R65 Inc stats

[Bram]

The following is based on data about fleet launches provided by the PA team.


There is a difference in the data displayed below and the data on history page, in the stats below:

• alliance = alliance at launch time
• only fleets counted which landed on or before the final tick

In the output below:

• the rows represent the number of incs an alliance received
• the columns represent the number of hostile fleets an alliance launched

This has also been posted on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw/3asjTb3c



alliance at launch time, fleets landing during the round


Full round: Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1177: 1177 ticks

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Norsemen     |       |   135 |    60 |    60 |   118 |    22 |    93 |     3 |     3 |    36 |    61 |   591 |
| Faceless     |   159 |       |   953 |   197 |    61 |   148 |   402 |   526 |    93 |    62 |   161 |  2762 |
| Ultores      |   229 |  1324 |       |  1195 |  1895 |  1878 |    32 |   137 |       |    11 |   147 |  6848 |
| Conspiracy   |   182 |   217 |   461 |       |   342 |    24 |  1231 |   213 |    69 |    61 |   173 |  2973 |
| p3nguins     |   290 |    48 |   460 |   331 |       |   141 |   538 |   356 |    67 |    32 |   132 |  2395 |
| NewDawn      |    13 |   123 |   763 |    25 |   136 |       |   294 |   322 |   113 |    49 |   220 |  2058 |
| RainbowS     |    94 |   242 |    23 |  1128 |   394 |   331 |       |    67 |     4 |    29 |   157 |  2469 |
| Howling Rain |     2 |   455 |   136 |   290 |   283 |   429 |   107 |       |    23 |    10 |   116 |  1851 |
| Astatores    |    59 |    52 |       |    64 |    40 |   278 |     9 |    46 |       |     3 |    56 |   607 |
| HEROES       |    86 |    19 |    10 |    14 |    31 |   116 |    61 |    18 |     1 |       |    39 |   395 |
| Other        |   317 |   242 |   168 |   152 |   281 |   386 |   300 |   208 |    61 |    33 |   452 |  2600 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  1431 |  2857 |  3034 |  3456 |  3581 |  3753 |  3067 |  1896 |   434 |   326 |  1714 | 25549 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

Top 10 hostile days:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Norsemen     |   107 |    58 |    39 |    37 |    36 |    31 |    28 |    25 |    21 |    21 || 68.19% |
| Faceless     |   178 |   174 |   173 |   160 |   154 |   131 |   121 |    95 |    94 |    94 || 49.75% |
| Ultores      |   326 |   299 |   251 |   247 |   246 |   240 |   236 |   219 |   218 |   214 || 36.45% |
| Conspiracy   |   202 |   183 |   171 |   161 |   144 |   125 |   102 |   100 |    93 |    91 || 46.15% |
| p3nguins     |   179 |   161 |   160 |   153 |   151 |   136 |   134 |   112 |    81 |    75 || 56.03% |
| NewDawn      |   177 |   143 |   141 |   120 |   110 |    83 |    83 |    78 |    76 |    73 || 52.67% |
| RainbowS     |   123 |   119 |   114 |    98 |    93 |    88 |    84 |    81 |    81 |    79 || 38.88% |
| Howling Rain |   106 |    90 |    82 |    80 |    77 |    75 |    73 |    69 |    64 |    63 || 42.09% |
| Astatores    |    94 |    80 |    63 |    31 |    31 |    25 |    24 |    23 |    19 |    15 || 66.72% |
| HEROES       |    30 |    22 |    20 |    19 |    18 |    17 |    17 |    15 |    15 |    14 || 47.34% |
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Most hostile fleets from:

| To           | From         | From         |
----------------------------------------------
| Norsemen     | Faceless     | p3nguins     |
| Faceless     | Ultores      | Howling Rain |
| Ultores      | p3nguins     | NewDawn      |
| Conspiracy   | RainbowS     | Ultores      |
| p3nguins     | RainbowS     | Ultores      |
| NewDawn      | Ultores      | Howling Rain |
| RainbowS     | Conspiracy   | p3nguins     |
| Howling Rain | Faceless     | NewDawn      |
| Astatores    | NewDawn      | Conspiracy   |
| HEROES       | NewDawn      | Norsemen     |
----------------------------------------------

Incs per day:

| Day | From |  To  |  #  || Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|-----|------|------|-----||-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|   0 |    1 |    4 |   4 ||       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
|   1 |    5 |   28 |  24 ||       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
|   2 |   29 |   52 |  24 ||    21 |    33 |    44 |    27 |    20 |    57 |    37 |    38 |       |       |   131 |   408 |
|   3 |   53 |   76 |  24 ||    13 |    51 |    87 |    42 |    46 |    44 |    16 |    35 |       |     6 |   105 |   445 |
|   4 |   77 |  100 |  24 ||    37 |    46 |    72 |    72 |    32 |    73 |    32 |    29 |       |    15 |    68 |   476 |
|   5 |  101 |  124 |  24 ||     7 |    63 |    53 |    23 |    32 |    83 |    59 |    77 |     6 |    20 |    48 |   471 |
|   6 |  125 |  148 |  24 ||    21 |   121 |    40 |    64 |    49 |    73 |    46 |    46 |     1 |     3 |    68 |   532 |
|   7 |  149 |  172 |  24 ||    25 |    39 |    55 |    47 |    81 |    76 |   114 |    50 |     3 |     9 |    52 |   551 |
|   8 |  173 |  196 |  24 ||    31 |    55 |    92 |    79 |    69 |    64 |    26 |    23 |    25 |     8 |    49 |   521 |
|   9 |  197 |  220 |  24 ||    28 |    68 |    69 |    74 |    28 |    59 |    98 |    26 |     3 |    17 |    56 |   526 |
|  10 |  221 |  244 |  24 ||    17 |    82 |    72 |    46 |    45 |    78 |   123 |    41 |     3 |     6 |    52 |   565 |
|  11 |  245 |  268 |  24 ||    19 |    63 |    77 |    66 |    61 |   110 |    70 |    28 |     5 |    17 |    48 |   564 |
|  12 |  269 |  292 |  24 ||    36 |    76 |   115 |    46 |    49 |    58 |    88 |    75 |     6 |     1 |    55 |   605 |
|  13 |  293 |  316 |  24 ||    18 |    37 |   124 |    55 |   112 |    65 |    21 |    23 |     7 |     5 |    60 |   527 |
|  14 |  317 |  340 |  24 ||     2 |    94 |    14 |    79 |   153 |    15 |    19 |    53 |     7 |     8 |    66 |   510 |
|  15 |  341 |  364 |  24 ||    12 |    94 |    91 |   161 |    39 |    34 |    24 |    26 |     9 |    12 |    56 |   558 |
|  16 |  365 |  388 |  24 ||       |    15 |    42 |   125 |    70 |   120 |    60 |    69 |     5 |     7 |    61 |   574 |
|  17 |  389 |  412 |  24 ||     3 |    79 |    66 |    67 |    75 |    69 |    73 |    47 |     7 |    10 |    66 |   562 |
|  18 |  413 |  436 |  24 ||     3 |    32 |   114 |   102 |    50 |    59 |    76 |    90 |    23 |     7 |    37 |   593 |
|  19 |  437 |  460 |  24 ||     6 |    52 |    71 |   183 |     7 |    45 |    61 |    64 |    19 |    15 |    70 |   593 |
|  20 |  461 |  484 |  24 ||     1 |    74 |    36 |    87 |    29 |    83 |   119 |    35 |    15 |    18 |    69 |   566 |
|  21 |  485 |  508 |  24 ||     1 |    16 |    16 |   144 |    35 |    11 |    75 |   106 |    63 |    22 |    64 |   553 |
|  22 |  509 |  532 |  24 ||     1 |    33 |   159 |    93 |     3 |    17 |    84 |     8 |    80 |     5 |    54 |   537 |
|  23 |  533 |  556 |  24 ||     3 |    38 |   179 |    75 |     1 |    11 |    56 |    17 |    94 |     1 |    49 |   524 |
|  24 |  557 |  580 |  24 ||       |    21 |   214 |    73 |     3 |    15 |    81 |    24 |    13 |    19 |    70 |   533 |
|  25 |  581 |  604 |  24 ||     6 |    28 |   172 |    78 |    37 |     7 |    78 |    62 |     5 |     8 |    54 |   535 |
|  26 |  605 |  628 |  24 ||     4 |    21 |   299 |    91 |    15 |    19 |    35 |    28 |     3 |     8 |    24 |   547 |
|  27 |  629 |  652 |  24 ||     3 |     3 |   198 |    79 |     9 |    22 |    79 |    18 |     2 |    13 |    32 |   458 |
|  28 |  653 |  676 |  24 ||     1 |    15 |   208 |   100 |    24 |    11 |    67 |    12 |    31 |    30 |    39 |   538 |
|  29 |  677 |  700 |  24 ||     6 |    32 |   172 |    59 |     3 |    30 |    75 |    31 |    14 |    10 |    59 |   491 |
|  30 |  701 |  724 |  24 ||     1 |     5 |   219 |    73 |     4 |     8 |    21 |    35 |    11 |     2 |    55 |   434 |
|  31 |  725 |  748 |  24 ||     3 |    31 |   247 |    54 |     3 |     6 |    39 |    31 |     4 |     5 |    42 |   465 |
|  32 |  749 |  772 |  24 ||    17 |    95 |   326 |     8 |    14 |     6 |    12 |    10 |    11 |     3 |    59 |   561 |
|  33 |  773 |  796 |  24 ||     3 |    59 |   246 |    39 |    32 |     3 |    31 |    11 |     7 |     4 |    53 |   488 |
|  34 |  797 |  820 |  24 ||       |    16 |   240 |    10 |   136 |     9 |    17 |    14 |     9 |     6 |    34 |   491 |
|  35 |  821 |  844 |  24 ||     9 |    24 |   167 |    20 |   151 |    11 |    23 |    46 |    24 |     1 |    31 |   507 |
|  36 |  845 |  868 |  24 ||       |    19 |   102 |    10 |   160 |    17 |    31 |    80 |     8 |     1 |    21 |   449 |
|  37 |  869 |  892 |  24 ||       |    11 |   214 |     8 |   134 |    17 |    11 |    22 |    31 |     5 |    33 |   486 |
|  38 |  893 |  916 |  24 ||       |    11 |   156 |    17 |   161 |    13 |    28 |    63 |     6 |     4 |    85 |   544 |
|  39 |  917 |  940 |  24 ||     1 |    33 |   146 |    19 |    40 |   141 |    35 |    73 |     7 |     9 |    29 |   533 |
|  40 |  941 |  964 |  24 ||    39 |    14 |   167 |    13 |   179 |    37 |    15 |    34 |    10 |    10 |    34 |   552 |
|  41 |  965 |  988 |  24 ||     3 |   174 |   218 |    30 |    11 |     5 |    18 |    18 |     5 |    14 |    42 |   538 |
|  42 |  989 | 1012 |  24 ||     2 |   154 |   158 |     7 |    13 |    13 |    81 |    26 |     5 |    11 |    31 |   501 |
|  43 | 1013 | 1036 |  24 ||     2 |   173 |   120 |    10 |    20 |    15 |    93 |    16 |     1 |     3 |    86 |   539 |
|  44 | 1037 | 1060 |  24 ||     3 |   131 |   161 |    20 |    13 |     3 |    56 |    32 |     1 |     3 |    55 |   478 |
|  45 | 1061 | 1084 |  24 ||     1 |   178 |   207 |    14 |    49 |    20 |    11 |    34 |     4 |     1 |    25 |   544 |
|  46 | 1085 | 1108 |  24 ||     3 |    25 |   177 |     2 |    26 |   177 |    77 |    16 |     6 |    11 |    80 |   600 |
|  47 | 1109 | 1132 |  24 ||   107 |    57 |   236 |     9 |    21 |   143 |     4 |    14 |     2 |     2 |    42 |   637 |
|  48 | 1133 | 1156 |  24 ||    58 |    11 |   139 |   202 |    43 |     2 |     4 |    82 |     4 |       |    31 |   576 |
|  49 | 1157 | 1180 |  24 ||    14 |   160 |   251 |   171 |     8 |     4 |    70 |    13 |     2 |       |    70 |   763 |
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|                   Total ||   591 |  2762 |  6848 |  2973 |  2395 |  2058 |  2469 |  1851 |   607 |   395 |  2600 | 25549 |
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Most hostile fleets to:

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 7:6:1        |     7 |   108 |       |    39 |   106 |   119 |     1 |     4 |       |       |     6 |   390 |
| 3:1:6        |     3 |    70 |       |    51 |    38 |    49 |     1 |       |       |     3 |     2 |   217 |
| 4:3:5        |     8 |    19 |       |    38 |    55 |    88 |       |       |       |       |     5 |   213 |
| 7:6:5        |     3 |    70 |       |    27 |    59 |    45 |     1 |       |       |       |     3 |   208 |
| 7:2:4        |     1 |     5 |       |    68 |    80 |    48 |       |     5 |       |       |     1 |   208 |
| 3:1:1        |     7 |    50 |       |    38 |    50 |    48 |     2 |       |       |       |     4 |   199 |
| 3:10:7       |       |    56 |       |    17 |    33 |    90 |       |     1 |       |       |     2 |   199 |
| 4:3:2        |    14 |    16 |       |    12 |    72 |    66 |     1 |     1 |       |       |     5 |   187 |
| 6:2:3        |     5 |    14 |       |    52 |    55 |    52 |       |     7 |       |       |     1 |   186 |
| 6:2:5        |     8 |    37 |       |    44 |    42 |    46 |       |     5 |       |       |     4 |   186 |
| 2:10:6       |    39 |    66 |       |    13 |     9 |    52 |     1 |     1 |       |       |     2 |   183 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|

Incs to top 10 planets

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 7:9:8        |       |     5 |     4 |     5 |     8 |       |     1 |       |       |       |     6 |    29 |
| 4:8:8        |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 |     6 |
| 6:4:8        |       |     3 |     4 |     2 |    13 |       |    12 |       |       |       |       |    34 |
| 4:3:5        |     8 |    19 |       |    38 |    55 |    88 |       |       |       |       |     5 |   213 |
| 4:8:2        |     8 |       |    22 |    11 |       |     1 |    41 |       |     4 |     2 |     4 |    93 |
| 6:7:6        |     3 |       |    46 |     2 |       |    10 |    47 |     7 |     3 |     5 |     2 |   125 |
| 3:5:6        |    15 |     5 |    28 |       |     7 |       |    26 |     2 |     6 |     1 |       |    90 |
| 5:8:1        |       |       |    40 |     9 |       |     1 |    17 |    15 |     1 |     1 |     3 |    87 |
| 7:6:1        |     7 |   108 |       |    39 |   106 |   119 |     1 |     4 |       |       |     6 |   390 |
| 2:9:4        |    10 |       |     2 |    12 |     3 |       |     2 |    10 |     1 |       |       |    40 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|

Incs to top 5 galaxies

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 4:8          |    15 |    32 |   109 |    75 |     8 |    22 |   245 |     9 |    12 |     9 |    37 |   573 |
| 3:1          |    48 |   176 |   109 |   205 |   188 |   162 |    13 |    10 |    14 |     8 |    33 |   966 |
| 1:7          |    22 |    36 |   195 |    18 |    18 |    23 |   120 |     4 |    26 |     6 |    40 |   508 |
| 4:3          |    55 |    93 |    28 |    87 |   286 |   288 |    78 |     6 |     8 |     1 |    33 |   963 |
| 6:2          |    46 |   100 |    67 |   150 |   158 |   163 |    29 |    36 |     5 |     1 |    16 |   771 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|

Stats for the first half of the round: Day 0 - 25: 1 - 604: 604 ticks

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Norsemen     |       |    31 |    67 |    59 |    26 |    47 |    86 |    13 |     6 |    31 |    42 |   408 |
| Faceless     |    68 |       |   332 |   196 |    56 |   136 |    58 |   224 |    30 |    38 |    50 |  1188 |
| Ultores      |   181 |   668 |       |   191 |   355 |   414 |    59 |   124 |       |    11 |    80 |  2083 |
| Conspiracy   |   202 |   210 |   217 |       |   294 |    49 |   619 |    79 |    23 |    55 |   148 |  1896 |
| p3nguins     |   142 |    43 |    42 |   290 |       |   128 |   136 |   134 |     7 |    17 |    59 |   998 |
| NewDawn      |    19 |   149 |   423 |    43 |   119 |       |   266 |    95 |    60 |    35 |   155 |  1364 |
| RainbowS     |    91 |    72 |    32 |   627 |   157 |   333 |       |    49 |     5 |    19 |    53 |  1438 |
| Howling Rain |     8 |   265 |   115 |   129 |   148 |   188 |    84 |       |    14 |     9 |    62 |  1022 |
| Astatores    |    22 |    39 |     3 |    29 |    36 |   141 |    14 |    29 |       |     1 |    12 |   326 |
| HEROES       |    22 |    21 |    11 |    13 |    21 |    89 |    32 |     9 |       |       |    20 |   238 |
| Other        |   147 |   187 |   207 |   220 |   182 |   397 |   137 |   115 |    40 |    36 |   154 |  1822 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |   902 |  1685 |  1449 |  1797 |  1394 |  1922 |  1491 |   871 |   185 |   252 |   835 | 12783 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

Stats for the second half of the round: Day 26 - 49: 605 - 1177: 573 ticks

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Norsemen     |       |   108 |     2 |    13 |    99 |     9 |    47 |     3 |       |     5 |    47 |   333 |
| Faceless     |   134 |       |   530 |     1 |     1 |       |   323 |   275 |    63 |    19 |    64 |  1410 |
| Ultores      |    55 |   651 |       |  1003 |  1375 |  1483 |    42 |     8 |     1 |       |   119 |  4737 |
| Conspiracy   |    14 |     6 |   240 |       |    16 |     7 |   491 |   128 |    35 |     6 |   128 |  1071 |
| p3nguins     |   123 |       |   299 |    10 |       |     1 |   338 |   222 |    39 |    11 |    71 |  1114 |
| NewDawn      |     7 |       |   339 |     2 |     5 |       |     8 |   222 |    55 |    13 |    76 |   727 |
| RainbowS     |    54 |   166 |    64 |   367 |   209 |     6 |       |    17 |     6 |    15 |    65 |   969 |
| Howling Rain |     8 |   172 |       |   149 |    98 |   218 |    17 |       |     7 |       |    66 |   735 |
| Astatores    |    41 |     5 |       |    11 |     5 |    61 |     2 |    13 |       |       |    27 |   165 |
| HEROES       |    77 |     1 |       |     1 |     7 |    25 |    23 |    11 |     1 |       |    12 |   158 |
| Other        |   209 |    74 |   113 |   122 |   123 |   109 |   129 |    77 |    42 |    10 |   290 |  1298 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |   722 |  1183 |  1587 |  1679 |  1938 |  1919 |  1420 |   976 |   249 |    79 |   965 | 12717 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

If anyone wants these stats for a particular tick period then feel free to PM me..

[Bazza[RB]]

Very interesting - Thanks for that Bram

[Mzyxptlk]

I'm blown away by the amount of incoming Ultores got:

| Round | Name         | Members | Incs | Days | Incs/Member | Incs/Day/Member |
|-------+--------------+---------+------+------+-------------+-----------------|
| r65   | Ultores      |      60 | 6887 |   49 |       114.8 |            2.34 |
| r16   | 1up          |      55 | 5088 |   55 |        92.5 |            1.68 |
| r57   | Ultores      |      60 | 4948 |   49 |        82.5 |            1.68 |
| r26   | OldskooL     |      54 | 4339 |   49 |        80.4 |            1.64 |
| r30   | Ascendancy   |     106 | 8497 |   49 |        80.2 |            1.64 |
| r64   | Ultores      |      60 | 4795 |   49 |        79.9 |            1.63 |
| r59   | p3nguins     |      60 | 4721 |   49 |        78.7 |            1.61 |
| r50   | Apprime      |      43 | 3366 |   49 |        78.3 |            1.60 |
| r40   | Apprime      |      74 | 5734 |   49 |        77.5 |            1.58 |
| r49   | Ultores      |      57 | 4356 |   49 |        76.4 |            1.56 |
| r19   | eXilition    |      64 | 6253 |   63 |        97.7 |            1.55 |
| r16   | Ascendancy   |      47 | 3885 |   55 |        82.7 |            1.50 |
| r17   | Omen         |      60 | 5031 |   56 |        83.8 |            1.50 |
| r15   | eXilition    |      80 | 6406 |   56 |        80.1 |            1.43 |
| r30   | DLR          |      18 | 1752 |   70 |        97.3 |            1.39 |
| r15   | Angels       |      80 | 5864 |   56 |        73.3 |            1.31 |
| r19   | Furious Omen |      77 | 6066 |   63 |        78.8 |            1.25 |
| r14   | NewDawn      |      89 | 6653 |   70 |        74.8 |            1.07 |
| r30   | Conspiracy   |      90 | 6379 |   70 |        70.9 |            1.01 |
| r30   | Omen         |      92 | 6055 |   70 |        65.8 |            0.94 |
| r14   | 1up          |     100 | 6519 |   70 |        65.2 |            0.93 |
|-------+--------------+---------+------+------+-------------+-----------------|

That's a merger of 3 top 10s: absolute incs, incs/member and incs/member/tick.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

I'm blown away by the amount of incoming Ultores got:

| Round | Alliance     | Incs | Days | Members | Incs/Day | Incs/Day/Member |
|-------+--------------+------+------+---------+----------+-----------------|
|    65 | Ultores      | 6875 |   49 |      60 |   140.31 |            2.34 |
|    19 | Exilition    | 6253 |   63 |      64 |    99.25 |            1.55 |
|    15 | eXilition    | 6406 |   56 |      80 |   114.39 |            1.43 |
|    15 | Angels       | 5864 |   56 |      80 |   104.71 |            1.31 |
|    19 | Furious Omen | 6066 |   63 |      77 |    96.29 |            1.25 |
|    30 | Ascendancy   | 8497 |   70 |     106 |   121.39 |            1.15 |
|    14 | NewDawn      | 6653 |   70 |      89 |    95.04 |            1.07 |
|    30 | Conspiracy   | 6379 |   70 |      90 |    91.13 |            1.01 |
|    30 | Omen         | 6055 |   70 |      92 |    86.50 |            0.94 |
|    14 | 1up          | 6519 |   70 |     100 |    93.13 |            0.93 |
|-------+--------------+------+------+---------+----------+-----------------|

Im blown away that they arnt further down the rankings, i knew the incs was more or less gonna be huge.
The PA crew seriously need to reconsider the tag limit + scoring, unless, like Krypton/RexDrax what has been fronting, this round will become representative of PA.

[Krypton]

Erm, What?

[Kaiba]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Im blown away that they arnt further down the rankings, i knew the incs was more or less gonna be huge.
The PA crew seriously need to reconsider the tag limit + scoring, unless, like Krypton/RexDrax what has been fronting, this round will become representative of PA.

Care to elaborate?

I guess people will pick parts of these stats and use them for whatever agenda they have.

Imo you had 4 alliances in with a shout on the final day, loads of reason to stay active till the final ticks for the majority of players and genuine excitement at the end. I can't see any reason to ever raise the tag limit again.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Kaiba

Care to elaborate?

I guess people will pick parts of these stats and use them for whatever agenda they have.

Imo you had 4 alliances in with a shout on the final day, loads of reason to stay active till the final ticks for the majority of players and genuine excitement at the end. I can't see any reason to ever raise the tag limit again.

My agenda is that the best alliances arnt ranked #1-2-3
If it wasnt FL losing too this "loser" strategy i would make a lot noise about it.
Krypton/RexDrax is trying to make this what PA will look like every round, and should be reported/banned by every user in here wich cares for PA.
There is something rotting in PA, and id say wich "group" was the next victim, but id rather not.

[Kaiba]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

My agenda is that the best alliances arnt ranked #1-2-3
If it wasnt FL losing too this "loser" strategy i would make a lot noise about it.
Krypton/RexDrax is trying to make this what PA will look like every round, and should be reported/banned by every user in here wich cares for PA.
There is something rotting in PA, and id say wich "group" was the next victim, but id rather not.

No come on, cards on the table time.

If the best alliances were ranked 1-2-3 then no one except Ult would win and that would be boring now wouldn't it.

Instead of hinting at some large conspiracy and calling for bans to people who purely voice an opinion (rarely might I add) how about you actually say everything you want to, inform us all in detail of this big evil that threatens the very structure of the game. We the masses need to be let in on this secret that you have gleamed info on.

If you can't do this maybe it's time you gave up crowing on about things you have no facts to back up. Nearly everybody in this game wants what is best for it and although other people's opinions may differ on how to do that I believe we all appreciate everyone else's intentions are pure.

You on the other hand I don't get that feeling about. You seem hell bent on taking the game back to pre PAX even tho the memberbase is nowhere big enough to play in that environment anymore. Sometimes it's good to understand that not every idea you have is what is best for the game and although we appreciate that you have ideas we don't need them rammed down our throats in the face of mounting contradictory logic.


TL;DR. Spill the beans or cease posting, we're bored of teasers now

[Krypton]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

My agenda is that the best alliances arnt ranked #1-2-3
If it wasnt FL losing too this "loser" strategy i would make a lot noise about it.
Krypton/RexDrax is trying to make this what PA will look like every round, and should be reported/banned by every user in here wich cares for PA.
There is something rotting in PA, and id say wich "group" was the next victim, but id rather not.

Stop mentioning my name, seriously. I dont talk to you and i wont talk to you.

The assumption you know everything, that you are so blindsided by hate and stupidity is astounding.

[RexDrax]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

My agenda is that the best alliances arnt ranked #1-2-3
If it wasnt FL losing too this "loser" strategy i would make a lot noise about it.
Krypton/RexDrax is trying to make this what PA will look like every round, and should be reported/banned by every user in here wich cares for PA.
There is something rotting in PA, and id say wich "group" was the next victim, but id rather not.

Ahem... WHAT?

This round probably has been 1 of the better rounds. From tick 700 onward there were 5 potential alliances that could win the game; norse, fl, ult, ct, pen. The winner was not decided till very late in the game with either norse, fl or ult taking the win depending on how much they can XP.

#1 and #2 were separated by about 300k. #1 to #3 was just under 5mill. Yes I would love to see more rounds where it came down to the wire. Yeah ult had major incomings compared to other alliances this round and also compared to previous round incomings. They still did really well and should be congratulated on sticking to the game and being so much better than other alliances this round. They are the standard to beat at the moment and have been for several rounds. I dont think anyone (except probably you) can argue the fact that they are 1 of the best alliances in PA history (note I said 1 of the best since its very subjective who is over the last 60+ rounds)

You are probably talking about the tag limit and such. Just to make sure you understand my view since you have a habit of selective reading and convoluting peoples statement to fit you agenda and whatever else goes on in your head. My view is that with the current player base the tag limit should not be increased. With a tag limit increase it will substantially decrease the number of alliances that can realistically go for the win.

Hypothetically speaking, if the tag/counting score limit was 50, norse would either have to recruit 10+ more members in order to compete with alliances that are full tag. Keeping it at a lower limit means they have the chance to go for the win and I like seeing more alliances having the potential for the win. The potential for more politics and war increases with more potential winners.

If PA had 700+ players playing then I can see the argument for a greater tag limit but the way it currently stands I am not in favor of a tag limit increase.

[booji]

All credit to ult, amazing stats.

P3n's on the other hand were unusually dire - even beaten on attacks.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by booji

All credit to ult, amazing stats.

P3n's on the other hand were unusually dire - even beaten on attacks.

p3ng has actualy been stepping it up in many parts of the game.
More attack fleets, less incomming fleets, bigger block, and not to be forgotten, having the stats god being ex p3ng.
If they keep this up they might win a round within the next 10-20 rounds.

[fortran]

Ultores was amazing. Fl, P3ng and CT played more or less at the same level. Tht disparity worked against Ult.

[Willzzz]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

p3ng has actualy been stepping it up in many parts of the game.
More attack fleets, less incomming fleets, bigger block, and not to be forgotten, having the stats god being ex p3ng.
If they keep this up they might win a round within the next 10-20 rounds.

P3nguins usually gets top fleet attacking activity and has won 2 rounds back to back previously. Hence why booji was shocked. Just to give you a usual history lesson as your blatant bias toward p3nguins is rather annoying (during those 2 wins we also had most incoming for anyone that cares)

[Recluse]

I think some appreciation should also be given to the fact that Ult had the highest percentage of inc recalled as well, 65%.

[Kaiba]

Also how did 4:8:8 only get 6 incs and not win?

[Advantix]

Originally Posted by Kaiba

Also how did 4:8:8 only get 6 incs and not win?

Cause Norse also had #1 planet. Who had more roids for a longer period of time.

[booji]

I have a question on the alliance stats (on beta rather than bram's):
I have always assumed that 'Alliance defence' and 'Galaxy defence' is the number of defence fleets received from other planets in that alliance and from in galaxy. Is this the case? Presumably then 'Total defence' then is like 'total attacks' the number that alliance sent out.

If it is then I dont understand some of the stats: How can Ult have 4,025 alliance defence and only 3,531 total defence? Does total defence not include defences sent ingalaxy? If so why as at first glance it does not make much sense to do this!

N.B. just mentioning ult as theirs are most out of sync. Astatores are out of sync the other way around but this seems much more understandable as it simply means they sent a lot of defence to their allies or ingal. My comprehension problem is with how ult def fleets can disappear!

[Bram]

Originally Posted by booji

I have a question on the alliance stats (on beta rather than bram's):
I have always assumed that 'Alliance defence' and 'Galaxy defence' is the number of defence fleets received from other planets in that alliance and from in galaxy. Is this the case? Presumably then 'Total defence' then is like 'total attacks' the number that alliance sent out.

I think that question was asked before but can't easily find the answer to it..

Using data I got and:

• alliance = alliance the planet was in at end of round
• all fleets included - even those landing after round end

results in the following numbers for Ultores:

• Total defence fleets launched by Ultores: 4587
  • Def fleets to Ultores planets: 3983
  • Def fleets to another alliance: 604
• Total defence fleets received by Ultores: 5915
  • Def fleets from Ultores planets: 3983
  • Def fleets from another alliance: 1932
• Total galaxy defence fleets launched by Ultores: 1336
  • Def fleets to Ultores planets: 882
  • Def fleets to another alliance: 454
• Total galaxy defence fleets received by Ultores: 1891
  • Def fleets from Ultores planets: 882
  • Def fleets from another alliance: 1099
• Total non galaxy defence fleets launched by Ultores: 3251
  • Def fleets to Ultores planets: 3101
  • Def fleets to another alliance: 150
• Total non galaxy defence fleets received by Ultores: 4024
  • Def fleets from Ultores planets: 3101
  • Def fleets from another alliance: 923

So to answer your question: the number:

• 'Alliance defence' = non galaxy defence fleets received by an alliance (ignoring who send the defence fleet)
• 'Galaxy Defence' = galaxy defence fleets received by an alliance (ignoring who send the defence fleet)
• 'Total defence' = no idea...

Full stats based on:

• alliance = alliance the planet was in when the fleet launched
• only fleets with landing tick <= 1177

NOTE: this is a different counting method so numbes above will not match numbers below !

All def fleets

Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1177: 1177 ticks

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Norsemen     |   484 |    19 |    20 |     8 |    19 |     4 |     8 |    11 |     3 |     1 |    16 |   593 |
| Faceless     |    94 |  2715 |    12 |    18 |    50 |    43 |    27 |    50 |     1 |    27 |    65 |  3102 |
| Ultores      |   166 |    44 |  4069 |    75 |    70 |    32 |   314 |    41 |   853 |    69 |   242 |  5975 |
| Conspiracy   |    47 |    44 |    57 |  2478 |    61 |    32 |    31 |    71 |    25 |     5 |    78 |  2929 |
| p3nguins     |    68 |    35 |    27 |    14 |  2041 |    41 |    18 |    28 |     5 |     3 |    49 |  2329 |
| NewDawn      |    33 |    94 |    14 |    38 |    48 |  1596 |    45 |    22 |     4 |       |    95 |  1989 |
| RainbowS     |    38 |    37 |   114 |    31 |    37 |    34 |  2897 |    30 |    26 |    19 |   171 |  3434 |
| Howling Rain |    65 |    62 |    33 |    64 |    59 |    33 |    48 |  1376 |     5 |    15 |   106 |  1866 |
| Astatores    |    12 |    10 |   134 |    29 |    34 |     8 |    10 |     5 |   126 |     5 |    22 |   395 |
| HEROES       |    19 |     8 |    33 |    13 |     6 |     2 |    19 |     8 |     5 |    44 |    52 |   209 |
| Other        |    94 |    62 |    84 |    77 |    76 |    99 |   161 |    84 |    20 |     8 |   369 |  1134 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  1120 |  3130 |  4597 |  2845 |  2501 |  1924 |  3578 |  1726 |  1073 |   196 |  1265 | 23955 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

Galaxy def fleets

Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1177: 1177 ticks

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Norsemen     |    36 |    19 |    20 |     8 |    19 |     4 |     8 |    11 |     3 |     1 |    16 |   145 |
| Faceless     |    94 |   373 |    12 |    18 |    49 |    43 |    27 |    50 |     1 |    27 |    65 |   759 |
| Ultores      |   166 |    44 |   881 |    75 |    70 |    32 |   209 |    41 |   171 |    58 |   148 |  1895 |
| Conspiracy   |    47 |    44 |    57 |   477 |    61 |    31 |    31 |    71 |    25 |     5 |    75 |   924 |
| p3nguins     |    68 |    34 |    27 |    14 |   432 |    41 |    18 |    28 |     5 |     3 |    49 |   719 |
| NewDawn      |    33 |    94 |    14 |    33 |    48 |   265 |    45 |    22 |     4 |       |    95 |   653 |
| RainbowS     |    38 |    37 |    62 |    31 |    37 |    34 |   463 |    30 |     4 |    19 |   151 |   906 |
| Howling Rain |    65 |    62 |    33 |    64 |    59 |    33 |    48 |   110 |     5 |    15 |   106 |   600 |
| Astatores    |    12 |    10 |   104 |    29 |    34 |     8 |    10 |     5 |     3 |     5 |    22 |   242 |
| HEROES       |    19 |     8 |    30 |    13 |     6 |     2 |    19 |     8 |     5 |     8 |    52 |   170 |
| Other        |    88 |    59 |    73 |    76 |    75 |    96 |   154 |    83 |    18 |     8 |   305 |  1035 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |   666 |   784 |  1313 |   838 |   890 |   589 |  1032 |   459 |   244 |   149 |  1084 |  8048 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

Non galaxy def fleets

Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1177: 1177 ticks

| To \ From    | Norse | Face  | Ult   | CT    | p3n   | ND    | RB    | HR    | AS    | HERO  | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Norsemen     |   448 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   448 |
| Faceless     |       |  2342 |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |  2343 |
| Ultores      |       |       |  3188 |       |       |       |   105 |       |   682 |    11 |    94 |  4080 |
| Conspiracy   |       |       |       |  2001 |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |     3 |  2005 |
| p3nguins     |       |     1 |       |       |  1609 |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1610 |
| NewDawn      |       |       |       |     5 |       |  1331 |       |       |       |       |       |  1336 |
| RainbowS     |       |       |    52 |       |       |       |  2434 |       |    22 |       |    20 |  2528 |
| Howling Rain |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1266 |       |       |       |  1266 |
| Astatores    |       |       |    30 |       |       |       |       |       |   123 |       |       |   153 |
| HEROES       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       |       |       |    36 |       |    39 |
| Other        |     6 |     3 |    11 |     1 |     1 |     3 |     7 |     1 |     2 |       |    64 |    99 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |   454 |  2346 |  3284 |  2007 |  1611 |  1335 |  2546 |  1267 |   829 |    47 |   181 | 15907 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

[darkzidane]

Originally Posted by booji

I have a question on the alliance stats (on beta rather than bram's):
I have always assumed that 'Alliance defence' and 'Galaxy defence' is the number of defence fleets received from other planets in that alliance and from in galaxy. Is this the case? Presumably then 'Total defence' then is like 'total attacks' the number that alliance sent out.

If it is then I dont understand some of the stats: How can Ult have 4,025 alliance defence and only 3,531 total defence? Does total defence not include defences sent ingalaxy? If so why as at first glance it does not make much sense to do this!

N.B. just mentioning ult as theirs are most out of sync. Astatores are out of sync the other way around but this seems much more understandable as it simply means they sent a lot of defence to their allies or ingal. My comprehension problem is with how ult def fleets can disappear!

It's simple tbh, not only do our block help us but we also help them. On a few occasions I personally sent def to bows (hence my poor sylph never returned )

[booji]

Your sending defence to bows would cause the same phenomenon as Astatores has not the one ult has.

But to take your gist you are saying alliance defence includes fleets sent in by other alliances? All defence fleets sent to your alliance at higher than galaxy eta?

Originally Posted by Bram

So to answer your question: the number:

• 'Alliance defence' = non galaxy defence fleets received by an alliance (ignoring who send the defence fleet)
• 'Galaxy Defence' = galaxy defence fleets received by an alliance (ignoring who send the defence fleet)
• 'Total defence' = no idea...

Thanks for the help

[Bram]

Originally Posted by booji

But to take your gist you are saying alliance defence includes fleets sent in by other alliances? All defence fleets sent to your alliance at higher than galaxy eta?

That is what matches the numbers...

[[DDK]gm]

All credit to ult to have members who would be so active in defense for such a long time, i mean those players who are ex ct, nd, p3ng etc have really put their lives on hold since quitting our alliances to be so active.

Oh by the way I was being sarcastic.

We all know that the use of teamviewer is rife in Ultores and is a requirement, each BP has a fleet controller to manage sending defense for that gal. Don't bother denying it, remember those people used to be in our alliances and some do talk!

[M0RPH3US]

how dare you gm, obviously its all skills and dedication - else the Multihunters would ofc have allready acted upon such a behavior!

Oh right, now me beeing sarcastic....

[Wouter]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

All credit to ult to have members who would be so active in defense for such a long time, i mean those players who are ex ct, nd, p3ng etc have really put their lives on hold since quitting our alliances to be so active.

Oh by the way I was being sarcastic.

We all know that the use of teamviewer is rife in Ultores and is a requirement, each BP has a fleet controller to manage sending defense for that gal. Don't bother denying it, remember those people used to be in our alliances and some do talk!

What EX CT's do we have? I guess we just spamcall people awake for the show of it.

[[DDK]gm]

Originally Posted by Wouter

What EX CT's do we have?

CT is 9 years old, most of ultores have been CT members, including you!

[darkzidane]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

All credit to ult to have members who would be so active in defense for such a long time, i mean those players who are ex ct, nd, p3ng etc have really put their lives on hold since quitting our alliances to be so active.

Oh by the way I was being sarcastic.

We all know that the use of teamviewer is rife in Ultores and is a requirement, each BP has a fleet controller to manage sending defense for that gal. Don't bother denying it, remember those people used to be in our alliances and some do talk!

Oh shit I missed a memo?!? Ehm wtf is team viewer? Guess I should be using it to make my gal better?
You seem to know a lot about it so maybe you could teach me sometime? Would be much appreciated cause then I can sleep and not get woken up by DCs.

Oh btw I'm not being sarcastic

Ok maybe a little

[Krypton]

Originally Posted by darkzidane

Oh shit I missed a memo?!? Ehm wtf is team viewer? Guess I should be using it to make my gal better?
You seem to know a lot about it so maybe you could teach me sometime? Would be much appreciated cause then I can sleep and not get woken up by DCs.

Oh btw I'm not being sarcastic

Ok maybe a little

Teamviewer is a software program that enables you to see and takeover another person's computer screen. I use it for business purposes.

You're welcome!

[darkzidane]

Originally Posted by Krypton

Teamviewer is a software program that enables you to see and takeover another person's computer screen. I use it for business purposes.

You're welcome!

Ahh thank you.
But this means I would need to leave my pc on? That cost money in electricity and being a full time pa player doesn't pay that well

[DrunkenViking]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

We all know that the use of teamviewer is rife in Ultores and is a requirement, each BP has a fleet controller to manage sending defense for that gal. Don't bother denying it, remember those people used to be in our alliances and some do talk!

Disgusting, and denied. If that was accurate I wouldn't be in ult.

[fortran]

If teamviewer was that common in Ult, brazzies there would be using it. And I am sure they don't.

Or people really think all brazzies in Ult are joseph's accounts and didnt find it necessary to present him this tool.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by DrunkenViking

Disgusting, and denied. If that was accurate I wouldn't be in ult.

Then you will be leaving ult?
Ult got cheaters, not unlikely more than others.
Aint CarDinal ult?

[darkzidane]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Then you will be leaving ult?
Ult got cheaters, not unlikely more than others.
Aint CarDinal ult?

Shows how out of the loop you are. CarDi got kicked before the half way point last round iirc

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by darkzidane

Shows how out of the loop you are. CarDi got kicked before the half way point last round iirc

I havnt claimed to be "in the loop", it was just a question.
Thank you for answering it

[Knight]

Chill out lads it's just a dying online game, no need to get all aggy. Gm I'm not sure why u think team viewer is so often used in ult? I control my alter ego Dealer using splashtop I'll have you know!

Agar3s let's just disband ult so that all 200 people can go back to enjoying the last few soul destroying and sleep depriving rounds

[eksero]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

All credit to ult to have members who would be so active in defense for such a long time, i mean those players who are ex ct, nd, p3ng etc have really put their lives on hold since quitting our alliances to be so active.

Oh by the way I was being sarcastic.

We all know that the use of teamviewer is rife in Ultores and is a requirement, each BP has a fleet controller to manage sending defense for that gal. Don't bother denying it, remember those people used to be in our alliances and some do talk!

Maybe these players put in the extra effort now that they see there's others in the alliance doing the same.

I'm not sure what you've been told, but there is no form for cheating going on. Feel free to pm me who you think are cheating though!

[[DDK]gm]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

We all know that the use of teamviewer is rife in Ultores and is a requirement, each BP has a fleet controller to manage sending defense for that gal.

I should clarify this and word it better...

We all know that the use of TeamViewer etc is rife in Ultores.

I get told that it is a requirement that each BP/Fort has an uber active DC for that fort.

There is evidence out there where those forts use TeamViewer to manage defense.

I have also received reports of certain people in command using TeamViewer.

My problem is the people who give such information may themselves not be cheaters, they don't wish to be kicked for leaking such info.

This is not the first time I have accused an alliance of cheating and I don't do so lightly.

What I would say is someone accused of cheating, certainly in the past would respectfully deny the accusations and request proof of the allegations.

Ultores in its response has gone full out offense and anger mode which indicates that we are onto something.

My question is, if we did provide evidence or burn those who gave us info, what would happen? Would the members leaking the info be kicked? would the members cheating be kicked? would the HC involved step down?

I suspect that even with evidence provided, the matter would be swept under the rug and nothing would change.

Again, i'm not saying all Ultores members are cheating but you are associating yourselves with those who are doing so.

Anyway, this is my opinion, formulated on reports from others, not one single source. I have a right to my opinion and a right to express it, however wrong you may wish it is!

[eksero]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

I should clarify this and word it better...

We all know that the use of TeamViewer etc is rife in Ultores.

I get told that it is a requirement that each BP/Fort has an uber active DC for that fort.

There is evidence out there where those forts use TeamViewer to manage defense.

I have also received reports of certain people in command using TeamViewer.

My problem is the people who give such information may themselves not be cheaters, they don't wish to be kicked for leaking such info.

This is not the first time I have accused an alliance of cheating and I don't do so lightly.

What I would say is someone accused of cheating, certainly in the past would respectfully deny the accusations and request proof of the allegations.

Ultores in its response has gone full out offense and anger mode which indicates that we are onto something.

My question is, if we did provide evidence or burn those who gave us info, what would happen? Would the members leaking the info be kicked? would the members cheating be kicked? would the HC involved step down?

I suspect that even with evidence provided, the matter would be swept under the rug and nothing would change.

Again, i'm not saying all Ultores members are cheating but you are associating yourselves with those who are doing so.

Anyway, this is my opinion, formulated on reports from others, not one single source. I have a right to my opinion and a right to express it, however wrong you may wish it is!

What did you think was gonna happen when you "yo pals, ultores are cheating and I have proof, but I'm not gonna show said proof to anyone"?

I find it very hard to believe you have any proof of any cheating, but if you I encourage you to make it public for everyone to see.

If you're not gonna do that then I'd appreciate it if you stopped this crap

[Wouter]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

I should clarify this and word it better...

We all know that the use of TeamViewer etc is rife in Ultores.

I get told that it is a requirement that each BP/Fort has an uber active DC for that fort.

There is evidence out there where those forts use TeamViewer to manage defense.

I have also received reports of certain people in command using TeamViewer.

My problem is the people who give such information may themselves not be cheaters, they don't wish to be kicked for leaking such info.

This is not the first time I have accused an alliance of cheating and I don't do so lightly.

What I would say is someone accused of cheating, certainly in the past would respectfully deny the accusations and request proof of the allegations.

Ultores in its response has gone full out offense and anger mode which indicates that we are onto something.

My question is, if we did provide evidence or burn those who gave us info, what would happen? Would the members leaking the info be kicked? would the members cheating be kicked? would the HC involved step down?

I suspect that even with evidence provided, the matter would be swept under the rug and nothing would change.

Again, i'm not saying all Ultores members are cheating but you are associating yourselves with those who are doing so.

Anyway, this is my opinion, formulated on reports from others, not one single source. I have a right to my opinion and a right to express it, however wrong you may wish it is!

You talk about having evidence and refusing to share it, you are trying to hit our memberbase with lies. All you do is make them angry though.

Also why does everyone in this topic keep pretending to have life experience to judge the reaction from someone. None of you come up with a clever way of using it. You try to sound smarter by using it. Atleast try to use guidelines from somewhere that would indicate your reasoning is correct.

No one in their right mind will let you attack them, you are trying to discredit Ult and it is obvious that Ult would react. Furthermore you said in a PM to Chimpie that 50% of the active Ult HC team uses teamviewer, you state you have evidence of it. Yet you can not provide it.

I know you can not provide it cause it simply isnt true, since you talk about defense fleets and command you put it down on 2 HC members that could acces the program. 1 that DC's from work 5/7 days in the week and that dc's through his iphone/ipad. No idea if teamviewer works on mac. But for someone reason I dont think controlling an alliance on your iphone/ipad is something possible to do. The other HC is me personally, ofcourse I will defend myself when you try and call me a cheater. You can have no evidence of something I do NOT do. Its quite pathetic.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by fortran

Clarification required.

Scans cost resources. Look at the Will's last day. Figure it out.

[fortran]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Scans cost resources. Look at the Will's last day. Figure it out.

I see. As he was beating "Migi" every round I thought he was the same case.

[Clouds]

I find it amusing how some of you guys resort to insults to put forward your arguments. When one uses insults in an 'intelligent' debate, it is usually a sign of low level intelligence.

[Wouter]

Originally Posted by Clouds

I find it amusing how some of you guys resort to insults to put forward your arguments. When one uses insults in an 'intelligent' debate, it is usually a sign of low level intelligence.

No buddy, it is not. Most likely you just miss the high level insults coming at you.

[Krypton]

For the record, I do not think Ultores uses such software programs, because i don't see how someone can go through this much effort to come 3rd.

[[DDK]gm]

Its funny, all the accusations of ult cheating that goes around and nothing. When I say it there is mass emo by agar3s and chimpie and ultores declares war on CT for next round. Accusing me of fabricating proof.

I have not provided any proof, i have stated what I heard from multiple sources and have since been given info in support of my statement. I cannot provide any of the info to Ultores or you guys as it would be unfair to those who have confided in me.

If someone wants to come clean about things then feel free. If not then what I have said will remain to be my opinion and not fact.

If Ultores wants to war CT due to me believing they cheat then fine.

If anyone else thinks that Ultores cheats then they can join us in the fight.

[Munkee]

Spiderpig army!!!

[Wouter]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

Its funny, all the accusations of ult cheating that goes around and nothing. When I say it there is mass emo by agar3s and chimpie and ultores declares war on CT for next round. Accusing me of fabricating proof.

I have not provided any proof, i have stated what I heard from multiple sources and have since been given info in support of my statement. I cannot provide any of the info to Ultores or you guys as it would be unfair to those who have confided in me.

If someone wants to come clean about things then feel free. If not then what I have said will remain to be my opinion and not fact.

If Ultores wants to war CT due to me believing they cheat then fine.

If anyone else thinks that Ultores cheats then they can join us in the fight.

The fact that you make up sources is quite pathetic. Nothing will protect you from what is coming though and lets be honest, there is no need to pretend like this is the cause that you made your next block already.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

Its funny, all the accusations of ult cheating that goes around and nothing. When I say it there is mass emo by agar3s and chimpie and ultores declares war on CT for next round. Accusing me of fabricating proof.

I have not provided any proof, i have stated what I heard from multiple sources and have since been given info in support of my statement. I cannot provide any of the info to Ultores or you guys as it would be unfair to those who have confided in me.

If someone wants to come clean about things then feel free. If not then what I have said will remain to be my opinion and not fact.

If Ultores wants to war CT due to me believing they cheat then fine.

If anyone else thinks that Ultores cheats then they can join us in the fight.

Aint CT themself accepting the cheaters that has been denied elsewhere?

You should clean up your own house before, like myselg, take the moral high ground

[[DDK]gm]

who do you mean?

[galla]

I am a former CT member, till today I was a proud former CT member. The accusations made not only reflect on CT but on me as a former CT member. If you accuse Ult then you accuse me and that is beyond the pale. GM, come and play a round in Ult, I trust you to play with honor and not feed CT info, and u will play like a real player.