The Round from CBA's perspective

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

Cos we have such a big trackrecord of backstabbing our allies right?

Relation Change 988 Conspiracy and Ultores have confirmed they are allied.
Relation Change 988 Ultores has decided to end its alliance with FAnG.

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Relation Change 988 Conspiracy and Ultores have confirmed they are allied.
Relation Change 988 Ultores has decided to end its alliance with FAnG.

Has to be a first for everything!

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

Has to be a first for everything!

Lol, as i said you would do.
This is what Ultores has been the best at, playing dirty politics

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Lol, as i said you would do.
This is what Ultores has been the best at, playing dirty politics

We do it once and are already the best at it? Thats awesome

[Connovar]

Its funny how silly CT are being, after starting of this round leading a block to keep ultores down, now they are going to lift you up and put you in the top spot. Pretty strange behaviour!

[eksero]

Originally Posted by Connovar

Its funny how silly CT are being, after starting of this round leading a block to keep ultores down, now they are going to lift you up and put you in the top spot. Pretty strange behaviour!

At least it gives them a chance to get to #1 too.

If they do nothing they would end #2 for sure, but who cares about that?

[Connovar]

Haha, we all know CT dont stand a chance of getting number 1, no offense to them.

Ultores are already sitting on a lot of value, and have played their politics very well to turn around what was a very shitty start to a round for them, they have their fingers wiggling in all the right bum holes it seems!

[eksero]

Even if they don't have a big chance, it's better than not trying at all isn't it?

[Connovar]

Always, but CT are the most honourable of the honourable arent they? Im certain they will want this to be a fair fight

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Lol, as i said you would do.
This is what Ultores has been the best at, playing dirty politics

Last round was for sure a poltical victory for the xVx/Ultores block.
This round Ultores block has been served military by CT and FAnG for the 80% of the round, and now in the end, it looks like they are gonna do a political move to secure the victory once again.
R43 or what not all over again?
Congrats anyway, you deserve to win when you outwitted everyone.

[Howzat]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Last round was for sure a poltical victory for the xVx/Ultores block.
This round Ultores block has been served military by CT and FAnG for the 80% of the round, and now in the end, it looks like they are gonna do a political move to secure the victory once again.
R43 or what not all over again?
Congrats anyway, you deserve to win when you outwitted everyone.

outratted*

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Last round was for sure a poltical victory for the xVx/Ultores block.
This round Ultores block has been served military by CT and FAnG for the 80% of the round, and now in the end, it looks like they are gonna do a political move to secure the victory once again.
R43 or what not all over again?
Congrats anyway, you deserve to win when you outwitted everyone.

Do you really have that little faith in your own alliance?

Or are you (once again) trying to make us seem more awesome than we are?

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

Do you really have that little faith in your own alliance?

Or are you (once again) trying to make us seem more awesome than we are?

lol, i would have faith in my alliance in 1 vs 1 battle.
If you were to backstab and run for the win, u shouldve atleast had the balls to do it without the help of everyone else...

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

lol, i would have faith in my alliance in 1 vs 1 battle.
If you were to backstab and run for the win, u shouldve atleast had the balls to do it without the help of everyone else...

Like you hit us without the help of everyone else earlier this round?
Or like you hit us without the help of everyone else at the end of last round?

Your alliance did not want any 1v1 battle, or you wouldn't have blocked with the others at the start (or even before) of the round.

You are also assuming ct does not gain anything on this, when they are actually 8m closer to you than we are..

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

Like you hit us without the help of everyone else earlier this round?
Or like you hit us without the help of everyone else at the end of last round?

Your alliance did not want any 1v1 battle, or you wouldn't have blocked with the others at the start (or even before) of the round.

You are also assuming ct does not gain anything on this, when they are actually 8m closer to you than we are..

With all res spent u are ahead of em, with a good chunk of roid lead

[eksero]

Even if that's true, their only shot at winning is to hit you. If they do nothing they certainly won't win

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

Even if that's true, their only shot at winning is to hit you. If they do nothing they certainly won't win

How are they gonna beat you?
They might get ahead of FAnG, but then Ultores will be in #1, and nobody is gonna be able to take em down when #1 and #2 is allied
Ultores got a lot more roids, and will be able to prod what, like 10-20 millions in ship value for the remainer of the round? how on earth is CT gonna be able to catch up with that?

[neroon]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

How are they gonna beat you?
They might get ahead of FAnG, but then Ultores will be in #1, and nobody is gonna be able to take em down when #1 and #2 is allied

most of the round u guys block vs ultores and give them massive incomings, which keep us down alot..

then u get tired and turn against ure own allies to ensure the win, which however backfires and u find ureselves in a voulnerable place. Now u see tables turning even more and it at once seems terribly wrong to you.

I seriously hope that u guys are going down and get what u deserve!

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by neroon

most of the round u guys block vs ultores and give them massive incomings, which keep us down alot..

then u get tired and turn against ure own allies to ensure the win, which however backfires and u find ureselves in a voulnerable place. Now u see tables turning even more and it at once seems terribly wrong to you.

I seriously hope that u guys are going down and get what u deserve!

Its just politics.
Ultores wernt gonna have a easy round from the start like that round, CT/FAnG came prepared to the Ultores powerblock this time.
I dont feel let down by CT or anything, they got some bones to crack over FAnG i guess.
I just think it is silly flagshipping Ultores into #1, instead of taking back at FAnG next round or something.

[eksero]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Its just politics.
Ultores wernt gonna have a easy round from the start like that round, CT/FAnG came prepared to the Ultores powerblock this time.
I dont feel let down by CT or anything, they got some bones to crack over FAnG i guess.
I just think it is silly flagshipping Ultores into #1, instead of taking back at FAnG next round or something.

What is so hard to understand?

By hitting you there is a chance, it might be small, but it's still a chance that they can win. If they don't hit you, there's no chance at all for them to win the round..

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by eksero

What is so hard to understand?

By hitting you there is a chance, it might be small, but it's still a chance that they can win. If they don't hit you, there's no chance at all for them to win the round..

Im sure they think there is slight chance of winning without working together with FAnG for the remaining of the round

[neroon]

theres still 7 mill between CT and Ultores, which is not a huge margin, tho could be enough if we fail to roid as good as CT does.. so theres a good chance actually, not just a small one..

also, with so little time remaining until the end of the round, Ultores couldn`t pull anything big out of the hat anymore anyways, which kinda positions CT very nicely..

Still though, Im in the same knowing as i were at the start of this round, which was a statement, that Fang had the best position for the roundwin.. If u do not win this round, then u guys have really failed :P, since things have been brought to you basicly on a silver plate :P

neyways, fang is fat and i hope lots of good landings

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by neroon

theres still 7 mill between CT and Ultores, which is not a huge margin, tho could be enough if we fail to roid as good as CT does.. so theres a good chance actually, not just a small one..

also, with so little time remaining until the end of the round, Ultores couldn`t pull anything big out of the hat anymore anyways, which kinda positions CT very nicely..

Still though, Im in the same knowing as i were at the start of this round, which was a statement, that Fang had the best position for the roundwin.. If u do not win this round, then u guys have really failed :P, since things have been brought to you basicly on a silver plate :P

neyways, fang is fat and i hope lots of good landings

Man, Ultores has allready passed CT when you count all res theyve been stocking up while everyone else has been fighting.
CT surely must know this, but it seems they have decided that Ultores is more worthy winners than FAnG since theyve decided to king make Ultores, instead of letting them fight it out between themself.
Tommorow Ultores will be too far away for CT to catch...
Stop playing stupid

[Connovar]

By CT joining up with Ultores again, and hitting FAnG, there is only a bigger chance of Ultores winning, CT will still be 2nd. Funnily enough Ultores winning was the last thing CT wanted at the beginning of the round...

[Connovar]

Originally Posted by neroon

most of the round u guys block vs ultores and give them massive incomings, which keep us down alot..

then u get tired and turn against ure own allies to ensure the win, which however backfires and u find ureselves in a voulnerable place. Now u see tables turning even more and it at once seems terribly wrong to you.

I seriously hope that u guys are going down and get what u deserve!

Um, who did FAnG turn on? We were turned on, yes, not partaking in the turning on allies, thats CTs job

[eksero]

Originally Posted by Connovar

Um, who did FAnG turn on? We were turned on, yes, not partaking in the turning on allies, thats CTs job

Originally Posted by Monroe

This is a misleading statement that werewolf has been propagating. Yes he did come and tell gm that Fang was ending the NAP (which was still breaking Fang's agreement with CT), but he did it what appeared to be a joking way. When gm asked Titos and Irv about werewolf's statement they denied it, thereby invalidating it in our minds. Turns out werewolf was right, but CT had no way of knowing that at the time, especially since Fang had consistently said the NAP was round long and would not be broken.

[Connovar]

I personally dont class that as a betrayal, as the trust between fang and ct had already been killed off, by CT

[CBA]

A lot of jibber and a lot more jabber this thread has been contaminated.

Anyhow, if RAT win this round, hats off to them.. they have crashed/emo'd/cried and have had a fair amount of incs. (May I add since cha's departure RAT have been on the up!)

I dislike RAT as much as the next guy but my goodness Irv completely shuxs. She can't do politics, nor should she try too.. As far as I am concerned she should sit there in fang.priv all evening everynight of the week and call/wake poeple for incs.. and aid dc's in getting people online etc.

For the reference books, although FAG are awful, if someone from Apprime, that has spent time with Cain, does their pr next round, they could easily win.

Good luck CT!!! ofc I want you noobies to win it even though you shux.. You got a Ronin though!

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Connovar

I personally dont class that as a betrayal, as the trust between fang and ct had already been killed off, by CT

Connovar you don't know eksero's level of trolling.
He's well aware of what everyone has done this round, just likes to attempt to look like an idiot every opportunity he has.
I do agree it is hard to notice, he's really good at it.

[eksero]

How was that trolling? I only pasted what ct hc said about the case

And if anything, most of the time my posts make the fang posters look like idiots

[Clouds]

Originally Posted by CBA

Anyhow, if RAT win this round, hats off to them.. they have crashed/emo'd/cried and have had a fair amount of incs.

I don't recall anyone from Ultores whining on here. Care to elaborate on this?

[CBA]

Originally Posted by Clouds

I don't recall anyone from Ultores whining on here. Care to elaborate on this?

who said they whined on here??

you want some logs from #rat.relay?

[Killeah]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Last round was for sure a poltical victory for the xVx/Ultores block.
This round Ultores block has been served military by CT and FAnG for the 80% of the round, and now in the end, it looks like they are gonna do a political move to secure the victory once again.

If you paid attention to what has happened the last 24 ticks, you would know that the by you refered "ultores block" have done nothing but prevent a optimal gain on FanG.

Had the block indeed gone for FanG instead of turning on itself, you would have looked at a 8-9k roid loss and 3 mill value loss to CT/ult (rough estimate)

So I seriously doubt (unless proven wrong tonight) that anything coordinated is going to touch your 1st.

we shall see

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Connovar

Its funny how silly CT are being, after starting of this round leading a block to keep ultores down, now they are going to lift you up and put you in the top spot. Pretty strange behaviour!

Firstly, I am pretty sure CT didn't lead a block 'to keep ult down', but to stop them running away from everyone.

Secondly, CT havent done this to lift Ult past Fang but to simply give themselves a shot at winning.
Fang brought this on themselves and now things are in motion that cannot be undone.

Personally I think it is a fantastic end to a round where any one of 3 alliances can win.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Clouds

I don't recall anyone from Ultores whining on here. Care to elaborate on this?

I think the return of the block thread would be something close to whining.
Im pretty sure you are well aware of how much Ultores whined and cried after being pushed down bellow ND, you would have had to be living in a box if u didnt notice it.

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Killeah

If you paid attention to what has happened the last 24 ticks, you would know that the by you refered "ultores block" have done nothing but prevent a optimal gain on FanG.

Had the block indeed gone for FanG instead of turning on itself, you would have looked at a 8-9k roid loss and 3 mill value loss to CT/ult (rough estimate)

So I seriously doubt (unless proven wrong tonight) that anything coordinated is going to touch your 1st.

we shall see

Ultores and FAnG will be level how things look atm, but then again FAnG will have incs for the remaining of the round, and Ultores will only gain roids for the remaining on the round, so Ultores will win. How can you deny this?

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Forest

Firstly, I am pretty sure CT didn't lead a block 'to keep ult down', but to stop them running away from everyone.

Secondly, CT havent done this to lift Ult past Fang but to simply give themselves a shot at winning.
Fang brought this on themselves and now things are in motion that cannot be undone.

Personally I think it is a fantastic end to a round where any one of 3 alliances can win.

ofc, CT wouldve have to attack FAnG to win, but they got to attack Ultores aswell to win, seeing that they are well passed them allready, and will be 20million ahead of CT in the end if the roid diffrensial stays this way for one week.
How do you think CT will be able to take down Ultores without cooporating with anyone else?
I did not say that CT shoudlve let FAnG run of with the win, but giving the win to Ultores is even more stupid, seeing that theyve allready had 3 rounds with a easy path to #1

[Mzyxptlk]

And how, exactly, do you envision CT taking down both FaNg and Ultores?

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

And how, exactly, do you envision CT taking down both FaNg and Ultores?

I dont see FAnG or CT working together again this round, so i dont envision anything, i just state that kingmaking Ultores who they have been at war with most of the round is silly.

[neroon]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I did not say that CT shoudlve let FAnG run of with the win, but giving the win to Ultores is even more stupid, seeing that theyve allready had 3 rounds with a easy path to #1

meh.. easy path to #1 ?? Are u serious? The only somewhat easy round was Ult`s first, other rounds Ult has been targeted for a big portion of the round..

This round by far has been the most challenging and thats mainly for 2 reasons:

1) we dont have agar3s to DC when we have tough time (i have no clue how that bastard got us covered in previous rounds but he did)

2) we have been ganged since the start of the round; its safe to say that no other alliance would still be a playing group after such a rough time

easy path you say? get over ure bitterness and take it like a man :P

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by neroon

meh.. easy path to #1 ?? Are u serious? The only somewhat easy round was Ult`s first, other rounds Ult has been targeted for a big portion of the round..

This round by far has been the most challenging and thats mainly for 2 reasons:

1) we dont have agar3s to DC when we have tough time (i have no clue how that bastard got us covered in previous rounds but he did)

2) we have been ganged since the start of the round; its safe to say that no other alliance would still be a playing group after such a rough time

easy path you say? get over ure bitterness and take it like a man :P

U have not been ganged on since the start of the round, your block got targetted early on when alliances were gal raiding, you run of with a small lead, and you were p-targetted.
Previous rounds youve been able to grow early on, with out incommings, or you have been playing dirty politics in the end like this round, where youve gotten CT to do your dirty work, and kingmake Ultores.
Im pretty sure there was someone from Ultores, eksero maybe, saying this round wasnt as challening as one of your previous round, but i cba to look the post up atm.
Im not bitter getting incommings, im just sad for PA that CT is gonna let Ultores ratting their way into #1

[neroon]

no.. u are bitter, or just some peon who is fed with dumb information..

I dont know who it was from Ultores that you are referingto, but that sounds pretty much something that has been ripped out of a content, as it usually is with you..

Previous rounds, we have had incomings pretty much early on as well, but the stops between the waves of incomings have been longer ones, which have been enough for Ultores players to breathe and get themselves going again..

Also, Im quite confident that this round has been the most hardest one for Ultores.. We have indeed been ganged on from basicly the start of the round and we are still, at least in a way, threatening Fang`s #1 place.. which all in all makes me pretty proud..

I have no idea how we are playing dirty politics.. seems that ure definition might be different from the majority of other ppl, who knows..

noone does our dirty work.. we`ve stood quite straight against our enemies and so far we have pretty much succeeded, which cant be told about many other alliances..

Fang does not deserve the win, nor does CT actually.. I would rather see CT winning this though, as fang hasnt done anything worthy so far :/

Btw, I`d like to know how many ppl buy ure BS in these forums.. like I guess there are new players going with this shiz but.. who knows

[Forest]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

How do you think CT will be able to take down Ultores without cooporating with anyone else?

I don't think they could.
However, we never got that chance, seeing as fang decided to twat CT with Ult and Co and we had immense incoming that nobody could handle.

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I did not say that CT shoudlve let FAnG run of with the win, but giving the win to Ultores is even more stupid, seeing that theyve allready had 3 rounds with a easy path to #1

CT isn't giving a win to Ult, that is insulting to both CT and Ult.
CT is doing what it can to win and this is the ONLY thing open to it to do so.

Fang brought this on themselves tbh

[Forest]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I dont see FAnG or CT working together again this round, so i dont envision anything, i just state that kingmaking Ultores who they have been at war with most of the round is silly.

Kingmake? If ult win this then they will do through a combination of skill and politics and it will be a very good win for them, possibly their best yet

Or would you rather CT hit Ult and let Fang win?

Seems your posts are saying 'dont give the win to ult, give it to fang'

[Killeah]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

Ultores and FAnG will be level how things look atm, but then again FAnG will have incs for the remaining of the round, and Ultores will only gain roids for the remaining on the round, so Ultores will win. How can you deny this?

Because I unlike you, are basing my statements on facts.

apenis for FAnG is 29254090 score long. This makes FAnG rank: 1 apenis. The average peon is sporting a 370304 score epenis.

apenis for Ultores is 22752114 score long. This makes Ultores rank: 3 apenis. The average peon is sporting a 350032 score epenis.

This dump was done 5 min ago. My initial point is that if ultores should reach your 1st at all, it requires way more incs than you're currently getting, and way more lands for ult than they're currently getting.

Again this is due to the fact that there's no block hitting you. (not the block you're refering to anyway. They're fighting elsewhere. as long as they do - your first won't come into question.

IF you really weant to keep your claim that ult will overtake FanG then show me the facts that proves this scenario - if you can't then just keep spewing bs - it's not like we aren't amused.

[MiX]

Originally Posted by BloodyButcher

I dont see FAnG or CT working together again this round, so i dont envision anything, i just state that kingmaking Ultores who they have been at war with most of the round is silly.

How about FAnG selectively defends against only Ultores incoming for the remainder of the round, then you dont need to worry because CT will win! Great idea no?

[Influence]

Originally Posted by Killeah

Because I unlike you, are basing my statements on facts.

apenis for FAnG is 29254090 score long. This makes FAnG rank: 1 apenis. The average peon is sporting a 370304 score epenis.

apenis for Ultores is 22752114 score long. This makes Ultores rank: 3 apenis. The average peon is sporting a 350032 score epenis.

This dump was done 5 min ago. My initial point is that if ultores should reach your 1st at all, it requires way more incs than you're currently getting, and way more lands for ult than they're currently getting.

Again this is due to the fact that there's no block hitting you. (not the block you're refering to anyway. They're fighting elsewhere. as long as they do - your first won't come into question.

IF you really weant to keep your claim that ult will overtake FanG then show me the facts that proves this scenario - if you can't then just keep spewing bs - it's not like we aren't amused.

You do realize that apenis gives a fairly distorted view of the situation after 1 day of incs don´t you? yes FAnG grew more than CT and Ult the past day. But that's only normal as they were spending their stockpiles to help selfcover as much as possible. CT and Ult however, don't have the need to spend their stockpiles yet.

[Kaiba]

What stockpiles????

[BloodyButcher]

Originally Posted by Killeah

Because I unlike you, are basing my statements on facts.

apenis for FAnG is 29254090 score long. This makes FAnG rank: 1 apenis. The average peon is sporting a 370304 score epenis.

apenis for Ultores is 22752114 score long. This makes Ultores rank: 3 apenis. The average peon is sporting a 350032 score epenis.

This dump was done 5 min ago. My initial point is that if ultores should reach your 1st at all, it requires way more incs than you're currently getting, and way more lands for ult than they're currently getting.

Again this is due to the fact that there's no block hitting you. (not the block you're refering to anyway. They're fighting elsewhere. as long as they do - your first won't come into question.

IF you really weant to keep your claim that ult will overtake FanG then show me the facts that proves this scenario - if you can't then just keep spewing bs - it's not like we aren't amused.

Ultores got more roids than fang on their members counting for score by far, how fang gonna outgrow ultores when they dont attack?

[Killeah]

Originally Posted by Influence

You do realize that apenis gives a fairly distorted view of the situation after 1 day of incs don´t you? yes FAnG grew more than CT and Ult the past day. But that's only normal as they were spending their stockpiles to help selfcover as much as possible. CT and Ult however, don't have the need to spend their stockpiles yet.

Yes I'm well aware of the fact that the picture can change and that apenis gives a median over days before also, which is why in my initial post wrote that until that point nothing pointed at the fact that FanG would be overtaken

now we had the 2nd day of incs done, and I'll stick to that claim, incs are no where near enough to change first spot.

If you want to convince me that Ult and CT got a big enough stock of resources to both pass the lead on FanG then you have to back it up with proof, the scans I've done doesn't confirm that fact.

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