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Unread 7 Mar 2003, 23:58   #1
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Have you ever...

changed your opinion on an important political question because of a debate on an Internet Discussion board like this?
And could you imagine that you could vote for some1 else in an election, because you got convinced in an Internet Forum?

Would be interesting to know if all the long discussions actually have some impact on people's mind or if everyone just insists on his own opinion no matter what arguments the opposite site has.
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Unread 8 Mar 2003, 00:02   #2
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Would be interesting to know if all the long discussions actually have some impact on people's mind or if everyone just insists on his own opinion no matter what arguments the opposite site has.
Generally speaking, I'm either impressed by someone or think they are a complete boner. Either way, it's an impact.
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Unread 8 Mar 2003, 00:07   #4
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my views have been changed on several issues by a variety of posters.
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Unread 8 Mar 2003, 00:25   #5
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mine have never changed and i know of noone i ever conviced of anything, did that answer your question?
discussions on forums are pretty much pointless.
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on a side note, why do i recognise 'SPQR'?

is it a reference to something i've forgotten?

(vaguely reminds me of legions old banners for some reason...?)
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It was written on the roman war banners. Has nothing to do with the alliance Legion actually, except them having it from the same source.
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It was written on the roman war banners. Has nothing to do with the alliance Legion actually, except them having it from the same source.
knew i remembered it being on some of their alliance banners
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I take it 'Todd' from your sig isn't 'Todd from Neighbours who died after being hit by a car and having his spleen ruptured' then?
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Unread 8 Mar 2003, 00:49   #13
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I take it 'Todd' from your sig isn't 'Todd from Neighbours who died after being hit by a car and having his spleen ruptured' then?
No.
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Shame. I rather enjoyed his being impaled on a truck to be honest. And more so his 'death' sequence. And furthermore his 'memories' sequence shortly after his death.

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Unread 8 Mar 2003, 00:56   #15
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That would have been ace, No, seriously, what are you on about ?
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You're being too Harold now.

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Shame. I rather enjoyed his being impaled on a truck to be honest. And more so his 'death' sequence. And furthermore his 'memories' sequence shortly after his death.

It was like Madge dying. But with less breasts.

I must have missed that :(

However as I recall, the Todd/Cody/Josh/Melissa 'love square' was quite an interesting storyline for a while.


The fact that I remember this makes me want to weep :/
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changed your opinion on an important political question because of a debate on an Internet Discussion board like this?
And could you imagine that you could vote for some1 else in an election, because you got convinced in an Internet Forum?

Would be interesting to know if all the long discussions actually have some impact on people's mind or if everyone just insists on his own opinion no matter what arguments the opposite site has.
Other people's input have rarely convinced me their view is the right one, but has often got me thinking and researching enough to change my own.
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Why look down on the internet as "inferior" ?

If anything, internet discussions are superior to those in real life. You get a chance to mull over whatever anyone else says as its stored on screen. You can view peoples sources. And its easy to tell who doesnt know what they are talking about.



And besides, who says it has to "change" my opinion on anything? Sometimes it does, but i dont neccesarily HAVE an opinion yet on certain topics, and the internet can help me form one.
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A lot of my opinions have changed because of the debates on here. I used to be quite left wing, but I'm now centre-ish libertarian.
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A lot of my opinions have changed because of the debates on here. I used to be quite left wing, but I'm now centre-ish libertarian.
Implying that being left-wing is somehow the opposite of being libertarian show's you've obviously listened too much to Nod*.

* Or Tacticus. Or Warfalcon. Or Gayle. Or W. Or anyone one of the other of "those types" who frequent these parts.

As to the original question : Possibly in general, and certainly on minor issues. I used to subscribe to a fairly academic Marxist mailing list which was quite informative and indeed assisted some of my views (often in the opposite direction with some of the posters though).

However, I've had broadly the same views since I was about 15, although I've gradually become more libertarian as time has gone on, and realised what awful statist-bourgeois nonsense school attempts to fill our minds with.
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I was implying that when I was left, I wasn't authoritarian or libertarian.
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Economically it is. I doubt youve ever heard me say anything involving 'left wing' though, because its not a term I generally use outside of my own head.
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Implying that being left-wing is somehow the opposite of being libertarian show's you've obviously listened too much to Nod*.

* Or Tacticus. Or Warfalcon. Or Gayle. Or W. Or anyone one of the other of "those types" who frequent these parts.
I object to you mentioning me. I've always been of the position that left-right is a silly division, and that there are several different issues, economic, form of government, general freedom etc. that are ambiguously refered to by "left" and "right". I'm usually also quick to point people at http://politicalcompass.org/
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