lesbians

[Androme]

can you turn a lesbian woman straight?

[Event_Horizon]

I suppose it depends on the woman, and her reasons for being a lesbian....

[Evergreen]

You can turn em bi.

p.s. there is only bi and straight people in the world.

[Deepflow]

Originally Posted by Evergreen

You can turn em bi.

p.s. there is only bi and straight people in the world.

marry me

[Evergreen]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

marry me

Do you have a canadian passport?

[Deepflow]

i can get one.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Evergreen

p.s. there is only bi and straight people in the world.

Evidence?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Evidence?

How dare you talk to the mighty sunday with questions of 'evidence' or 'facts' or 'a clue'

[Rumad]

A woman i used to work with was lesbian. She fell out with her lesbian lover and ended up marrying someone she went to university with (male).

So I guess its possible as she says she would never sleep with another woman.

[roadrunner_0]

yes, you can turn a lesbian straight, at least for a while, but it really depends on why they are a lesbian, these so called 'metrosexuals' arent really lesbian etc, but bi, and wil turn straight when they settle down a lot of the time.

but, there are true lesbians who you cant turn straight as well

[Tomkat]

Most lesbians are dog-ugly (in my somewhat limited experience), so why would you want to?

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

Most lesbians are dog-ugly (in my somewhat limited experience), so why would you want to?

deidre wasn't particularly ugly

Her partner was though

[ChubbyChecker]

If you can then she was never a lesbian in the first place

[djbass]

I don't believe that anyone is predestined to be gay.

[queball]

There might be a giant indestructible robot whose sole mission is to ensure the woman's homosexuality above all else.

[madi]

the lesbian women i know are all scary comfortable shoe wearing women who weigh too much
my boyfriend has informed me that there are plenty of good looking fit experimental girls who wouldnt mind coming to stay for the weekend
but i dont think they are really lesbians, just kinky

[Phang]

Originally Posted by djbass

I don't believe that anyone is predestined to be gay.

and the testimony of the overwhelming majority of people who consider themselves 'gay' doesnt matter because they're fags lololol

[Structural Integrity]

Gayness is a product of the evergrowing individualism and attempts of uniqueness in our society.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Phang

and the testimony of the overwhelming majority of people who consider themselves 'gay' doesnt matter because they're fags lololol

Well, it depends what he means by "predestined". That seems like a bit of an odd word to use anyway.

Originally Posted by Structural Integrity

Gayness is a product of the evergrowing individualism and attempts of uniqueness in our society.

If you're not joking then you're an idiot. I'm sure you are joking, but you know, just in case.

[Structural Integrity]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

If you're not joking then you're an idiot. I'm sure you are joking, but you know, just in case.

You know, somewhere I don't believe homosexuality is something genetic or in any other way predetermined at birth. Atleast not for the majority of homosexuals (not talking about people that actually have a hormone problem). It's hard to explain, but I believe a lot of the homosexuality is the result of a mental state of these individuals, rather than actual sexual attraction. And to elaborate, I believe that these "mental states" are a result of the workings of our society.
Thus somewhere, in a very remote and moderate sense, I wasn't joking.

Shoot me. Or discuss!

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Structural Integrity

You know, somewhere I don't believe homosexuality is something genetic or in any other way predetermined at birth.

Well, all of that is a lot less radical than your initial statement.

It is possible that something happens through someones childhood (for example) which might increase tendancies in that direction. This is difficult to prove either way (the individual in question might not be able to tell why). But that is a completley different point to attributing it to "attempts of uniqueness in our society." That is implying that it's some sort of fashion thing which is pretty offensive tbh.

However, I'm not sure what the difference between a "mental state" and a "sexual attraction". Are you saying people are pretending to find their own sex attractive? Surely what you find attractive is determined by your own mental state? Is there a real difference?

[IncubusGod]

You have to ask yourself Androme...isn't "is it possible to turn them straight" but "am I able to turn them straight"

Clearly the answer would be no and so you should stop wasting your time thinking about this and spend more time setting up hidden cameras in their room.

[Zorro]

Anne Heche was with Ellen Degeneres, but now she's married (to a guy) and has a kid. She also now says he finds homosexuality disgusting. So, yes, it's possible. It's happened before. Course then again, it's worked the other way around before too...............

[Structural Integrity]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Well, all of that is a lot less radical than your initial statement.

It is possible that something happens through someones childhood (for example) which might increase tendancies in that direction. This is difficult to prove either way (the individual in question might not be able to tell why). But that is a completley different point to attributing it to "attempts of uniqueness in our society." That is implying that it's some sort of fashion thing which is pretty offensive tbh.

Don't we all like shocking statements?

However, I'm not sure what the difference between a "mental state" and a "sexual attraction". Are you saying people are pretending to find their own sex attractive? Surely what you find attractive is determined by your own mental state? Is there a real difference?

Sexual attraction as in the chemical stuff that happens...

Most of this is based on opinion, rather than on scientific facts. And until there are no scientific facts on gayness, discussing it has little use other than testing who can vent their opinions loudest.

[djbass]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Well, it depends what he means by "predestined". That seems like a bit of an odd word to use anyway.

Essentially what I meant was that I don't believe that anyones sexuality is hardwired and under the right conditions can be made to swing either way. I do however believe that the bias is on heterosexuality.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Structural Integrity

Sexual attraction as in the chemical stuff that happens...

What chemical stuff? Surely a gay guy getting a hard-on for another guy is a "chemical" reaction of some kind?

I mean, if I kiss a pretty girl I feel a buzz (on some level). My friend (who is gay) says that although he has been with a woman he felt nothing. When he went with a guy he did feel something. On what level are these chemicals working?

[Androme]

Karma Sutra

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Androme2

can you turn a lesbian woman straight?

No, because anyone who is now straight has always been straight and they were just confused beforehand so clearly they were not a lesbian originally.


This proof can also be expanded to show how black people are inevitably criminals.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

No, because anyone who is now straight has always been straight and they were just confused beforehand so clearly they were not a lesbian originally.


This proof can also be expanded to show how black people are inevitably criminals.

Its a good point this you could also include in the confuse category, trendy to be gay.

[Phang]

Originally Posted by Rumad

Its a good point this you could also include in the confuse category, trendy to be gay.

anyone who can imagine the idea of 'trendy to be gay' possibly is a total cretin who is not altogether familiar with the whole social pariah thing that comes with it.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Phang

anyone who can imagine the idea of 'trendy to be gay' possibly is a total cretin who is not altogether familiar with the whole social pariah thing that comes with it.

What about that episode in friends with the ice-skating guy?

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Phang

anyone who can imagine the idea of 'trendy to be gay' possibly is a total cretin who is not altogether familiar with the whole social pariah thing that comes with it.

Agreed. But even beyond that, how many straight guys would want to be ****ed in the ass because it was trendy?

I mean, maybe I'm just unique but I wouldn't care how ****ing fashionable it got, I would never ever want to be penetrated by another guy. As in ever. Presumably the people who advance the "lol trend to be gay" theory are so borderline faggot they don't think fancying men would be a big step for them.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Phang

anyone who can imagine the idea of 'trendy to be gay' possibly is a total cretin who is not altogether familiar with the whole social pariah thing that comes with it.

I can point you in he direction of some people wh i know who are like that. and you right they probably are, but those sort of people exist.

[Phang]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

What about that episode in friends with the ice-skating guy?

i dont watch friends. but im sure it was an altogether hilarious incident and no saccharine abuse of sterotypes was employed whatsoever!

[JonnyBGood]

Apparently if you don't talk to your dad, dislike beer and have styled your hair you're probably gay.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Agreed. But even beyond that, how many straight guys would want to be ****ed in the ass because it was trendy?

I mean, maybe I'm just unique but I wouldn't care how ****ing fashionable it got, I would never ever want to be penetrated by another guy. As in ever. Presumably the people who advance the "lol trend to be gay" theory are so borderline faggot they don't think fancying men would be a big step for them.

The ppl I know are straight, but go t gay clubs, dress slightly gay and preten to be gay for whatever reason. Don't think I hand out with them becuase i don't but I do know what they do etc.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Phang

i dont watch friends. but im sure it was an altogether hilarious incident and no saccharine abuse of sterotypes was employed whatsoever!

Shut up you faggot (well someone had to say it first )

[Phang]

Originally Posted by Rumad

dress slightly gay

paging GLAAD. oh and stop being shit

[Rumad]

no need to get uppity

Take some prozac

[Phang]

Originally Posted by Rumad

no need to get uppity

Take some prozac

only if you take some cyanide first

[Evergreen]

Look the only 'truly' gay people are those who have had some level of psycholigical trauma or have suffered from a horrible birth defect (gender mismorphis or some crap) which means in those cases they are 'gay' out of mental illness or physical illness which means they are exceptions that can't be counted in the whole world of sexuality they are mentally and physically ill people who need help.

Those who don't fall into that category are found to be just as likely to sleep with either gender according to their criteria (sexual or companionship arousal) hence why you have butch and hawt lesbians macho and pansy gays......

It's all about afinity to their primary attraction criteria, Men will sleep with handsome enough women who are receptive to them (hello yahwe, denial and several other 'gay' men I know of) most appreciate the defence being out and homosexual in today's community provides them against rebuttal from female relations in social circles (one of the more devastating psychological abuses still inflictable in adult society is the attacking of someone's appeal to people of the opposite gender), which goes vice versa...... it also goes for personality, women will not sleep with men cause they are all 'jerks' line but in retrospect most eventually find mister right....

So you are either bi or straight in this world (or mentally/physically ill). The sooner society becomes more open and less judgemental the sooner this gay and lesbian thing will disappear.

[Phang]

Originally Posted by Evergreen

Look the only 'truly' gay people are those who have had some level of psycholigical trauma or have suffered from a horrible birth defect (gender mismorphis or some crap) which means in those cases they are 'gay' out of mental illness or physical illness which means they are exceptions that can't be counted in the whole world of sexuality they are mentally and physically ill people who need help.

Those who don't fall into that category are found to be just as likely to sleep with either gender according to their criteria (sexual or companionship arousal) hence why you have butch and hawt lesbians macho and pansy gays......

It's all about afinity to their primary attraction criteria, Men will sleep with handsome enough women who are receptive to them (hello yahwe, denial and several other 'gay' men I know of) most appreciate the defence being out and homosexual in today's community provides them against rebuttal from female relations in social circles (one of the more devastating psychological abuses still inflictable in adult society is the attacking of someone's appeal to people of the opposite gender), which goes vice versa...... it also goes for personality, women will not sleep with men cause they are all 'jerks' line but in retrospect most eventually find mister right....

So you are either bi or straight in this world (or mentally/physically ill). The sooner society becomes more open and less judgemental the sooner this gay and lesbian thing will disappear.

i cannot actually begin to describe how much your existence pains me

[JonnyBGood]

I hereby propose the Platonic notion of the perfectly straight human being towards whom we all attempt to rise in our efforts as individuals.

[Zorro]

I remember in my pyschology class, the teacher insisted there was no such thing as someone who is "totally straight". Does anyone agree with that? I think he was just trying to justify his own inner feelings.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Phang

only if you take some cyanide first

I bet you don't have too many friends huh?

You seem to lack certain social skills.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Evergreen

So you are either bi or straight in this world (or mentally/physically ill).

Definite contender for Bizarro World's POTW.

[vampire_lestat]

Originally Posted by Zorro

I remember in my pyschology class, the teacher insisted there was no such thing as someone who is "totally straight". Does anyone agree with that? I think he was just trying to justify his own inner feelings.

he was clearly gay.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Zorro

I remember in my pyschology class, the teacher insisted there was no such thing as someone who is "totally straight". Does anyone agree with that? I think he was just trying to justify his own inner feelings.

Mathematically speaking the number of men who will ever exist quickly reaches the point where one of them will look sufficiently enough like your abstract model of sexual perfection for you to be attracted to them. The concept of being totally straight is clearly irrelevant idealism due to the fluctuating nature of human preferences.

[vampire_lestat]

but surey that perfect male would be perfectly straight, otherwise he wouldn't be perfect.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by vampire_lestat

but surey that perfect male would be perfectly straight, otherwise he wouldn't be perfect.

Don't be silly. Clearly everyone's personal preference will not fluctuate in exactly the same fashion. The concept of your personal dream being universal is intellectual masturbation on the highest level.