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SiNND
3 8 SiNND 56953 100 1,696,352 169,635,214
A new alliance arises a combined effort has started and gone to 3rd place.
What do you think?
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8 May 2005, 21:23
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Re: SiNND
fighting a lost cause, doing anythign to win, which wont happen. need more?
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8 May 2005, 21:27
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Theh Muffin Man \o/
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Re: SiNND
Why didn't ND merge with 1up? They've been playing as one alliance for long enough haven't they?
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8 May 2005, 21:29
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Faithful Pony
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Re: SiNND
What are you on about ND would never merge with anyone
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8 May 2005, 21:39
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Re: SiNND
lets just see were this goes?
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8 May 2005, 21:50
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Re: SiNND
Hehe, i won't complain. LCH and HR did something similar a few rounds ago (resulting in FYTFO) and we were massacred in AD for it. :-)
If they did it, then hurray for them, let them, i don't care. As long as they didn't kick mass members to make it 100, like some other alliance did last round or the round before (forgot which one)
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8 May 2005, 21:52
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Re: SiNND
less complaints here so far than i expect o_O
i bet people would complain if angels and exil kicked the inactives and merged tho!
lifes not fair i tells yee
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8 May 2005, 22:03
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Remy
As long as they didn't kick mass members to make it 100, like some other alliance did last round or the round before (forgot which one)
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8 May 2005, 22:04
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Re: SiNND
to be honest i am shoked, that someone in the PATEAM authed such merge, i remember kal saying once that he wouldnt merge an alliance if this would affect directly the ranking in top5.
Basically, i dont have any problem with ND and sin merging and joining force, but knowing this will be a short term merging (like FYFTO) and they are ranked now #3, which mean they misplaced around 10 alliances in their way up, i am way dissapointed with PATEAM.
I claim this has been done without very much thinking about such impact on the Planetarion memberbase.
We are customer paying and playing for our alliances to win and end top1, or ranked high, joining such force is like bypassing or ruining work that some alliance down there have been putting in for the whole round.
What the next step? merging exilition with another alliance to take out #1? merging 1up with another alliance to take #2? will the admin grant such merge or will it be a one time bribed merge?
As paid customer i expect the admin to bend rules for not only few players but for the whole, which mean whoever will request to merge, it has to be validated by the admin because they done that in the past, we should see a rush of alliance asking to merge just to take on the fight and get "ranks" without fighting really.
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8 May 2005, 22:04
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Re: SiNND
erm, am I missing something? shouldn't those players have to be 3days without alliances? since technically they are leaving one alliance and joining another one, right? or did they manage to go 3days without ally def and not get all massacred? o.O
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8 May 2005, 22:07
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Re: SiNND
Alch, a few remarks:
- It is permitted in the rules
- It is not permitted in the last 4 weeks
A quick calculation gives all alliance the chance to do this too for 3 more days :P
Lets have a merger party and make PA even more ridiculous
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Originally Posted by Sun_Tzu
erm, am I missing something? shouldn't those players have to be 3days without alliances? since technically they are leaving one alliance and joining another one, right? or did they manage to go 3days without ally def and not get all massacred? o.O
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The admins will merge alliances on request, as long as both alliances memberbase doesnt exceed 100. So no 3 days of fear.
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Lol well ND were down what, 17 members?
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That many huh? borders on unacceptable, but im sure ND had 17 worthless members anyways ^^
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8 May 2005, 22:15
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Re: SiNND
[22:07] <Kal> any request for merging will be dealt with in the manner dictated on the alliances page of the manual
[22:07] <Kal> if people object to the rule sin the manual there is a thread on merging on the suggestions forum
[22:08] <Kal> but we cannot change the rules just becuase we don;t like the affect it might have in a particular case
the discussion in question can be found here - http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=184992
Last round the period in which merging couldn't happen was only 2 weeksm now it is 4 weeks which is nearly half of the round - this should give plenty of time for people to iinflict any revenge on the alliance in question that they may want to.
As to the number of people who lost a rank it was 7-8 alliances not 10-11, and of course remember that a lot of other alliances gained a rank as well. Judging from ND's perfomrance over the round - they have had a lot of incoming so I personally believe this merge was about attempting to survive for the rest of the round rather than an attempt to pull of a miraculous finish to it.
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8 May 2005, 22:16
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Re: SiNND
1 word .... Pathetic.
The only reason 2 alliances would merge this late (2 low quality alliances) is to have a higher rank (which is easy with 100 members). Too bad you'll be remembered as alliances that played a very bad round, rather then achieving to finish #3 ...
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8 May 2005, 22:21
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Angels for life !
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Kal
As to the number of people who lost a rank it was 7-8 alliances not 10-11, and of course remember that a lot of other alliances gained a rank as well. Judging from ND's perfomrance over the round - they have had a lot of incoming so I personally believe this merge was about attempting to survive for the rest of the round rather than an attempt to pull of a miraculous finish to it.
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what a load of crap Kal. It affects every alliance in the top10, it affects every PA player. Another marvellous screwup on your (Pateam) watch I guess
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8 May 2005, 22:21
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Hired Thug
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
1 word .... Pathetic.
The only reason 2 alliances would merge this late (2 low quality alliances) is to have a higher rank (which is easy with 100 members). Too bad you'll be remembered as alliances that played a very bad round, rather then achieving to finish #3 ...
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your post couldn't have been more "EXACTLY AS EXPECTED" lol, your a classy guy....I bought an extra box of tissues just for you Kj... so keep the waterworks coming
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8 May 2005, 22:24
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[SiN] HC
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
1 word .... Pathetic.
(2 low quality alliances)
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better than the pos you're in...
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8 May 2005, 22:26
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Angels for life !
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Cedlind
better than the pos you're in...
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lol, unlike Sin and ND, we achieved where we are on our own, with a small memberbase. But this thread isn't about us, it's about how to influence the alliance rankings and thereby screwing over alliances that actually worked for their ranks instead of mass merging (which imo every alliance can, yes even the Borg alliance ...)
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8 May 2005, 22:29
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Re: SiNND
Kjeli, all you ever do is complain, when your alliance does what it has to do, you complain at people for doing exactly what you are doing now. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. So shut up.
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8 May 2005, 22:30
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Re: SiNND
In my humble opinion top10 alliancces should not be allowed to merge, nor two (three? what's next?) alliances who would become top10 after the merger.
The alliances such a combo "overtakes" have played the last 900+ ticks for their rank. If they loose a rank due two alliances merging, and not by an alliance who just outplayed them, it's quite bitter for those alliances.
In this case it were an #11 and #17 ranked alliance I believe, combining this in an #3 alliance is just immoral imho.
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Reason: wrong rank for ND, #10 --> #11
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8 May 2005, 22:31
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Random weird guy
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Re: SiNND
what happened to all the flowers and pretty people ?
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8 May 2005, 22:34
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Behe
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Re: SiNND
If I was ND or Sin, the merge makes perfect sense. As another top 10 alliance member I think their merge causes the top 10 alliance rankings to be all smoke and mirrors. To the PAteam, the merge is within the rules so they have no choice but to merge the two even though it is to the detriment of the general dynamics of the game. All in all i say
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8 May 2005, 22:34
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SiN
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: SiNND
ok seriously STFU or get out.
PA is a game, merging is part of the game, so go find someone who gives a damn about your little jelousy problem.
Who gives a flying duck.
Jeez so many people who got nothing better to do than complain about stuff that doesnt matter. Go get a lil alliance to merge if you want.
Gawdamn
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8 May 2005, 22:35
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: SiNND
end of the day....we basically took 2 alliances, who were allied by the way, and combined the active players...it's not a Sin..(excuse the pun) we simply decided it the best way to allow our members to enjoy the round and stay active, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it as it's completely within the rules... we're not stalking teenagers, we're not using VNC to log in 40 planets to handle inbounds...we're not digging mass graves and executing your pets....we simply merged active players from two friendly alliances. It's not the first time it's happened, and it isn't the last, as long as the game rules allow it.
Go play your game, leave the whining out...it doesn't impress anyone
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Who gives a flying duck.
Gawdamn
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8 May 2005, 22:35
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Join Date: May 2000
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by General Martok
In my humble opinion top10 alliancces should not be allowed to merge, nor two (three? what's next?) alliances who would become top10 after the merger.
The alliances such a combo "overtakes" have played the last 900+ ticks for their rank. If they loose a rank due two alliances merging, and not by an alliance who just outplayed them, it's quite bitter for those alliances.
In this case it were an #10 and #17 ranked alliance I believe, combining this in an #3 alliance is just immoral imho.
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Theh Muffin Man \o/
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Kal
As to the number of people who lost a rank it was 7-8 alliances not 10-11, and of course remember that a lot of other alliances gained a rank as well. Judging from ND's perfomrance over the round - they have had a lot of incoming so I personally believe this merge was about attempting to survive for the rest of the round rather than an attempt to pull of a miraculous finish to it.
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Thats all well and good until you realise that those 7-8 alliances were the top 3-10 alliances, most of whom had (not that they still don't) a shot at the top spot. If that's not a significant impact that should be considered for a lot longer than it seems to have been before being aproved then what is? For instance if two of the smaller elite alliances merged e.g. ToT, Angels, or Exil, then that would only disrupt 7-8 alliance rankings too, but the community would be in uproar as it would no doubt create the number 1 alliance. But at what point would you dissallow a merger... if it made the number 1 alliance, number 2, number 3 (obviously not)? As for the ND had loads of incoming arguments... although i can't find their graphs available anywhere as they no longer exist, I'm quite certain it was no different to any other alliance, 1up, ND, HR, Angels, LCH, Exiliton, Wolfpack, NoS, have all had periods of high incomings directed at them and i'm pretty certain ND didn't have more than alot of them especially looking at the recent graphs for Wolfpack, LCH and Exilition which have been juggling up and down like mad recently. I think it's a poor decision to have taken so suddenly, even if it's not directly against the rules, you (the PA team that is) should have realised this would have a sizeable impact, and at least consulted the community first. Just cause something isn't against the rules doesn't mean it shouldn't be reconsidered when you realise something may not be quite right, e.g. you did it with the scoring system when you realised the weighting of XP is fundamentily too heavy, so you should do it now when merging two alliances creates one that disrupts the rankings of so many top 10 alliances surely?
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8 May 2005, 22:38
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Behe
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by fizzyxl
ok seriously STFU or get out.
PA is a game, merging is part of the game, so go find someone who gives a damn about your little jelousy problem.
Who gives a flying duck.
Jeez so many people who got nothing better to do than complain about stuff that doesnt matter. Go get a lil alliance to merge if you want.
Gawdamn
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Well you are now the number 3 alliance and you have done nothing to deserve it. So I think complaints should be heard. Its not jealousy , its the fact that 2 mediocre alliances combined in order to try and be a super power and have stolen the number 3 spot.
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Re: SiNND
I would like to highlight that Angels did in fact last round switch a member in the last tick to gain over 10 million points and nudge SiN out of the top 10.
The tables have turned KJ, and I'm not one to look favourably on hypocrites.
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8 May 2005, 22:39
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SiN
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: SiNND
laughs... so sad that people are flaming people wanting to have fun in a game they paid for too...
go play with your action men
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8 May 2005, 22:40
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Join Date: May 2004
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Fyodor
Well you are now the number 3 alliance and you have done nothing to deserve it. So I think complaints should be heard. Its not jealousy , its the fact that 2 mediocre alliances combined in order to try and be a super power and have stolen the number 3 spot.
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actually we did something to deserve it, we made a tactical decision, well within the games rules, to improve our situation....
it's what good commanders do, they evaluate, learn from what they are presented with, improvise... adapt...overcome
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8 May 2005, 22:41
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Re: SiNND
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Well you are now the number 3 alliance and you have done nothing to deserve it. .
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ofc we deserve it. We got the score fairly didnt we? just as 2 seperte parts.
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Re: SiNND
Firstly there was saving all ur res for the last few days to gain ranks...
What now, wait til the end to merge into the #1 position?
Next round i'll be looking out for the 2 alliances with 50-ish members waiting to merge with 4 weeks to go
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8 May 2005, 22:42
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk
actually we did something to deserve it, we made a tactical decision, well within the games rules, to improve our situation....
it's what good commanders do, they evaluate, learn from what they are presented with, and improvise
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I agree it was a good tactical decision. But making 1 good tactical decision all round doesnt mean you deserve the #3 spot
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Re: SiNND
you do that... its called tactics dont like it go play pokemon
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8 May 2005, 22:43
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Re: SiNND
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ofc we deserve it. We got the score fairly didnt we? just as 2 seperte parts.
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you cant honestly believe that?
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8 May 2005, 22:46
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Re: SiNND
yes we can. seriously im saddened that you people cant just get on with the damn game. its simple. you want to finish higher? go work for it, its what we will have to do and what everyone will have to do. Its a Merge between 2 allies... so what? we are 3rd.,... so what? you are boring us to death with your 12 year old tantrum... grow up. Play the game and cry at the end if/when you dont win but till then just play and have some fun. after all its only a damn game.
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Re: SiNND
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you cant honestly believe that?
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think about it for a minute...we did attack the same basic targets all round......we have faded incoming from the same enemies......
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8 May 2005, 22:47
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Angels for life !
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Gumbie
I would like to highlight that Angels did in fact last round switch a member in the last tick to gain over 10 million points and nudge SiN out of the top 10.
The tables have turned KJ, and I'm not one to look favourably on hypocrites.
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I guess It's payback time then
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8 May 2005, 22:49
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Behe
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by fizzyxl
its simple. you want to finish higher? go work for it, its what we will have to do and what everyone will have to do.
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Contradicting yourself there pal. Fact is, you didnt work for it. But like I said earlier it was a smart move on sin/nd parts. But 1 smart move doesnt mean you deserve the #3 spot.
On a side note, im happy to see three different threads going with lots of shitetalking, rubbish and drama. Ive been jonzing for some ad action for a while
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8 May 2005, 22:51
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: SiNND
What's the big fuzz about? SiN and ND merged? so what?
For me, nothing has changed. It's actually even better, since the active ND and SiN will have better chances to take part in the round from now on. There is nothing illegal in it, it's a strategic option, and was well timed. There's lots of time for SiNND to show how they work as one alliance, and we will see us on the battlefield.
I actually quite like this merge, means that ND and SiN will be more motivated to fight now, which means more action and more battles to fight.
(Btw, i am in Angels, so don't get any wrong impressions, we will still pwn your asses at the end of the day )
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Re: SiNND
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I would like to highlight that Angels did in fact last round switch a member in the last tick to gain over 10 million points and nudge SiN out of the top 10.
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and they made it without the respective member being allianceless for 3 days? i don't remember THAT.
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part time ghost
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Fyodor
you cant honestly believe that?
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Argue against it? I am finding it hard to disbelieve... give me a reason to?
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used to register
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 979
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by aNgRyDuCk
think about it for a minute...we did attack the same basic targets all round......we have faded incoming from the same enemies......
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Oh yeah, #11 and #17 ranked alliances are targetted just as hard as an #3 ranked alliance
Get real.
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R1: ??:?? | R2: 51:6 | R3: 37:12 | R4: 186:13 | R5: 13:17 | R6: 1:25
R7: 15:14 | R8: 34:4 / 52:10 ¤ | R9: 16:2 | R9.5: 34:6 / 41:6 ¤
R10: 2:2 | R10.5: 15:4 | R11: 28:8 | R12: 22:9
Damn, outdated and too lazy to edit, retired now
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Started playing again Still too lazy to update though
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8 May 2005, 22:54
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Faithful Pony
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: England
Posts: 72
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Re: SiNND
ND's avg score without inactives 1.7 mil
SiN's avg score without inactives 1.6 mil
So yeah we earned where we are individually and collectively.
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8 May 2005, 22:54
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Ambiguous Anachronism
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 282
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Kal
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As to the number of people who lost a rank it was 7-8 alliances not 10-11, and of course remember that a lot of other alliances gained a rank as well.
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Surely one alliance going from rank 18 to 17 has the same impact as another alliance going from 3 to 4. YES, i clearly see it.
But i must admit all complaints are void as it's in the rules, although i cannot see why
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8 May 2005, 22:54
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Illinois USA
Posts: 894
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by General Martok
Oh yeah, #11 and #17 ranked alliances are targetted just as hard as an #3 ranked alliance
Get real.
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tell ya what Martok, we weren't sitting at #11 because we were sitting around taking long walks in the moonlight....we have faded as much incoming as any alliance in the game, you can count on that...
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8 May 2005, 22:56
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SiN HC
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
Posts: 217
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Envious
and they made it without the respective member being allianceless for 3 days? i don't remember THAT.
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And the reward for going the 3 days without 1 tick defence eta advantage, was that it was possible to do in the last tick with 0 response time. The essence of just taking in players to boost your score and increase your rank remains.
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<InitHello> Gumbie: you are a wise and perceptive man
<Gumbie> hurray!
<Gumbie> about what?
<toot> of course at a cow
<toot> what do you think
<Tearz> I mean... like theres anythign else to do with a bazooka
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8 May 2005, 22:57
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Arrogant Fck
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 1,031
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Re: SiNND
Ok, obviously anyone can see the opposition are pissed off, but I wanna know how SiN/ND's allies are feeling, especially those loosing ranks due to this or those having one more contender for the top3-ranks to beat :P
Naturally, we won't be allowed to see this side of the story though as I'm sure it's been clamped down on to uphold a showing of unity.
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8 May 2005, 22:59
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Hired Thug
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Illinois USA
Posts: 894
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Re: SiNND
our job as Command Cadre, is to do whatever we need to do to put our members in the best possible position to enjoy the round, we've done that....nothing more....it's nothing personal to anyone, and it certainly wasn't done to get everyone so upset thjat they need to start group counseling or buy anti depressants.....it was a decision we made, as alliance command, to help our members enjoy PA.......you wan't to argue that with me, you better pack a lunch, because you'll be here a while
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8 May 2005, 23:02
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SiN HC
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: England
Posts: 217
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Re: SiNND
<3 packlunch
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<InitHello> Gumbie: you are a wise and perceptive man
<Gumbie> hurray!
<Gumbie> about what?
<toot> of course at a cow
<toot> what do you think
<Tearz> I mean... like theres anythign else to do with a bazooka
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8 May 2005, 23:02
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Ambiguous Anachronism
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 282
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Re: SiNND
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Originally Posted by Gumbie
And the reward for going the 3 days without 1 tick defence eta advantage, was that it was possible to do in the last tick with 0 response time. The essence of just taking in players to boost your score and increase your rank remains.
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Noone would have said anything if SiN would just have kicked all members and told them to join ND.
PS: I'm not saying this because i'm so upset. I'm actually not, as i don't play actively this round. But you don't seem to realize that we are talking about 2 entirely different things here.
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