . Surely sking someone when they are on holiday should be against the rules?
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That's why you have vac mode pal!
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YAAARRGH!
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Re: R57 gossip thread
I vac moded once before and still havent lived it down! I dont feel i can use it again, even legitimately....
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1 Jul 2014, 17:38
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Mordar, Keel, Reip
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Finland
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Re: R57 gossip thread
Isn't this supposed to be "rumors" thread instead of "cry like you're a river" thread?
Yes, I understand that input is not much, but having read most of this... jibberish through, all I can remember from the first 5-6 pages is that: A) you all hate Kaiba, b) you all hate everyone else too, c) your alliance shouldn't be hit because it's your alliance, d) this game is shit, because of X.
We all have been here long enough to know the game, some of us have been here long enough to have seen how it has changed during the years. Alliances do what they have to do, or sometimes do what they want to do, like Apprime did few rounds back, I still raise a hat for that round win, it was exceptionally well done and I was happy to be a small part of that.
This is rumors thread, not cry over things that happen thread, ULT knows that every round they play, they will be hit, and usually they are ready for that, this time the hit was a bit stronger than so many times before and atm, ULT is in a very strong position to bounce back, easily for the win even. I have all the respect for ULT there can be.
FL bleeds roids to ULT like there's no tomorrow at the moment, ULT grows fast; and they can easily overtake any other ally in activity.
We in BF are literally slavedriving our members to give everything and then some, this is our first round, we didn't even think about having a full tag before the last few days before the round started, we never were prepared to go for the win on our first round. Of course, now that we have the possibility, we will keep on fighting to hold that possibility, us hitting on p3ng now was a natural reaction to all the shit we keep hearing. Attack is still the best defense etc.
Quite a few of you participating in this discussion are known officers/HCs/actives from a variety of alliances, some of you have planet wins, galwins, allywins, those all DO KNOW what it takes to win. Winning is not easy, losing is even harder (at least if you're competing for the win), crying is easy tho, way too easy.
So in all due respect, could we all just focus on the rumors like the topic says, and cry a little less, we all got our socks wet already.
booji: you're still not the only ones hitting the fattest ally there is, we were expecting heavy rain, and there was heavy rain, that's why we sat mostly inside.
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Isn't this supposed to be "rumors" thread instead of "cry like you're a river" thread?
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Surely everyone knows its really the propaganda board!
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Originally Posted by NoXiouS
This is rumors thread, not cry over things that happen thread, ULT knows that every round they play, they will be hit, and usually they are ready for that, this time the hit was a bit stronger than so many times before and atm, ULT is in a very strong position to bounce back, easily for the win even. I have all the respect for ULT there can be.
FL bleeds roids to ULT like there's no tomorrow at the moment, ULT grows fast; and they can easily overtake any other ally in activity.
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See a nice little bit of play down expectations of BF; dont hit us, Ult are the real threat!
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Originally Posted by NoXiouS
Of course, now that we have the possibility, we will keep on fighting to hold that possibility, us hitting on p3ng now was a natural reaction to all the shit we keep hearing. Attack is still the best defense etc.
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I dont understand how, while a couple of members wanted to hit BF many more were agitating for war - because just like they thought we were targeting them we thought they were targeting us. Chances are if you had ignored us you would have received no p3n incs for a week or two.
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booji: you're still not the only ones hitting the fattest ally there is, we were expecting heavy rain, and there was heavy rain, that's why we sat mostly inside.
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Where did I claim we were? I recognise that alliances get random incs, indeed that you could be ptargeted by whole other alliances without me knowing about it!
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
p3n cried early on about BF hitting a fort, they then retaliated hitting two forts with 3x as many BF and even included sks on a BF HC ... then when they wanted our help and BF bitched about SKs p3n had the nerve to make threats about building more and show BF what real SKs would be ... (keep in mind they are asking for BFs help lol) ...
Im assuming as ND was also hitting BF a few days ago that they didnt join up because of BF ... maybe they just smelled blood, or were also tired of the way you ask for help/treat friends?
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Shall we speak about facts here? Before the round had even started BF came to me (ie Souls) and asked me if we wanted to work together, he was also quite adamant that he wanted to go for Ult from tick start. Then of course as we know Souls had to leave due to personal reasons and left a bunch of misfits in charge (his own words when he returned not mine)
Bf then decided to keep gal raiding p3ng gals. One night in particular they hit a p3ng fort the same night Ult also hit another fort. So, after a couple of nights of this we decided to hit you back. One member in particular (who's no longer a member of p3ng) did indeed send SK's. Unfortunately though that's just the game isn't it. After that night I had yourself, pm me moaning. So therefore, you hit us first, we retaliated and you cried. That's the truth of the matter at the beginning of the round.
Now, I have never EVER asked you, or BF for help. Even when we were waring with Ult, I never once said to you 'We need you to help us' I did however point out, once faceless and ult were done with hitting us they would either turn on themselves, or they would turn on you. You gave the excuse off 'We are new.. we don't wish to join any wars'
Weeks later Souls appears again.. begging for p3ng to work with BF. Due to we didn't say yes we now have BF, Spore and ND coordinating against us. Im not complaining, if you guys feel the urge to stop the 5th ranked alliance then by all means keep hitting us to satisfy yourselves. But don't try to justify cowards with false facts MM. You cant hit us alone so you need spore and ND. (Btw ive been told that ND gal mates cant defend against BF and spore incoming...) so Yes.. your fully coordinating.
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1 Jul 2014, 18:59
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a bucket
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Assassin
But don't try to justify cowards with false facts MM. You cant hit us alone so you need spore and ND. (Btw ive been told that ND gal mates cant defend against BF and spore incoming...) so Yes.. your fully coordinating.
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I am not sure I would call it cowardly, as frankly it is sensible. While I don't think they needed to fight p3n if they were going to do it then the sensible course is to have more than one alliance do so (though I would have thought that it was BF joining Spore rather than the other way around). It is the best way to quickly defeat an alliance (when that alliance is not Ult anyway!) If BF had fought p3n one on one surely it would have been a much more drawn out affair which would make it much easier for Ult to catch BF.
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1 Jul 2014, 19:21
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
p3n cried early on about BF hitting a fort, they then retaliated hitting two forts with 3x as many BF and even included sks on a BF HC ... then when they wanted our help and BF bitched about SKs p3n had the nerve to make threats about building more and show BF what real SKs would be ... (keep in mind they are asking for BFs help lol) ...
Im assuming as ND was also hitting BF a few days ago that they didnt join up because of BF ... maybe they just smelled blood, or were also tired of the way you ask for help/treat friends?
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Seems the level of retardness in ND increase round after round.
I spoke to Basilisk as late as yesterday, asking why ND had dropped nap to join BF and spore on coordinating against us.
His responce was as following: "BF is ptargetting CT."
When i so nicely said how far out of the loop he was, he just went silent.
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1 Jul 2014, 19:27
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by NoXiouS
Isn't this supposed to be "rumors" thread instead of "cry like you're a river" thread?
Yes, I understand that input is not much, but having read most of this... jibberish through, all I can remember from the first 5-6 pages is that: A) you all hate Kaiba, b) you all hate everyone else too, c) your alliance shouldn't be hit because it's your alliance, d) this game is shit, because of X.
We all have been here long enough to know the game, some of us have been here long enough to have seen how it has changed during the years. Alliances do what they have to do, or sometimes do what they want to do, like Apprime did few rounds back, I still raise a hat for that round win, it was exceptionally well done and I was happy to be a small part of that.
This is rumors thread, not cry over things that happen thread, ULT knows that every round they play, they will be hit, and usually they are ready for that, this time the hit was a bit stronger than so many times before and atm, ULT is in a very strong position to bounce back, easily for the win even. I have all the respect for ULT there can be.
FL bleeds roids to ULT like there's no tomorrow at the moment, ULT grows fast; and they can easily overtake any other ally in activity.
We in BF are literally slavedriving our members to give everything and then some, this is our first round, we didn't even think about having a full tag before the last few days before the round started, we never were prepared to go for the win on our first round. Of course, now that we have the possibility, we will keep on fighting to hold that possibility, us hitting on p3ng now was a natural reaction to all the shit we keep hearing. Attack is still the best defense etc.
Quite a few of you participating in this discussion are known officers/HCs/actives from a variety of alliances, some of you have planet wins, galwins, allywins, those all DO KNOW what it takes to win. Winning is not easy, losing is even harder (at least if you're competing for the win), crying is easy tho, way too easy.
So in all due respect, could we all just focus on the rumors like the topic says, and cry a little less, we all got our socks wet already.
booji: you're still not the only ones hitting the fattest ally there is, we were expecting heavy rain, and there was heavy rain, that's why we sat mostly inside.
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You want some cheese with that whine?
Feels a bit contradictive whining about other people whining...
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1 Jul 2014, 19:31
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Re: R57 gossip thread
I think eksero needs to calm down.
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1 Jul 2014, 20:16
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Last night , litterally means from 00:00 till 00:00 next day. - as that would cycle the standard pa attack pattern.
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Unless you're in North Coldland, nights generally don't last for 24 hours. Literally, night means "time between sunset and sunrise", which at this time of year, in most of Europe, is 5-7 hours. Speaking for my own location, it's 6 hours and 3 minutes, between 22:45 and 05:33.
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1 Jul 2014, 20:57
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by NoXiouS
Isn't this supposed to be "rumors" thread instead of "cry like you're a river" thread?
Yes, I understand that input is not much, but having read most of this... jibberish through, all I can remember from the first 5-6 pages is that: A) you all hate Kaiba, b) you all hate everyone else too, c) your alliance shouldn't be hit because it's your alliance, d) this game is shit, because of X.
We all have been here long enough to know the game, some of us have been here long enough to have seen how it has changed during the years. Alliances do what they have to do, or sometimes do what they want to do, like Apprime did few rounds back, I still raise a hat for that round win, it was exceptionally well done and I was happy to be a small part of that.
This is rumors thread, not cry over things that happen thread, ULT knows that every round they play, they will be hit, and usually they are ready for that, this time the hit was a bit stronger than so many times before and atm, ULT is in a very strong position to bounce back, easily for the win even. I have all the respect for ULT there can be.
FL bleeds roids to ULT like there's no tomorrow at the moment, ULT grows fast; and they can easily overtake any other ally in activity.
We in BF are literally slavedriving our members to give everything and then some, this is our first round, we didn't even think about having a full tag before the last few days before the round started, we never were prepared to go for the win on our first round. Of course, now that we have the possibility, we will keep on fighting to hold that possibility, us hitting on p3ng now was a natural reaction to all the shit we keep hearing. Attack is still the best defense etc.
Quite a few of you participating in this discussion are known officers/HCs/actives from a variety of alliances, some of you have planet wins, galwins, allywins, those all DO KNOW what it takes to win. Winning is not easy, losing is even harder (at least if you're competing for the win), crying is easy tho, way too easy.
So in all due respect, could we all just focus on the rumors like the topic says, and cry a little less, we all got our socks wet already.
booji: you're still not the only ones hitting the fattest ally there is, we were expecting heavy rain, and there was heavy rain, that's why we sat mostly inside.
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Ding...And the Answer is 'Dat BF BS'...
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1 Jul 2014, 22:25
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Re: R57 gossip thread
Silly BF! War with an ally out of the running when you're aiming for #1 now. I only see this as being completely unnecessary incoming when you could have just sat and let ult and faceless fight it out. Theres still plenty of ticks for your farming and alliance positions in t3 will surely take a swift change
Spore I understand.. a few nice lands gives them nice gains to move up the ranks and keep the members happy beavers.
Nd... zomg...potentially a dire decision
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1 Jul 2014, 22:26
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Unless you're in North Coldland, nights generally don't last for 24 hours. Literally, night means "time between sunset and sunrise", which at this time of year, in most of Europe, is 5-7 hours. Speaking for my own location, it's 6 hours and 3 minutes, between 22:45 and 05:33.
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I stand corrected
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1 Jul 2014, 22:51
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Nd... zomg...potentially a dire decision
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Well they have had some ND landings with their usual bit of self destruction, but also some big xp landings. Balances each other out I would say! Since when did ND care about some crashes anyway
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2 Jul 2014, 01:50
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Connovar
Dude they tried to sk me while I was on holiday . Surely sking someone when they are on holiday should be against the rules?
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We have these new constructions, I don't know if you've seen them, but they prevent SK's from killing your structures. Perhaps you should build some!
On a side note, I'm glad to see im not the only one baffled by the #1, #6, and #7 alliance ganking the #4 alliance. And yes, Assassin, you have it right, we have (at least spore and ND) been told not to def p3ng planets. I can't confirm if it is the same for BF.
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2 Jul 2014, 04:02
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Unless you're in North Coldland, nights generally don't last for 24 hours. Literally, night means "time between sunset and sunrise", which at this time of year, in most of Europe, is 5-7 hours. Speaking for my own location, it's 6 hours and 3 minutes, between 22:45 and 05:33.
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it is night time always somewhere in the world
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2 Jul 2014, 08:42
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by eksero
I'm still struggling to see why everyone is so sore about SK's in this game
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So true pal, it makes no sense. Especially now that you can actually become immune to SKs - if you just priority it, much like you can become immune to covops via guards....
But isn't whining over SK just a easy reason to justify a war effort typically towards an alliance you can easily overtake/break of a ongoing deal.
Just a nice tool to achieve easy roids while you appear as the good guy?
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2 Jul 2014, 10:32
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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it is night time always somewhere in the world
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Night is indeed a localized phenomenon. Yet "night" in PA is a well-understood concept, and does not include 8am or 4pm.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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2 Jul 2014, 11:22
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Night is indeed a localized phenomenon. Yet "night" in PA is a well-understood concept, and does not include 8am or 4pm.
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Give it a rest Mz. You try to come off as the smartest bloke alive, yet you got outdone in this instance. Not everyone, and particularly those in the Southern Hemisphere refer to the PA hours you mentioned as night.
Anyway moving on, those pesky pirates are getting lonely on their big ol ship, leading the pack. Rumour has it, while they have time, Conno has sailed into Thailand for some ladyboy love for the crew
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2 Jul 2014, 12:40
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by booji
This sounds pretty much like what you do when you are at war so it is rather disingenuous to say you are not giving p3n incs. You sent a lot of incs our way yesterday evening even if it was all on one planet, and then a lot more this morning.
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We didnt say we didn't give you incs, someone implied we all three attacked together, clouds said we were grounded, to imply we clearly attacked with no one.
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2 Jul 2014, 13:06
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Re: R57 gossip thread
i think it's pretty obvious that the definition of attacking together is two or more alliances hitting the same alliance that are non-galraids (gal raids are where all targets within a galaxy get incs, hitting a fortgal can be a gal raid but depending on the size of fortgal or the alliance definition of fortgal it will most likely be considered targeting)
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2 Jul 2014, 13:10
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Re: R57 gossip thread
Both Krypton and my comments were that ND, BF and spore are attacking us, neither gave an opinion as to whether they were attacking together or coordinated - though in practice it would be slightly surprising if three alliances had independently decided to fight p3n at the same time.
Killeah's comment was just straight out asking if you are hitting p3n without any mention of other alliances at all.
There was therefore no such implication.
Besides I dont know about you but I would think that most people would believe that one alliance grounding to take the attacks from a second alliance while another two attack that second alliance is coordination and giving the second alliance incs in a broad sense, particularly when that first alliance then sent its attacks when the second alliance was out of defence in the morning.
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2 Jul 2014, 13:34
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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One sure thing is that whining only won't make attacks stop. Another is that alone, even grounding, your ally (as most, probably Ult being the only exception) probably don't have the steam to hold three others for more than one or two nights. From my little experience there are two ways, either you find some help or you make sure to be bashed as fast as you can so those allies stop bullying yours.
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2 Jul 2014, 13:35
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Re: R57 gossip thread
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Originally Posted by ManiacMagic
We didnt say we didn't give you incs, someone implied we all three attacked together, clouds said we were grounded, to imply we clearly attacked with no one.
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Are you seriously trying to defend that? Wow MM, the little respect for you i had left, just flew out a window. Funny how not once have it been double booked targets, and always hit on same LT's... And none of the others DENY IT!
.... not even sure what you are trying to defend... besides being retarded
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