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Unread 27 Nov 2009, 01:11   #301
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Re: Interesting change in politics

Clearly leaving Asc had given you more time to troll AD JBG!
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Re: Interesting change in politics

sharing a link which is going around for most atm, but some might not yet have it...

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Re: Interesting change in politics

2 vs 5, hardly much of a block war. Euphoria deserves a cookie for manipulating so many into doing their dirty work for them.
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Re: Interesting change in politics

Interesting that Asc see App as a big threat because of BS, obviously there is a huge advantage having the only BS alliance as an ally, you can slack a lot on anti CR/BS in favor of more FI/CO but considering how good pirates are against ETD BS I didnt expect Asc to see it as a problem.

Broadsword are obviously good against Pirates but I don't think Apprime are ready to shift to heavy Broadsword fleets to hit Ascendancy whether Ascendancy join them or not.
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2 vs 5, hardly much of a block war. Euphoria deserves a cookie for manipulating so many into doing their dirty work for them.
Vision are with you guys also though.
And when u take quality into the equation here, I d join your block if I was in a neutral ally and was forced to join
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If I was making a serious post I'd have countered his actual point.
It took me until this morning to realise I'd been had ;(
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2 vs 5, hardly much of a block war. Euphoria deserves a cookie for manipulating so many into doing their dirty work for them.
got to love posts such as this.. nice job Turtle :d

fyi, euphoria does its own dirty job
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A cookie for the best original names for each side
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Vision are with you guys also though.
And when u take quality into the equation here, I d join your block if I was in a neutral ally and was forced to join
Yeah somehow I seriously doubt vision are with Ascendancy. I'd still join the Asc/App side though as well. Mainly due to the implied Alcoholics Anonymous block but whatever.


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Vision aren't "with" us, that is, we don't actively cooperate with them. We don't hit each other though, that much is true.
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Re: Interesting change in politics

That actually is pretty much good enough in the current climate when you consider that the other block consists of nearly everyone else actively playing the game.

For the record the other side is ND/subh/CT/dlr/euphoria? Cardi once told me ODDR were involved as well but who knows!
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Re: Interesting change in politics

Since your in a sharing mood wishmaster , care to share with us who arranged the ship farming on a subh member by someone in your gal ?
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ODDR are involved jbg. Although I cant see subh being part of the block for much longer
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might b mistaken tho ive seen a few retals/hits/FCs co-oped by vsn/app/asc :d

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Re: Interesting change in politics

ODDR are actually fighting vs p3nguins, but thanks for playing!

For the record they did hit with us for a couple of nights but if you want to include them in our block for that we'll have to add Vision and p3nguins to yours!

Realistically it's DLR/Euph/ND/CT/Subh vs App/Asc or DENCS vs AA (do I get a cookie for those very original names?)
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That actually is pretty much good enough in the current climate when you consider that the other block consists of nearly everyone else actively playing the game.

For the record the other side is ND/subh/CT/dlr/euphoria? Cardi once told me ODDR were involved as well but who knows!
not hard when you get incoming from one side all the time, then you kinda get pushed in to the other direction.

The only ally that hasn't hit us that much is app, but they have other things to worry about.
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ODDR are actually fighting vs p3nguins, but thanks for playing!

For the record they did hit with us for a couple of nights but if you want to include them in our block for that we'll have to add Vision and p3nguins to yours!

Realistically it's DLR/Euph/ND/CT/Subh vs App/Asc or DENCS vs AA (do I get a cookie for those very original names?)

it's more likely penguins + a shitload of vision on some nights, but it's a wargame, anything else would be boring
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I ve heard that f-crew are with apprime asc vision also.
so that makes it VAAF?
Against OSCNED ? someone find a good name !
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so that makes it VAAF?
Against OSCNED ? someone find a good name !
need to leave out the o mate, we aren't involved that much with the block, we have a friendly understanding of not attacking eachother but that's it.

and two nights of attacks we helped out, we are currently committed on other fronts.

so your second name becomes even more weird DENSC
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damn, kinda need an O or so there for any hope of a good name?!
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DENSC (pronounced dense) seems a fairly good blockname to me.
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Re: Interesting change in politics

Apprime/Ascendancy take their block recruiting to a whole other level...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiDqxmY41VY
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Apprime/Ascendancy take their block recruiting to a whole other level...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiDqxmY41VY
omg!
so this means that Asc and Apprime made a preround block?!

pre PA block even.

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might b mistaken tho ive seen a few retals/hits/FCs co-oped by vsn/app/asc :d

pretty active ones
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this blocks been in the works for 20 years and goddammit its been worth it

i think we should be called the Prime Asc block \o/
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might b mistaken tho ive seen a few retals/hits/FCs co-oped by vsn/app/asc :d

pretty active ones
From what I can tell, there are only Ascendancy and Apprime in the joint attack channel. That doesn't mean individual members can't decide to work together though.
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I'd like to point out that yet again today the top 2 bashed planets on sandmans are subh. This has gone beyond epic and is approaching r30 levels of "I'm not really down with recalling to be honest".
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Have we reached the "if hude is defending they land " level yet ?
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its all rather sad to and yet kinda funny.
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Have we reached the "if hude is defending they land " level yet ?
They crashed only 5k illu on hude mission.
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They donated some good score to me though!


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Will subh last the rd ? And what affect will this have on keeping 1:2 in the race for top gal
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We should change our alliance name to subhirr
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Will subh last the rd ? And what affect will this have on keeping 1:2 in the race for top gal
Subh wont disband. Think most of those who will leave have left also now. Should take a 2nd and breath, and see what its aims are for the round. How to sort things, and stop total disaster ( more so than what already the case )
I cant see this having any massive affect on gal win?
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TBH this all happened because we didn't follow with our (errr, my) masterplan, which was to kill Asc first :P
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So let me get this straight, Euph/ND/Subh/DLR/CT (CENDS, pronounced you know how) or SENCS (for the salvage), attacks 3 1.
At the same time Subh gets some minor incs.
End result: negative score for subh, some emoing in subh and losing 2 members, crashing on 3 1.
Crashing of Euph on Valle, overall sense of victory in our camp.

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So let me get this straight, Euph/ND/Subh/DLR/CT (CENDS, pronounced you know how) or SENCS (for the salvage), attacks 3 1.
At the same time Subh gets some minor incs.
End result: negative score for subh, some emoing in subh and losing 2 members, crashing on 3 1.
Crashing of Euph on Valle, overall sense of victory in our camp.

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the loss of roids and value comes from crashes.
the 2 people quiting ( 1 left - 1 kicked ) had nothing to do with the incs or the attacks there today tbh.
Do see why u feel the night was a victory for ur side though.

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I think everyone's glad alki get roided to be honest. Now if only we could get jer to sign back up, get to 3k roids and then get roided to bits the world would be as it should.
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the loss of roids and value comes from crashes.
the 2 people quiting ( 1 left - 1 kicked ) had nothing to do with the incs or the attacks there today tbh.
Do see why u feel the night was a victory for ur side though.

( glad u guys let dlr roid alki. thanks <3 )

What about Blakcarahghg or however you spell that and all those peacekeepers staring into the void?

Sad thing is is that we miscalced the first wave on alki, that one was actually covered.
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Atleast hirr crashes are planned and full of quality. So including hirr in subh name is disgraceful!
Personally i don't see any quality in crashing, nor do i see whats the point of planning a crash, so ...

I guess this is not subh's round. We could have won though, the politics were not against us, we just shot ourselves in the foot by crashing sooo much. I wish i could say it's a pity we won't win and that it's an interesting round, but it's actually quite boring and i really don't care if we win or end dead last. I think we will survive the round with a committed core, and we'll see what happens next round.
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Well, there is an easy way out of a lot of focussed incomings Gio.
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hirr didnt crash they did lemming runs normally on whoever had been the shitest that round if i remember correctly
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I'm sorry, but mass crashing is always a quality issue, never "well, I guess we just got unlucky". Under normal, non-FC circumstances, keeping your fleet alive is pretty much the easiest thing to do in PA. If you can't even manage that, you'll never be in the running for #1, not even close.
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Re: Interesting change in politics

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think most in subh hate me now tbh, cause I yell at the crashers, while the others say we should teach them how to not crash.

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You usualy teach it before crashing, not after
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Re: Interesting change in politics

Looking at it from an entirely outside perspective, subh's profile on sandmans suggests that in terms of making an impression on this round, they're dead. They've been stagnant since PT 500, and it's days like this that are just an accumulation of what's happened before.

If they care about their long term future, they'd do well to pull out of this conflict, kick out all the people who crashed and getting cheap roids wherever they can find them.
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