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Unread 17 Jan 2005, 18:34   #1
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The Airbus A380

I knew it was bit, but this big?
A wingspan the length of a football pitch and capacity for 800 people? The thing is a monster! It would actually take you a good few minutes to walk from nose to tail.

Impressive stuff.
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Re: The Airbus A380

phat.
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Unread 17 Jan 2005, 18:36   #3
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Exclamation Re: The Airbus A380

"But the main point about this super tanker-sized aeroplane is that it can fit up to 840 people into its generous hull - although a more typical seating arrangement with a large first class and business class will seat about 555 passengers. "

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Re: The Airbus A380

that's going to be able to knock down some mighty big buildings.
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Re: The Airbus A380

my housemates dad has been working on that.
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Re: The Airbus A380

i hope to god it means more leg room but i doubt it.

it would be nice to have more of a 'cruise ship' type feel too. instead of the 'PACK EM IN LIKE CATTLE YEEHAA'
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Re: The Airbus A380

i thought they was gonna do one with shop and the like inside
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Re: The Airbus A380

Most likely there is going to be different versions of it. Everything from cattle-express to the spacey one with bars for the filthy rich.
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Re: The Airbus A380

that size means better fuel economy means cheaper and better seats. At least, that's how it seems to me. Here's a-hopin', anyway
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Re: The Airbus A380

The whole of Mexico could immigrate to the U.S in one of those.
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Re: The Airbus A380

The Sultan of Brunei should buy one and fit it with a swimming pool, just for the bling factor.
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Re: The Airbus A380

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that size means better fuel economy means exactly the same seats at exactly the same prices and more profits for the airlines
I fixed it for you.
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Re: The Airbus A380

im guessing that the 'hype' wont be lived upto and just like concorde it, the 'aceness' of it wont be given to the public at large because too much money can be made by cramming in 800 people into seats with 3 inches of leg room.

imagine......

even more screaming kids and scabby yobs getting pissed and going on about how their holiday in the costa del sol was much easier to get too...

or the overweight scabby cheap ass women who think that because they can afford to fly it gives them a god given right to push their seat 100% of the way back and then complain about when people happen to 'touch the seat' whilst trying to move through the 1" gap theyve left behind them.


oh and lets not forget that more children will mean EVEN MORE OF A REASON TO DO SOME STUPID COMPETITION like 'what does the only homo cabin crew member look like??? answers on a postcard !' and then wake everyone up at 4am announcing the winner over the tannoy.


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Re: The Airbus A380

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The Sultan of Brunei should buy one and fit it with a swimming pool, just for the bling factor.
Wouldn't the water go everywhere when it landed?
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Re: The Airbus A380

You're deluding yourselves if you think that when you fly it won't be packed in to the max, the same soft-lighted leet interiors were shown when the original 747 was built, in the end money talks. Airlines don't like people walking about, especially after sept 11th, they like passengers in their seats quiet and if at all possible valiumed out. The gyms/shops etc will probably be for first/business class people. Plebs in economy will be plebs in economy, still never mind they say that being a third class passenger in an A380 is like being a first class passenger on the Lusitania!
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Wouldn't the water go everywhere when it landed?
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Wouldn't the water go everywhere when it landed?
Not if it had one of those plastic covers people use to keep the leaves off.
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Re: The Airbus A380

The one thing I liked the look of that might be vaugley practical is the "cabins" idea.
Not like a full on cabin like on a cross-channel ferry, but basicly bunks (like on the spaceship on 5th Element if you've seen it). Wouldn't lose much room as you could double of maybe triple stack them, and people could perhaps specify a bunk over a seat in economy so that the option was there.
It'd make cheap transatlantic flights a HELL of a lot nicer.

I can dream.
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Re: The Airbus A380

i hate flying and thus seldom do.

there are plenty of other ways to travel.
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All aboard the Titantic mkII bound for Noo Yoik.

i was on board the original.
i took a boat with duff & diana cooper.
how were we supposed to know there was a shortage???

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It would actually take you a good few minutes to walk from nose to tail.

that's 73m...so i doubt it.
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i hope to god it means more leg room but i doubt it.

it would be nice to have more of a 'cruise ship' type feel too. instead of the 'PACK EM IN LIKE CATTLE YEEHAA'
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Re: The Airbus A380

http://www.n-tv.de/5478730.html
it looks nice. btw, i just read the boeing is going to build an 'advanced' version of the 747 with something between 500 and 600 seats. so i guess airbus' idea wasn't that stupid after all.
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Re: The Airbus A380

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that's 73m...so i doubt it.
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It's all very nice and good, but has it actually been given FAA approval yet?
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It's all very nice and good, but has it actually been given FAA approval yet?
The fallout if they didn't would be quite interesting to watch (blah blah, favouritism towards boeing, blah) and also disasterous for the numerous US airlines that have already ordered them...
In other words, it's a bit of a foregone conclusion. The FAA wouldn't risk bankrupting more airlines, especially under a presidency headed by Mr George "what's good for business is good for me" Bush.
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I've read that every additional kilogramm usually costs about 500 euro a year (fuel etc). And since this Airbus is already 5 tonnes (=half a million euro a year) over its planned weight, I seriously doubt walking around and shops inside.

Also don't forget it's still a PLANE and moving FAST, as opposed to a ship.
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http://www.n-tv.de/5478730.html
it looks nice. btw, i just read the boeing is going to build an 'advanced' version of the 747 with something between 500 and 600 seats. so i guess airbus' idea wasn't that stupid after all.
According to the news a few days ago Boieng are designing a plane that will have the ability to go anywhere in the world without stopping for fuel. They seem to believe (or hope) that this is the way forward rather than having super sized planes. I also assume they'ld make it a fair bit faster than the airbus A380.

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I've read that every additional kilogramm usually costs about 500 euro a year (fuel etc). And since this Airbus is already 5 tonnes (=half a million euro a year) over its planned weight, I seriously doubt walking around and shops inside.

Also don't forget it's still a PLANE and moving FAST, as opposed to a ship.
According to the BBC news report i saw it's more economical on fuel than an average car.

Once the plane is at cruising altitude (assuming no turbulence) it is stable enough to walk around and do things like drink at a bar or play at a casino (which seems to be what Virgin have planned).
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According to the news a few days ago Boieng are designing a plane that will have the ability to go anywhere in the world without stopping for fuel. They seem to believe (or hope) that this is the way forward rather than having super sized planes. I also assume they'ld make it a fair bit faster than the airbus A380.
yes, they want to build that 7E7, which follows a completly different strategy. its small, but should take people directly to where they want to go (as opposed to the current hub-system), but airbus already countered with a modified version of the A-340, which can do the same thing.
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According to the BBC news report i saw it's more economical on fuel than an average car.

Once the plane is at cruising altitude (assuming no turbulence) it is stable enough to walk around and do things like drink at a bar or play at a casino (which seems to be what Virgin have planned).
In this magazin it also said they would like to stay below 2.9 liters of fuel per person per 100km. That IS better than a car, ok, but still, planes do fly far longer ways.

Just like if you say "hey, planes are the safest way of transportation", that's ok if you look at incidents per passenger per 100km or so. But keep in mind, one flight is already several 100km usually.


I do SERIOUSLY doubt casinos and such things in planes. It's not made for flying around, you know, starting with it, extending runways, all that stuff.
And it'd be to expensive to carry round (the weight problem again).
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Re: The Airbus A380

They should go with my solution of having swimming pools on board., as the water will support the wight of people and they'll appear to be lighter and thus they'll burn less fuel and there'll be less damage to the ozone layer.
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Re: The Airbus A380

the real question is: will it actually fly?
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Once the plane is at cruising altitude (assuming no turbulence) it is stable enough to walk around and do things like drink at a bar or play at a casino (which seems to be what Virgin have planned).
Which has the potential to make lots of money, and thus could easily be feasible.
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In this magazin it also said they would like to stay below 2.9 liters of fuel per person per 100km. That IS better than a car, ok, but still, planes do fly far longer ways.

Just like if you say "hey, planes are the safest way of transportation", that's ok if you look at incidents per passenger per 100km or so. But keep in mind, one flight is already several 100km usually.


I do SERIOUSLY doubt casinos and such things in planes. It's not made for flying around, you know, starting with it, extending runways, all that stuff.
And it'd be to expensive to carry round (the weight problem again).
All true, but the big airlines can compete with those new, cheap ones by price, so they could try it with luxury.
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i am clearly the only person who worries more about bigger planes being more destructive when used by terrorists to knock down buildings and so forth.

are the rest of you in denial?
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Re: The Airbus A380

No, I join you on that sentiment Yahwe, however....


I am clearly the only person who feels casinos, bars and the like aboard a plane.. ARE YOU ALL SO ****ING MORONIC AND MATERIAL THAT YOU REALLY NEED A SHOPPING CENTRE ON WINGS YOU STUPID FAT ****S!!!!


ahem.. not sure where that came from sorry, but you see my point I hope.
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Need I say rich, fat coperate execs on transatlantic flights?
Given this thing can carry as many people as a jumbo on the ground floor if you configure it right, I can easily see something like the following:

Ground floor: Economy/3rd class
First floor aft: 2nd class (ie. a bit of legroom and nicer food)
First floor foreward: 1st/business class + entertainment

I'm not so sure about casinos unless they have magnetic cards and chips, seeing as one bit of turbulence would wreck the game and let's face it would also add a whole new level of randomness to roulette, but I could imagine a small cinema and a bar/lounge like on a ferry for example.


Or we could just put a swimming pool in it so Yahwe can have the satisfaction of watching it knock over some REALLY big buildings.
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Re: The Airbus A380

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i am clearly the only person who worries more about bigger planes being more destructive when used by terrorists to knock down buildings and so forth.

are the rest of you in denial?
do you really think they'll use planes again, now with all the new laws and security measures in place? they will come up with a new and more creative way of killing people.
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Re: The Airbus A380

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They should go with my solution of having swimming pools on board., as the water will support the wight of people and they'll appear to be lighter and thus they'll burn less fuel and there'll be less damage to the ozone layer.
actually made me laugh
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