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Unread 11 Aug 2017, 06:17   #51
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Re: R73 whine thread.

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Maybe Illuminati are close with Apprime but Illuminati are there own tag and have no intention of supporting Apprime as Apprime are playing a chilled round

And as for FAnG between 9 and 12 of the players are former bows and im not to sure that the whole 9 - 12 of them would have the influence politically to make decisions regarding relations.

Anyway were not talking about alliances that are napped/allied or have been friendly in the past were talking about an alliance having a 2nd tag controlled by the main tag
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Adapt I think you've been massively misinformed.

Illuminati is Apprimes
Support tag

It can be argued that Norse fall under this bracket too...

And Apprime are only playing this round to win. The nice thing is cardi spending 3 weeks in lith so it might actually happen this round !!
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Adapt I think you've been massively misinformed.

Illuminati is Apprimes
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It can be argued that Norse fall under this bracket too...

And Apprime are only playing this round to win. The nice thing is cardi spending 3 weeks in lith so it might actually happen this round !!
I was laughing about that post myself.
Seeing Nelito posted the recruitment thread for illuminators when he wasnt even apart of the tag last round might be a tell-tell what the tag is/was all about.
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No, there is only 2 alliances with support tags, your alliance and ultores, no others.
p3ng had 3mo.
Apprime has Illuminati.
Ultores has astatores.


I am not even going to the smaller allied tags, that makes hardly any difference.
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p3ng had 3mo.
Apprime has Illuminati.
Ultores has astatores.


I am not even going to the smaller allied tags, that makes hardly any difference.
Well seeing there is no emo this round, perhaps he thinks your ultores?
Would make sense, only App and Ult with support tag.
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Well seeing there is no emo this round, perhaps he thinks your ultores?
Would make sense, only App and Ult with support tag.

there will be emo this round, i know ave is KittenZ, he is an idiot that doesn't understand planetarion, its understandable saying as he has not played in 30 rounds
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Unread 13 Aug 2017, 07:42   #57
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there will be emo this round, i know ave is KittenZ, he is an idiot that doesn't understand planetarion, its understandable saying as he has not played in 30 rounds
Ave is no idiot

He's played two proper rounds in the last two rounds as HC. He's won one and third in the other.

A similar percentage record to agares with ult right ?
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Ave is no idiot

He's played two proper rounds in the last two rounds as HC. He's won one and third in the other.

A similar percentage record to agares with ult right ?
While he claims that CatZ/LionZ whatever isnt a KittenZ support tag, and that they played seperately all round, you say as he was HC of CatZ he was also HC of KittenZ at the same time?

While KittenZ and FAnG screwed up R71 completely with their politics, they did manage to get top planets and 3rd place.
CT has been critized for aiming for top3 in the past, now we are praising them?

Atleast lets we should try be more consistent in what we value/claim eh
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While he claims that CatZ/LionZ whatever isnt a KittenZ support tag, and that they played seperately all round, you say as he was HC of CatZ he was also HC of KittenZ at the same time?

While KittenZ and FAnG screwed up R71 completely with their politics, they did manage to get top planets and 3rd place.
CT has been critized for aiming for top3 in the past, now we are praising them?

Atleast lets we should try be more consistent in what we value/claim eh
Catz/Kittenz was the same thing. lions/Kittenz is the same thing.

There is no glory in aiming for 3rd place.

I was simply making the point that Ave (as HC) has played two rounds. He came 3rd and 1st. I think that's a big deal. I also think you can't call someone a 'idiot' when they have a record like that.
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While he claims that CatZ/LionZ whatever isnt a KittenZ support tag, and that they played seperately all round, you say as he was HC of CatZ he was also HC of KittenZ at the same time?

While KittenZ and FAnG screwed up R71 completely with their politics, they did manage to get top planets and 3rd place.
CT has been critized for aiming for top3 in the past, now we are praising them?

Atleast lets we should try be more consistent in what we value/claim eh
I understand PA enough to avoid it, untill the choises are down to this. No offence to any developers and great game runners in here. It is the community that were ill. The game itself has its flaws and sides.

If you cant read in between the lines, I am saying that anyone who applies to kittenz or lionz gets to play with the same ideals and not receive some def oriented orders for 2nd class citizens. But ofc we still wanted to help secure the win in r72 as we had the tools for it. A few dropped some ranks in t100 due to it. But am sure all agrees it was worth it. Due visiting fang shortly for some def boost our co-operation in between the tags were minimal untill the last part of the round, when we got back to our original formation.

r71 We were tried to be bullied in to political decisions, when we obviously show u the finger and carry on. We also weren't nowhere near state to compete from rank 1 as we were still building up as an alliance. If u ask me, Ult deserved the win far more than p3ng ending 2nd. All the credit for their offence also during that round though.

In all honesty, do you think that turning on Ult and bringing it down would have resulted in a better ranking? while the others were blocked from tick 0. its not like we suddenly would have become a first prior in their friend lists.
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Re: R73 whine thread.

Is it just me that finds it funny and ironic that people bitched and moaned about ult/app having 60+ planets but no one has bat an eyelid at kittenz having 100+????

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Is it just me that finds it funny and ironic that people bitched and moaned about ult/app having 60+ planets but no one has bat an eyelid at kittenz having 100+????

Good going AD
If you bothered to read up the thread then you would see that we have been talking about it.
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Re: R73 whine thread.

Back to the round.....

Who is winning? who will win?

and...

Who is the biggest looser?
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Re: R73 whine thread.

Based on faced def there are more people playing defence than for real. Stats fail. ���� Nice to see some strong comebacks of ult fang vgn and nd tho.
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Based on faced def there are more people playing defence than for real.
Think its just generaly more alliances playing than last round.
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Re: R73 whine thread.

BF is gone.
Bows is gone.

Norse is back.

Ofc most tags are more full tho.

If u mean with playing as in making an effort, than we can discuss again
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BF is gone.
Bows is gone.

Norse is back.

Ofc most tags are more full tho.

If u mean with playing as in making an effort, than we can discuss again
Summer rounds usualy less busy.
Ult/Bows/BF all said they wernt playing last round too serious aswell.
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There is a disturbance in the force, like 30000 Buccaneers cried out in pain before they went silent
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Re: R73 whine thread.

I declare that illu ain't apprime support tag, and that we will join ultores and penguins in there vendetta vs the potato pickers
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I declare that illu ain't apprime support tag, and that we will join ultores and penguins in there vendetta vs the potato pickers
you arent even playing in Illuminati pal!
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Who are the potatoe pickers?
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Apprime are referred to as potato pickers due to CarDi being from Northern Ireland.
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Apprime are referred to as potato pickers due to CarDi being from Northern Ireland.
The liths were original known as fruit pickers as they came to western Europe en masse to do menial, underpaid labour jobs like fruit picking. Slave shit.

I would like to say the potato bit is a jibe at the fact cardi lives in Ireland but it's from nelito, and he isn't that witty!
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19 days with no comment on AD, the most boring round ever?
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Worst round ever.

Buccs init 5 while noo Xan ship goes bellow init 7. Says enough, terrible set of stats.
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Worst round ever.

Buccs init 5 while noo Xan ship goes bellow init 7. Says enough, terrible set of stats.
I think the stats set suited the round pretty well.
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Re: R73 whine thread.

You've confused cause and effect.
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Oh, what a surprise... There is a 360man block and the round feels boring. Even Nostradamus could not have foreseen that.

Btw: which one is the Forest alliance? LionZ?
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Yeah, perhaps you are right. But if the stats were different, it might have brought something else out of the round.
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Re: R73 whine thread.

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Yeah, perhaps you are right. But if the stats were different, it might have brought something else out of the round.
Like some kind of all 'etd' stats?
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Yeah, perhaps you are right. But if the stats were different, it might have brought something else out of the round.
Its hard to understand what you think went wrong this round from your posts.
The pre-round blocks?
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Re: R73 whine thread.

shocking aweful stats
but even more shocking to see apprime crashing everything away

no guts to fight to the end, since you know you loose ?
no respect for that attitude really

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shocking aweful stats
but even more shocking to see apprime crashing everything away

no guts to fight to the end, since you know you loose ?
no respect for that attitude really

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Since u aint playing you obviously dont know whats going on then.
P3ng/ult continued their "stop app from winning at all cost" from last round.
Ult/p3ng NAPed everyone else untill EOR, by the looks of it, so they could troll app instead.
This kinda personal vendetta mentality is silly and destructive
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Re: R73 whine thread.

Bitcher still playing last round?

Seems to be a bit more diverse. It looks like the vgn, kittenz, Lionz, ND block made a preround agreement with the app, illu, HR block. The main goals for the alliances were a bit different:

Ult: chill round
App: win at all costs
Illu: app multis
HR: do what Cardi says
ND: win
CT: chill round and piggy attacks on ult
Kittenz: crashroid ult to secure app win
Vgn: fence and get roids
Norse: waiting for someone to piss them of and strike back
LionZ: no strategy and goal at all
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Since u aint playing you obviously dont know whats going on then.
P3ng/ult continued their "stop app from winning at all cost" from last round.
Ult/p3ng NAPed everyone else untill EOR, by the looks of it, so they could troll app instead.
This kinda personal vendetta mentality is silly and destructive
As usual you are massively misinformed. I don't believe that Ultores continued their 'stop app at all costs' mentality, rather Ultores supported p3n because App were 'bullying' them. And besides, carDi had been bragging about his 'massive block' in reserve against Ultores.

Mid-round, Ultores took the brunt of the Universe when App/Kittenz/Lionz/HR/VGN blocked them. It wasn't until the latter part of the round when Ult managed to secure a couple of NAPs to reduce incoming. So your assessment where you said:

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P3ng/ult continued their "stop app from winning at all cost" from last round.
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Ult/p3ng NAPed everyone else untill EOR, by the looks of it, so they could troll app instead.
Is clearly massively incorrect. Even if this wasn't the case, why on earth wouldn't Ultores war App, their #1 and main threat for the win? Should they have let App grow exponentially to the point where their value would be impossible to stop?

You say Ultores were trolling, I say they were eliminating a threat.
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since u aint playing you obviously dont know whats going on then.
P3ng/ult continued their "stop app from winning at all cost" from last round.
Ult/p3ng naped everyone else untill eor, by the looks of it, so they could troll app instead.
This kinda personal vendetta mentality is silly and destructive
lol! Clueless
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As usual you are massively misinformed. I don't believe that Ultores continued their 'stop app at all costs' mentality.
If its not stop App at all cost, why aint Ult switching targetting to the tags above them?
You rarely end up in a situation mid round where you have agree to EOR NAPs with every tag beside one tag basicly.
Yet Ultores seems to end up in this situation more often than not.

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Mid-round, Ultores took the brunt of the Universe when App/Kittenz/Lionz/HR/VGN blocked them. It wasn't until the latter part of the round when Ult managed to secure a couple of NAPs to reduce incoming. So your assessment where you said:
Mid round Ult, according to your own inc stats, had experinced, by the looks of it, half the incs of every other tag basicly, even though they were sitting on far more roids than everyone else.
That the fattest tags get inc at some part of the round is natural, and most often hose incs will disapear when the roids are gone.


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Is clearly massively incorrect. Even if this wasn't the case, why on earth wouldn't Ultores war App, their #1 and main threat for the win? Should they have let App grow exponentially to the point where their value would be impossible to stop?

You say Ultores were trolling, I say they were eliminating a threat.
It would be fair to say that the "main threat" was eliminated quite some time ago.
Why have ult been continuing to hit app when they arnt the biggest tag, especially this late in the round? Nobody is pointing fingers at Ult for hitting em in the first place, i just find it destructive to keep hitting someone when theyve been neuatralized to some extent.
"We wont break deals" BS is getting a bit old, why would you agree to deals wich meant you had no other tags to hit except App untill the round was over in the first place?
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If its not stop App at all cost, why aint Ult switching targetting to the tags above them?
You rarely end up in a situation mid round where you have agree to EOR NAPs with every tag beside one tag basicly.
Yet Ultores seems to end up in this situation more often than not.



Mid round Ult, according to your own inc stats, had experinced, by the looks of it, half the incs of every other tag basicly, even though they were sitting on far more roids than everyone else.
That the fattest tags get inc at some part of the round is natural, and most often hose incs will disapear when the roids are gone.




It would be fair to say that the "main threat" was eliminated quite some time ago.
Why have ult been continuing to hit app when they arnt the biggest tag, especially this late in the round? Nobody is pointing fingers at Ult for hitting em in the first place, i just find it destructive to keep hitting someone when theyve been neuatralized to some extent.
"We wont break deals" BS is getting a bit old, why would you agree to deals wich meant you had no other tags to hit except App untill the round was over in the first place?

Little confused here.. As often with your posts.. Although I have missed them since round since you retired from PA.

Just FYI

Ult was getting 250-300 incommings a night with no signs of that changing. The only way for the incs to lessen and for Ult to be able to fight for survival was to NAP some of those hostiles. They managed to nap ND and some sort of more friendly deal with VGN. The ND deal was EOR to protect Ult at the time and for ND perspective to protect them from Ult inc until EOR.

Now Ult have destroyed Apprime with a couple days left of the round. Ult allies have of course helped like App allied helped hitting Ult. Although Ult never died like app did. Apprime simply lost the will to survive any longer. I do believe Apprime are in "round off mode" anyhow...

So what you are saying is, Ult should break their deal with ND to attempt to win in the final stages? It is Ult's prerogative to never break deals as this is a continually game where previous rounds are often looked upon.

The Pre Round Super Block wins this round and what a fantastic round they have had. NewDawn / VGN & KittenzLionz (well 4 tags but 3 different groups of players) stuck together all round and one of them wins. They did exactly what they set out to do. And IF NewDawn win (looks likely) they have achieved great success.
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Ult was getting 250-300 incommings a night with no signs of that changing. The only way for the incs to lessen and for Ult to be able to fight for survival was to NAP some of those hostiles. They managed to nap ND and some sort of more friendly deal with VGN. The ND deal was EOR to protect Ult at the time and for ND perspective to protect them from Ult inc until EOR.

Now Ult have destroyed Apprime with a couple days left of the round. Ult allies have of course helped like App allied helped hitting Ult. Although Ult never died like app did. Apprime simply lost the will to survive any longer. I do believe Apprime are in "round off mode" anyhow...
Sometimes you have to ride it out, of course the incs would eventualy would most likely stop at some point. It was half way through the round.
One of the fine things in this game is that you cant destroy planets, the only thing Ult managed to do was to stop Apprime from winning. Wich was the initial point i tried to make.
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So what you are saying is, Ult should break their deal with ND to attempt to win in the final stages? It is Ult's prerogative to never break deals as this is a continually game where previous rounds are often looked upon.
What im saying is what ive always said basicly. Stop making deals that locks you into giving up the possibility going for the win.. But the intention with such a deal was never to try going for the win, but to troll apprime by the looks of it.

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The Pre Round Super Block wins this round and what a fantastic round they have had. NewDawn / VGN & KittenzLionz (well 4 tags but 3 different groups of players) stuck together all round and one of them wins. They did exactly what they set out to do. And IF NewDawn win (looks likely) they have achieved great success.
Yeah, what an achievement eh.
If the other half of the universe will follow up on this it could get interesting though, i think one of those old times full block rounds could be fun
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Re: R73 whine thread.

dumb dumb

When left with the choice of napping one contender to unground and actually make a movement on another or roll over and die midround, you take the first. Sorry if it didn't suit your petty vendettawars with erm, everyone? Now try to do pols when you're considered a dangerous contender for #1 instead of from your personal point of view, and you'll see that favourable deals can be created once every 3 rounds, the rest of the time it comes down to piecing together a set of unfavourable deals into a situation where you have a shot.

I would be happy to hear your thoughts on what you would have done if fang was in ults shoes midround with apprime, newdawn, illuminati, vgn, kittenz, lionz and hr coordinating on you and all being napped up? How would you mr high IQ have turned that into a situation where you were winning, instead of "only" being within 10 mill with 3 days to go?
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dumb dumb

When left with the choice of napping one contender to unground and actually make a movement on another or roll over and die midround, you take the first. Sorry if it didn't suit your petty vendettawars with erm, everyone? Now try to do pols when you're considered a dangerous contender for #1 instead of from your personal point of view, and you'll see that favourable deals can be created once every 3 rounds, the rest of the time it comes down to piecing together a set of unfavourable deals into a situation where you have a shot.

I would be happy to hear your thoughts on what you would have done if fang was in ults shoes midround with apprime, newdawn, illuminati, vgn, kittenz, lionz and hr coordinating on you and all being napped up? How would you mr high IQ have turned that into a situation where you were winning, instead of "only" being within 10 mill with 3 days to go?
He doesn't know his IQ, he got stuck on the first question and never finished.
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dumb dumb

When left with the choice of napping one contender to unground and actually make a movement on another or roll over and die midround, you take the first. Sorry if it didn't suit your petty vendettawars with erm, everyone? Now try to do pols when you're considered a dangerous contender for #1 instead of from your personal point of view, and you'll see that favourable deals can be created once every 3 rounds, the rest of the time it comes down to piecing together a set of unfavourable deals into a situation where you have a shot.

I would be happy to hear your thoughts on what you would have done if fang was in ults shoes midround with apprime, newdawn, illuminati, vgn, kittenz, lionz and hr coordinating on you and all being napped up? How would you mr high IQ have turned that into a situation where you were winning, instead of "only" being within 10 mill with 3 days to go?
I would prolly just given up the roids, and gone in 3 fleet attack mode vs what ever tag that would pay off the best for XP if i had to chose between that and going into "troll apprime mode untill EOR", die trying as always. Thats what most of the people ive played with finds entertaining.
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I would prolly just given up the roids, and gone in 3 fleet attack mode vs what ever tag that would pay off the best for XP if i had to chose between that and going into "troll apprime mode untill EOR", die trying as always. Thats what most of the people ive played with finds entertaining.
Incase you havent noticed, you never win alliance so you pretending to know whats best is utterly moronic.
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Re: R73 whine thread.

Butch3r: your assessment of last round is wrong. Clouds has it right when he picked up on cardinal. He basically drove everything through his block and when p3n surprised him with a sucker punch he clearly decided it was better to given kittenz the win than try to win himself at the risk of catastrophe. If you were not in that block (ie ultores) you would have to be daft not to try to oppose it.
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