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20 Nov 2017, 00:17
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The evil stats guy
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Stats Xmas round 2017
It dawned on me that this round is fast approaching its end and that we'll have our tradional xmas round and we need stats for it.
I made a basic layout without AC/DC/EMP in it to show where i see the xmas set heading. As mentioned in the past, we'll be doing an all ETD set for this xmas round.
You can see the stats here.
Bcalc available here.
Any ideas, suggestions, comments welcome. I'll probably finish the set this comming weekend with AC/DC/EMP and process any useful feedback into it unless someone comes up with a better proposal.
Last edited by Jintao; 28 Nov 2017 at 15:54.
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20 Nov 2017, 18:28
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Is this based on current race stats? Research bonus etc?
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20 Nov 2017, 21:06
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
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Originally Posted by Shhhhhhh
Is this based on current race stats? Research bonus etc?
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Good question, might have to consider looking at those and maybe updating those for this round
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20 Nov 2017, 21:40
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The brother of Spammer
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
looks decent will be interested to see AC DC and EMP.
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21 Nov 2017, 04:13
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
They look fairly balanced at first glance, though all 3 races can build their 4 attack ships to cover all the bases. Whether the off class ships are worth building (for most planets) will depend on their effs.
Will the new quests be available as well?
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21 Nov 2017, 09:13
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
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Originally Posted by Patrikc
They look fairly balanced at first glance, though all 3 races can build their 4 attack ships to cover all the bases. Whether the off class ships are worth building (for most planets) will depend on their effs.
Will the new quests be available as well?
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The quests will normally be setup as they were for this round. For the next full round a review will be done and i'm sure some quests/rewareds will be updated/tweaked. Which is not abnormal given the high amount of new quests we received.
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21 Nov 2017, 05:20
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Great question. Will we see the general setup of quests or sonething different?
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27 Nov 2017, 16:52
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
EMP has been set
AC DC has been set
Costs have been set
To do:
Decide what to do with base eta
Look at racial bonuses
Waiting for appoco to upload them to xmas server to do final review
Any feedback in the meantime is always welcome
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27 Nov 2017, 21:47
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mz.
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
There's only one good decision to make with the base ETA thing: whichever you assumed when you made the stats is the option that should be picked.
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28 Nov 2017, 01:55
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Roll with it.
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28 Nov 2017, 15:54
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
The stats are now on the xmas server
Stats: Click here
Bcalc: Click here
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28 Nov 2017, 19:58
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Thanks for not tampering with Base Eta in a galwar round.
I'm against it in regular rounds aswell, but thats another story.
Rather see mz's suggestion about inverted tech order on hulls.
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28 Nov 2017, 20:12
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
Thanks for not tampering with Base Eta in a galwar round.
I'm against it in regular rounds aswell, but thats another story.
Rather see mz's suggestion about inverted tech order on hulls.
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I have not descided on what to do with base eta's for the record
I was pondering about making the base eta's rather similar since fi co and cr bs target eachother. that way nobody really has an eta advantage
but the mz thing does sound interesting too, could try that in xmas round too. Thanks for giving me something to ponder
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30 Nov 2017, 12:04
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Ok stats are done as far as i'm concerned. If you point out a valid issue with the set, i'll consider making some minor updates to the set.
Only thing left to decide is racial bonuses
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30 Nov 2017, 16:36
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Not sure what the point is of the weird base eta pods. Please explain...
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30 Nov 2017, 16:52
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
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30 Nov 2017, 22:50
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
Not sure what the point is of the weird base eta pods. Please explain...
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MZ somewhere made the suggestion to reverse ETA's on the meta classes
curerntly you reward the first research with the fastest eta and the slowest with the highest.
to balance fico crbs better the suggestion was made that maybe those eta's should be reversed
thought it a nice experiment for this xmas round
same with the etd style set
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30 Nov 2017, 22:58
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
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Originally Posted by Jintao
MZ somewhere made the suggestion to reverse ETA's on the meta classes
curerntly you reward the first research with the fastest eta and the slowest with the highest.
to balance fico crbs better the suggestion was made that maybe those eta's should be reversed
thought it a nice experiment for this xmas round
same with the etd style set
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The invert suggestion was for tech tree. That you research Cr/Bs hulls first, then Fr/De then Fi/Co... Not put all ships on Fi/Co meta TT. And Give pods the opposite style. This looks lame all over.
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30 Nov 2017, 23:15
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mz.
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
I suggested either inverting the tech tree or invert metaclass ETAs. The effects are completely identical.
I didn't have in mind what Jintao has done with the stats, but it looks alright to me.
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1 Dec 2017, 03:31
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Re: Stats Xmas round 2017
Is no else concerned with the fact that half of these ships have unpronounceable names? I feel like I need more education to play this Xmas round. :P
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