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Unread 9 Jul 2015, 19:59   #251
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Re: Second half of the round

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Haha, the force is strong in this one.
Unless you beat Ultores, you wont win.
Ultores also put themself in this position from my point of view, maybe they felt that they were running out of targets earlier on this round, and started dropping the NAPs with the smaller allies?
For sure BowS would be unlikely to take any deals with the likes of CT/BF if we were allready filled up with NAPs/avoidances
Dropping naps with the smaller tags? We hit bows cause they broke the agreement they made with us. cr0 went so far to call 2 fleets a galraid even. You guys must have been getting "raided" so often.
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Dropping naps with the smaller tags? We hit bows cause they broke the agreement they made with us. cr0 went so far to call 2 fleets a galraid even. You guys must have been getting "raided" so often.
The avoidances wasnt extended, you had allready made up your mind when Cr0 newbed it up putting up a Ult fort, wich we sinceserly apologized for.
Even if the fort avoidances had been extended, cr0 would have newbed it up anyway
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The avoidances wasnt extended, you had allready made up your mind when Cr0 newbed it up putting up a Ult fort, wich we sinceserly apologized for.
Even if the fort avoidances had been extended, cr0 would have newbed it up anyway
Nah we hadnt made up our mind at all. When we retalled after rainbows put 8 Ult planets up cr0 came to me and he said he did that cause Ult "raided" 7:5.
After newsscanning the galaxy I found out 7:5 got 2 Ult incs, a planet hit Ult and got retalled.
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Nah we hadnt made up our mind at all. When we retalled after rainbows put 8 Ult planets up cr0 came to me and he said he did that cause Ult "raided" 7:5.
After newsscanning the galaxy I found out 7:5 got 2 Ult incs, a planet hit Ult and got retalled.
You know this is just lies.
Chimpie and i had allready spoken monday that week, and you didnt want to renew the fort avoidance, but gave us an extention from Wedensday to sunday due to the FL/Rogues/Asc block kept targetting us. Initialy you wanted it ended on wedensday
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Re: Second half of the round

I heard Ultores has already won next round. Wouter, confirm/deny?
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Re: Second half of the round

Wouter please dont argue with BloodyButcher. He is right.
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I heard Ultores has already won next round. Wouter, confirm/deny?
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You know this is just lies.
Chimpie and i had allready spoken monday that week, and you didnt want to renew the fort avoidance, but gave us an extention from Wedensday to sunday due to the FL/Rogues/Asc block kept targetting us. Initialy you wanted it ended on wedensday
I also told you we wouldnt hit you regardless but wanted to limit the number of deals to avoid giving the evil forces an excuse to put up a powerblock vs us. With the result of you breaking the agreement early and joining the anti ult block i guess i failed

Doesn't matter tho, like agar3s said, we win every round
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Unread 10 Jul 2015, 02:50   #259
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I also told you we wouldnt hit you regardless but wanted to limit the number of deals to avoid giving the evil forces an excuse to put up a powerblock vs us. With the result of you breaking the agreement early and joining the anti ult block i guess i failed

Doesn't matter tho, like agar3s said, we win every round
Well we wouldnt have joined the evil powerblock vs Ult if we were NAPed to you.
And breaking the agreement early was because we are newbs, not because we intended too
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Re: Second half of the round

You do know there is such things as intentional "newbs" right?
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Unread 10 Jul 2015, 12:44   #262
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You do know there is such things as intentional "newbs" right?
Yeah, but why would we target someone we cant land intentionaly?
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Because you're newbs?
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The following gif is how i look like every time you post something butcher:
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I propose that Butcher makes that his avatar.
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Yeah, but why would we target someone we cant land intentionaly?
More likely than anyone putting up targets without checking intel, so... intentional newbing.
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More likely than anyone putting up targets without checking intel
Hahahahahahaha if only.
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Yeah, but why would we target someone we cant land intentionaly?
pretty sure there isn't anyone immune to being landed on in this game "yet" it's one of the few things you can't be immune from in PA

and what's with the newb talk? do you think having a few new people in your alliance gives you a free pass for your command team to take the title of newb also?
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pretty sure there isn't anyone immune to being landed on in this game "yet" it's one of the few things you can't be immune from in PA

and what's with the newb talk? do you think having a few new people in your alliance gives you a free pass for your command team to take the title of newb also?
Unless you're Faceless whose sole intention is to flak for Raul. Fencesitting like a baus.
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Unless you're Faceless whose sole intention is to flak for Raul. Fencesitting like a baus.
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Patrolling they tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty"

Like that kinda "baus"

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wait i got a better one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koSQ5MWrCdc
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i kinda expected this one:
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This one is better

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Re: Second half of the round

No one can understand that video Raul.

Chimpie only problem with "white and nerdy". Raul is Brazilian. They are brownish not white lol
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Seems that as per usual I was correct, and Forest incorrect, in that it does in fact seem that Asc will not win the round.

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Seems that as per usual I was correct, and Forest incorrect, in that it does in fact seem that Asc will not win the round.

I dont think anyone except forest thought that asc was a contender to win
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I dont think anyone except forest thought that asc was a contender to win
if things had worked out how Asc originally planned they probably would have to be fair...
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if things had worked out how Asc originally planned they probably would have to be fair...
What didnt work out?
Going a round pissing off everybody and not getting incs?
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Yeah, if every piece of the puzzle fell in to place, we would have had a shot. But after our DoW on Ult and all the stuff which followed, it was pretty clear to us we wouldnt make it anymore. From that moment on we have been ptargetted almost every night on multiple Asc gals. Fair play, well played and props to everyone involved. But that was the moment stuff turned against us and we never recovered from it Tbh, its amazing how we lasted so long without dying a horrible horrible death.

I would like to add that in Imaginary-Ascendancy-Land we are #1. We are doing great in there.
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What didnt work out?
Going a round pissing off everybody and not getting incs?
well they managed to do it for quite a while... imagine if they'd managed to keep untouched like FL?
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well they managed to do it for quite a while... imagine if they'd managed to keep untouched like FL?
They were left untouched for a while because people are actualy playing the game to its full extent
Their politics put the round into where it was because nobody cared for them, and the likes of Rogues/BowS/P3ng never managed to materilize any 2nd "mid tier block".
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Damned if you do, damned if you dont! We made a move, payed the price and accepted it. Time for others to do the same.
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i was waiting round end. but looks like its done already.
wtf happened with the old asc i remember? return of.the king etc?
im.sad to see how old asc hcs allow zhill and benneh command this lame round.
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wtf happened with the old asc i remember?
The old Ascendancy you remember has done exactly this at least once before:
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If you think our actions are somehow dishonourable, then I suggest you re-evaluate your own faction's actions over the round, to which this move is a direct (though much delayed) response.

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im.sad to see how old asc hcs allow zhill and benneh command this lame round.
Zhil and Benneh do not and never have commanded us. When they (or others) propose actions, we follow them because we choose to, either because we agree, or because we don't disagree enough to overcome our awareness that united we stand, divided we fall.
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The old Ascendancy you remember has done exactly this at least once before:

If you think our actions are somehow dishonourable, then I suggest you take a look at your faction's own actions over the round. And I'm not referring to Faceless, in case that was unclear.


Zhil and Benneh do not and never have commanded us.
Zhil was the only one speaking in one of the joint HC channels earlier, he sounded like a broken record
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The old Ascendancy you remember has done exactly this at least once before:

If you think our actions are somehow dishonourable, then I suggest you re-evaluate your own faction's actions over the round, to which this move is a direct (though much delayed) response.

And I'm not referring to Faceless, in case that was unclear.


Zhil and Benneh do not and never have commanded us. When they (or others) propose actions, we follow them because we choose to, either because we agree, or because we don't disagree enough to overcome our awareness that united we stand, divided we fall.
apologies if u feel like i said something wrong. but really really looks like he did all he wanted and commanded asc to a lame round. imho. lapdogs.
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Zhil was the only one speaking in one of the joint HC channels earlier
Just because he was the Ascendancy delegate there does not mean that he made all or even the majority of our decisions for us. He was our interface to much of the outside world, and he was obviously directly involved in the decision making process. Beyond that, he is no more to blame for Ascendancy's mistakes (and I'm not denying there were some) than I am.

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apologies if u feel like i said something wrong. but really really looks like he did all he wanted and commanded asc to a lame round. imho. lapdogs.
Your words don't offend me. I don't worry about people's opinions of how Ascendancy chooses to play this game, outside of how those opinions might influence our prospects while the round is on. Since those prospects are now virtually gone, and the round all but over, repaying this long-overdue favour to Brasil has no down-sides that I care about, and thus I kindly invite you to get ****ed.
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Exactly. Butcher rants incoherently on the forums all the damn time even when we expressly ask him to shut the **** up but he definitely doesn't speak for Rainbows, or actually make decisions beyond "DO IT FOR THE TROLL".
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Thats true tommy we warned him, he doesn't stop, and he is also most definitely not the face of rainbows.
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mz is back to the game then =p

well, i cant even understand what u mean. but i realize that asc perfomance this round have a lot to do with bf winning.
last round benneh and zhill both played in bf, and i claim that this round they just gave bf the win! and i doubt entire asc team support this idea.
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mz is back to the game then =p

well, i cant even understand what u mean. but i realize that asc perfomance this round have a lot to do with bf winning.
last round benneh and zhill both played in bf, and i claim that this round they just gave bf the win! and i doubt entire asc team support this idea.
We just did the best moves for us at the time we made them. In our view. I could explain our decision making in detail, but what would be the point?
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i claim that this round they just gave bf the win! and i doubt entire asc team support this idea.
This ofc forgets that ult itself chose to let BF win. If when Asc attacked Ult, Ult had not dropped everything to hammer Asc, then both Ult and Asc would be in better shape and BF with less of a lead having not had that week of nearly free attacking.
When it attacked Ult Asc gambled that Ult would not ease the pressure on BF, this gamble failed spectacularly.
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This ofc forgets that ult itself chose to let BF win. If when Asc attacked Ult, Ult had not dropped everything to hammer Asc, then both Ult and Asc would be in better shape and BF with less of a lead having not had that week of nearly free attacking.
When it attacked Ult Asc gambled that Ult would not ease the pressure on BF, this gamble failed spectacularly.
you were told before your waves landed that this would be the case,
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on behalf of Ministry and Ascendancy HC, I hereby state that, although things planned out differently, we played a pretty decent round. Our effort/result ratio has been acceptable.

We still hate crashers though. HATE.
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