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Unread 29 Mar 2009, 21:49   #1
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Arcade...

As some of you may have noticed, the arcade link now works. For those of you that have noticed, I've just added a few more games.

One thing I would like to say - can someone please break Light's monopoly? It's depressing to see her leading so many games already!
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Re: Arcade...

In order to play Asteroids, you need to have a reputation of at least 0 points. Your current reputation stands at -61 points.
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Unread 29 Mar 2009, 22:54   #3
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Re: Arcade...

Well she has 4hrs 30 mins play time.

No-one else is sad enough to play arcade games for that long -.-'
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In order to play Asteroids, you need to have a reputation of at least 0 points. Your current reputation stands at -61 points.
What. That's ridiculous. (Fixed the problem for you, by the way.)
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Unread 30 Mar 2009, 00:10   #5
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Re: Arcade...

So tempted to rep back to negative. So. Very. Tempted.
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Unread 30 Mar 2009, 00:21   #6
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Re: Arcade...

Also, it's hard to take Light's records when some of the games she has won them on no longer work...
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Unread 30 Mar 2009, 00:33   #7
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yeah i noticed that too , now back to take my sofa jump title
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ye i had 118k on invaderz! then it bugged:<
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Re: Arcade...

Light cheats
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Re: Arcade...

List of Broken Games:

Asteroids
Chopper Challenge
Curveball
Eskiv
Parachute Panic
Smack The Rabbit
Snake
Space Invaders
Tetris
Zoo Keeper

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Unread 30 Mar 2009, 00:59   #11
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Re: Arcade...

List of Broken Games:

Chopper Challenge
Curveball
Eskiv
Asteroids

Seems you broke most of the games which were up at the start.
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I vote we remove the arcade and give Light her life back.
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Zoo keeper is fked too
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Re: Arcade...

you know, you could just remove the arcade, what with being shit at updating it at alll...
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you know, you could just remove the arcade, what with being shit at updating it at alll...
Its been up for 2days? and we only noticed the bug after the admins had gone to bed..

Anywayz, There's 2 Typing Games.. so one of those could do with being deleted
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Re: Arcade...

solitaire wouldn't take my score yesterday.

p.s. you slags stop beating me the games always lag and and i lose
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Re: Arcade...

Yeah it seems weird apparently when i added the other games it broke. Will fix it when i get to work! I'll remove solitare too
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Interesting way to pass the time regardless
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Re: Arcade...

Fixed the old games.
I'm glad it's been such a hit. Now all we need to do is make the people who play want to talk on the forums too
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Its been up for 2days? and we only noticed the bug after the admins had gone to bed..

Anywayz, There's 2 Typing Games.. so one of those could do with being deleted
Just because you suck at them both?


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Soap Bubble broken? I didn't get my name on the list.
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Soap Bubble broken? I didn't get my name on the list.
Did you hit submit score after you had died? Once you die (all your lives) it takes you back to the start menu where you can either go again or submit your score.
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Did you hit submit score after you had died? Once you die (all your lives) it takes you back to the start menu where you can either go again or submit your score.
Oh! I must have missed that. It wasn't there few years ago. Thanks
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Re: Arcade...

Here's my recommendations for removing some of the games:
Sofa Longjump: Its got a score-cap, so whoever gets 11 now.. wins.
Apples: Its got a score-cap, everyones on 100
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Most games have caps you idiot, some are just easier than others.
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Most games have caps you idiot, some are just easier than others.
3D Superball, theoretically there is a cap.. but there is pretty much no chance anyone will reach it. So the high score can always be beaten.
Alien Attack, they keep coming.
Alien Commander, they keep coming.
Alien Invasion, they keep coming.
Anime Blackjack, can gamble for as long as you want.
AppleHunt, score's bugged but i presume the levels are on a loop.
Apples, has a fixed scorecap.. should be deleted.
Arkanoid, you can go for as long as you want.
Aski, go for as long as you want.
Asteroids, go for as long as you want.
Asteroids 2k, go for as long as you want.
Autobahn, go for as long as you want.
BalloonBomber, go for as long as you want (saw people with 2billion high score).
Barts Watersport adventure, no idea.
Bassteroids, presume the same as Asteroids.. go for as long as you want.

etc. So Zeyi, you sir.. are the idiot. The vast majority of games dont have a score cap, as then they'd be useless in a arcade.

but then again, i guess those are your types of games.. The ones with an easy score-cap to reach, where 'everyones a winner'.. So you can finally win at something
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Re: Arcade...

All games reach a point of impossiblity, thus have a cap.

However just to burst your bubble, in all programming languages the maximum value an integer variable may take is 2147483648 (2.14B).

There's your score cap, good day m'lady.

It is in fact possible to get 9223372036854775807 in Java as a long data type, and I'm sure it is similar for other languages, but for the purpose of memory consumption and efficiency no Flash game would ever use them. Nor do I know if flash can even support this.
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All games reach a point of impossiblity, thus have a cap.

However just to burst your bubble, in most/all programming languages the maximum value an interger variable may take on a 32bit OS is 2147483648 (2.14B).

There's your score cap, good day m'lady.
lulz, thats your argument? k, lets go through the games again.. and see which have a 'theoretical cap which will never be reached':
3D superball, the current highscore is 10? Yeah i really think someone's going to reach 2147483648.
Alien Attack, the current highscore is 123, Yeah i really think someone's going to reach 2147483648.
Alien Commander, the current highscore is 4224, Yeah i really think someone's going to reach 2147483648.
etc.

Stop with the BS Zeyi.

o and if were going to take theoreticals.. How do you know the coder didnt include infinite integers? where if the value of highscore goes above a certain value, it splits it into 2 integers \o/ (and so forth).
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Oh so now we're allowed to hypothesize no-one will ever reach certain values.

I must have misinterpreted this then:

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3D Superball, theoretically there is a cap.. but there is pretty much no chance anyone will reach it. So the high score can always be beaten.
Alien Attack, they keep coming.
Alien Commander, they keep coming.
Alien Invasion, they keep coming.
Anime Blackjack, can gamble for as long as you want.
AppleHunt, score's bugged but i presume the levels are on a loop.
Apples, has a fixed scorecap.. should be deleted.
Arkanoid, you can go for as long as you want.
Aski, go for as long as you want.
Asteroids, go for as long as you want.
Asteroids 2k, go for as long as you want.
Autobahn, go for as long as you want.
BalloonBomber, go for as long as you want (saw people with 2billion high score).
Barts Watersport adventure, no idea.
Bassteroids, presume the same as Asteroids.. go for as long as you want.

etc. So Zeyi, you sir.. are the idiot. The vast majority of games dont have a score cap, as then they'd be useless in a arcade.

but then again, i guess those are your types of games.. The ones with an easy score-cap to reach, where 'everyones a winner'.. So you can finally win at something
because now you're just contradicting yourself.


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Oh so now we're allowed to hypothesize no-one will ever reach certain values.
When someone reaches those values, you've got an argument. Until then, its theoretically possible but never going to happen as would take weeks/months.

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You're on 8 hours so only a few weeks to go
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You're on 8 hours so only a few weeks to go
How many hours are you on? :P
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Awesome, thanks for the pos rep ppl, some pretty cool games on the arcade that are great for passing time.
managed to get a high score on one until Light stole it :P

i think i will have to purchase a mouse for my laptop as some are a tad hard when using a trackpad.
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Talking about the arcade games..

It's no fun when you dunno if the scores are real or not.
My Asteroids highscore is a cheat for example. And i'm pretty sure the exact same cheat works on every other game aswell. It's not decrypted or anything, just obfuscated. So really, it isnt hard to figure out how to do it (hint, score id and note all relates to each other.). Only thing you can spot it being a cheat atm is that i couldnt bother make it rounded numbers, and my seconds are a bit low (which could be changed 2 ways).

So untill that gets properly fixed, i see no point in bragging rights, as it's too easy to cheat without it ever being noticed.

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Flash game variables can be modified at runtime, so most games could be cheated at indeed.
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Yep, but when you don't even need to do that, its alot easier.
Would be alot harder if the game didn't send the scores through you
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Oh Lawd, please don't tell me it's as trivial as using tamper data.

Ste you know arcade cheats get closed in-game right!?
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Ste you know arcade cheats get closed in-game right!?
It's as trivial as tamper data, then you gotta change a couple of values (not only score), and it's done.

And yeah i totally knew that!
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The flashing lights, the flashing lights.
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I m quite enjoying the arcade games!

also, I just made #arcade well, I am gonna reg it unless someone do it before my other chan is purged, spose it would be a bit cool to have a chan where we could brag about our current highscores on the games worth playing. ( not toooo many )
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Cheating on the fourms arcade? Guess that explains the ridiculously high scores on zookeeper, or I'm just really shit at it :/
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It only ever stopped once and said "no more moves" but fs, I know something is rigged.

I can't be that shit, I play 'collapse' on freearcade.com all the time
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It only ever stopped once and said "no more moves" but fs, I know something is rigged.

I can't be that shit, I play 'collapse' on freearcade.com all the time
Is zookeeper the one where you can play until you run out of moves? or play until you run out of time?

If so, choose time

As the highscore is only 1.5k above what i achieved and i can tell you that i definatly havent cheated on any of my scores (except spankthemonkey where i did the rightclick trick) that the score is probably legit.

You just need to get one move every 2seconds, just look for your next move while your clicking your previous move.
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Is zookeeper the one where you can play until you run out of moves? or play until you run out of time?
It's not the one. In zookeeper you just have to collect enough each animals before the time runs out to get to the next level.

19k is pretty low score btw. I found a screenshot on my compyter where I have scored 43k at ebaumsworld.
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remove weapons of mass destruction plz as the scores on it are reversed.
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you mean they should be ordered differently?
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Meaning you get a high score by taking the longest (or specifically by leaving it running and going to sleep).
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