Let the fun begin...attack on LDK planet

[lrytas]

Dont play pa, visit school more
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Herbal Vaporizers

[mazzelaar]

Originally posted by lrytas
Dont play pa, visit school more ;(

Is anyone capable of answering a question in a polite manner anymore? I simply asked how they came to the figures - ie what were the total score loss and gain for LDK for the evening?

Now that we have had several "yer fik as pig****!!!!111 me > j00" answer does someone actually wanna give the one I Asked for?

HC's should set a better example Lyrtas, you sound like a 12 year old kid with his stock answer of "I know you are, you said you are so what am I?".

I understand the statement I made about 12M, salvage etc was out of context with the original statement but I couldn't be arsed to edit it as I still wondered what the atual figures for score loss/gain were.

Now do we think it possible for someone to rise above thier mental retardation and actually give me the answer I Was asking for?

[SilverSmoke]

Originally posted by mazzelaar

mental retardation

there are special schools for your type

[mazzelaar]

Originally posted by SilverSmoke
there are special schools for your type

And this is evidently the only place people with your lack of mental agility are allowed to write.

It's not hard - it was a question, noithing more. Are you all so twisted that you can't even manage to answer a simple question with some fairly straightforward numbers that I as a peon and lazy fker (cba to read through pilkara) are not privy to?

Forget it, as long as some of your ships were killed thats good enough.

/me off to play golf - have a good one :P

[cypher]

Originally posted by mazzelaar
Is anyone capable of answering a question in a polite manner anymore? I simply asked how they came to the figures - ie what were the total score loss and gain for LDK for the evening?

Now that we have had several "yer fik as pig****!!!!111 me > j00" answer does someone actually wanna give the one I Asked for?

HC's should set a better example Lyrtas, you sound like a 12 year old kid with his stock answer of "I know you are, you said you are so what am I?".

I understand the statement I made about 12M, salvage etc was out of context with the original statement but I couldn't be arsed to edit it as I still wondered what the atual figures for score loss/gain were.

Now do we think it possible for someone to rise above thier mental retardation and actually give me the answer I Was asking for?

i think the stats were posted earlier on already...? read that :P

p.s.! always fun to be attacked when you go out:P

[mazzelaar]

Originally posted by cyphie
i think the stats were posted earlier on already...? read that :P

p.s.! always fun to be attacked when you go out:P

thank you

an answer, not neccessarily theone I was after but a start

I'll have another browse through the forums, the only figure I've seen bandied about so far is the final total of 12M but I Was just interested to know what the total of loss/gain seperately were.

[gadas]

Originally posted by mazzelaar
thank you

an answer, not neccessarily theone I was after but a start

I'll have another browse through the forums, the only figure I've seen bandied about so far is the final total of 12M but I Was just interested to know what the total of loss/gain seperately were.

12mil was taken from ldk arbiter

ldk has 250k roids so you can calculate day growth by yourself
formula to calculate total loss: 12 mil + growth
hope you can manage to calc yourself now

PS: if not ask Storebo for help

[Razorback]

Originally posted by zerocore
Seems u guys have problems with calcing , let me explain u something:

Growth - Loss = -12M
Loss = 12M + Growth

I hope your brains work well enought to digest what i just wrote...

ZEROCORE the story telller.

You lost 9k roids alone this is about 8-9 mio score. All those battles together show more then a netloss of 3 mil score. Even with your supergrowthrate because you have so many more roids then all alliances attacking you (quiet not true from the stats i have seen and you claiming ldk is only 80-100 planets) you cant catch up on 300+ mio lost score by closures which should be included in your postings. Seeing you claimed only having 80+ members in another post i think today about 10% of your real planets got closed. Scorpio, Nacho, Wishmaster, Shadowsas, meddy, draki, sjor and a couple big ones i only got the names to.
Along with many of their friends and siblings.
That is a sad trend imo and if you go on like this, you will run out of members before any other alliance runs out of fleets

Btw why isnt loki covered ? ;/

[Razorback]

Originally posted by gadas
12mil was taken from ldk arbiter

ldk has 250k roids so you can calculate day growth by yourself
formula to calculate total loss: 12 mil + growth
hope you can manage to calc yourself now

PS: if not ask Storebo for help

saying about 90% of the roids are initiated and each roid generating 25 score per tick that would be per roid 24h*25 score per roid per day. (600)
Assuming that 90% of the roids are initiated leads to a number of 225.000 initated roids. Summing to a total of 135 mio scoregrowth from roids.. The number is abit missleading and is normally abit lower considering 25% of the roids are eroids which only produce half the score unless you build pds. As stocked ressources give only 5% This would lead us rougly to about 100-110 mio score you gain per day. Supstracting the Eoniumcosts for launches i would say your netgain is over the thumb 100 mio Score. The battles dont display you losing only 88 mil score in total and the 10 big planets beeing closed produce no score and will also get deleted so afterall i think you post purely PR.

[cypher]

focht, no offence... but stating draki got closed and saying he's ldk makes you look so utterly stupid:/ heck he's been one of our main worries.. as he organised prolly most of the attacks on us... and sjor aint ever been ldk either... you should know better:/

[Drvar]

focht, they said that arbiter shows 12mil loss, what the **** do you want from them?

[Razorback]

Originally posted by cyphie
focht, no offence... but stating draki got closed and saying he's ldk makes you look so utterly stupid:/ heck he's been one of our main worries.. as he organised prolly most of the attacks on us... and sjor aint ever been ldk either... you should know better:/

Both defended LDK and were closed as a part of an LDK Bg. If they actually are or not doesnt really matter for the fact that LDK lost about 10 biggish planets last night to closure and quiet more planets in the lower score area. The battle at sliekas and his galm8s place was impossible to calc as half of the defenders were closed each time hehe. So infact i do see a trend there, if one or 2 planets were only accountsharing friends which dont belong to LDK then thats tough****, fact is they defended LDK
@ Drvar im quiet simply stating that their arbiter is afaik wrong or they are making up a pr story if thats more direct for you

[gadas]

Quote:
"Supstracting the Eoniumcosts for launches i would say your netgain is over the thumb 100 mio Score. The battles dont display you losing only 88 mil score in total and the 10 big planets beeing closed produce no score and will also get deleted so afterall i think you post purely PR."


Ask Storebo to calc fs 100 + 12 != 88mil it is 112mil
+you should consider salvage gained by defenders and not all
defending planets were LDK but form paralel/cluster etc.
And score loss in arbiter doesn't take into account closed planets as they aren't deleted yet.
Don't make a fool of yourself

[RexDrax]

Hmm... LDK claiming to have only lost 12 mill is sort of wrong. On a Derbios planet in cluster 15 he was about 57 mill when we launched on him with 57mill in metal stored up. When we landed he had spent all of that and was about 68mill. After the 3/4 combat ticks he was back to 55mill. THAT alone is a (roughly) a 13mill drop in score. On top of that he didnt get any roids so it is my opinion that LDK stating that they only lost 12mill all together is wrong since the above sceneario doesnt take any of the defenders into account.

And yes I know, not all defenders where LDK and most likely the majority werent. But there where some that where and they did lose some ships.

[BDB]

Originally posted by Razorback
Both defended LDK and were closed as a part of an LDK Bg. If they actually are or not doesnt really matter for the fact that LDK lost about 10 biggish planets last night to closure and quiet more planets in the lower score area. The battle at sliekas and his galm8s place was impossible to calc as half of the defenders were closed each time hehe. So infact i do see a trend there, if one or 2 planets were only accountsharing friends which dont belong to LDK then thats tough****, fact is they defended LDK
@ Drvar im quiet simply stating that their arbiter is afaik wrong or they are making up a pr story if thats more direct for you

thats ****ing horse **** LDK dont have BG's at all thats like saying DTA is an LDK bg cause some of them def me

[gadas]

Originally posted by RexDrax
Hmm... LDK claiming to have only lost 12 mill is sort of wrong. On a Derbios planet in cluster 15 he was about 57 mill when we launched on him with 57mill in metal stored up. When we landed he had spent all of that and was about 68mill. After the 3/4 combat ticks he was back to 55mill. THAT alone is a (roughly) a 13mill drop in score. On top of that he didnt get any roids so it is my opinion that LDK stating that they only lost 12mill all together is wrong since the above sceneario doesnt take any of the defenders into account.

And yes I know, not all defenders where LDK and most likely the majority werent. But there where some that where and they did lose some ships.

omg
i mean can you get more stupid
I tried my best to give numbers and explian it to make it easy to understand and still you cant get it...

Ok i'll do it in a way wich is understandable to you
LDK score loss shows only 12mil because we .. CHEAT
bots bots wallhack etc

[Preach]

Originally posted by Forest
You was last tyime we spoke online. U havent been account swapping ahve u?


mmm

/me wonders

Hehe, Forest maybe you should get your facts Straight, mmm is not LDK, he is Section So therefore he is not an LDK officer ok? Hope that clears that up for you.

[zerocore]

Originally posted by Razorback
saying about 90% of the roids are initiated and each roid generating 25 score per tick that would be per roid 24h*25 score per roid per day. (600)
Assuming that 90% of the roids are initiated leads to a number of 225.000 initated roids. Summing to a total of 135 mio scoregrowth from roids.. The number is abit missleading and is normally abit lower considering 25% of the roids are eroids which only produce half the score unless you build pds. As stocked ressources give only 5% This would lead us rougly to about 100-110 mio score you gain per day. Supstracting the Eoniumcosts for launches i would say your netgain is over the thumb 100 mio Score. The battles dont display you losing only 88 mil score in total and the 10 big planets beeing closed produce no score and will also get deleted so afterall i think you post purely PR.

I'll say it once: if u don't know how to calc - don't do it!

1. Did u included those 10-15% of resources for minister/GC position?
2. Did u added salvage?
3. You sure that all defenders were LDK members?
4. Closed planets doesn't counts (and not all planets u said are LDK)

P.S. to annoy u a bit more our growth at the time i'm posting is... +17M score

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by gadas
omg
i mean can you get more stupid
I tried my best to give numbers and explian it to make it easy to understand and still you cant get it...

Ok i'll do it in a way wich is understandable to you
LDK score loss shows only 12mil because we .. CHEAT
bots bots wallhack etc

Excuse me but I think you misunderstood my post. I am stating that LDK claiming to ONLY have lost about 12mill is inaccurate since Derbios planet alone lost about 13mill. That is not counting what LDK members that defended lost and on the other planets. I am not presuming to know how much LDK lost, but I know that it was more than 12mill.

Now exactly what is your problem?

[zamoda]

Originally posted by Forest
You was last tyime we spoke online. U havent been account swapping ahve u?


mmm

/me wonders

When did i say to you that i was ldk officer?

[gadas]

Originally posted by RexDrax
Excuse me but I think you misunderstood my post. I am stating that LDK claiming to ONLY have lost about 12mill is inaccurate since Derbios planet alone lost about 13mill. That is not counting what LDK members that defended lost and on the other planets. I am not presuming to know how much LDK lost, but I know that it was more than 12mill.

Now exactly what is your problem?

UNFECKINGBELIEVABLE!!!

[laputa]

Originally posted by gadas
12mil was taken from ldk arbiter

ldk has 250k roids so you can calculate day growth by yourself
formula to calculate total loss: 12 mil + growth
hope you can manage to calc yourself now

PS: if not ask Storebo for help

the PS made laugh out loud

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by gadas
UNFECKINGBELIEVABLE!!!

hehe why doesnt this response suprise me. Seems when reasonable people are trying to have a discussion and 1 party is not willing to answer or comment they revert to .....

PS: my original post was not directed at your post which must have been posted just when i posted mine. But I suppose since it was right after yours you took it as an attack on your post. hehe

[zamoda]

gadas,
I love you

[zamoda]

Originally posted by RexDrax
hehe why doesnt this response suprise me. Seems when reasonable people are trying to have a discussion and 1 party is not willing to answer or comment they revert to .....

PS: my original post was not directed at your post which must have been posted just when i posted mine. But I suppose since it was right after yours you took it as an attack on your post. hehe

Look boy, where did Lrytas mentioned that LDK has lost like a total of 12m score???

that was a net change for alliances since YESTERDAY

[gadas]

Originally posted by zamoda
gadas,
I love you

I don't you fag

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by zamoda
Look boy, where did Lrytas mentioned that LDK has lost like a total of 12m score???

that was a net change for alliances since YESTERDAY

Yes I realize that, and I am stating that I have a hard time beliving that. Yes, granted I dont have the LDK memberslist and such and I am not privy to a lot of internal info. But it stands to reason that if Derbios planet lost 13mill alone, that the net change in LDK score has to be greater than 13mill since as far as I am aware LDK did not really attack last night and primarily was defending.

Thats where I am coming from.

Now I am not sure who posted the 12mill fact, too lazy to look it up but I never stated it was lyrtas that did. Also it is possible that I am wrong in that case you are welcome to correct my mistake, but show your reasoning to, coz its possible that you missed some info to.

I would like to continue this discussion but class calls, be back later to read your replies

[Razorback]

Originally posted by zerocore
I'll say it once: if u don't know how to calc - don't do it!

1. Did u included those 10-15% of resources for minister/GC position?
2. Did u added salvage?
3. You sure that all defenders were LDK members?
4. Closed planets doesn't counts (and not all planets u said are LDK)

P.S. to annoy u a bit more our growth at the time i'm posting is... +17M score

as not all LDK are ministers or GC the bonus will have only a limited change in 250k roids in total the change would be in my guess about 2-3 % meaning every 4th ldk is a Minister (P.S you dont play pa long do you ? a gc only gets 10% while ministers only get 5% so i dont know why you get somewhere 15%)
That would be for 100 mil score gainning per day about 2-3 mil difference, i dont see how this influences the overall calc.

Why would i need to add salvage, if you were saying the majority of the defenders were not ldk ldk wouldnt get the salvage either so your point 2+3 are contradicting each other. Also many of them were escort planets so im sure they are not in your "arbiter of real members" eventho for the universe the dedicated 3 mio planets with FI only fleets count as LDK even if you denie their existance and say its only dedicated friends who all use the inetcafe and defend and escort in the middle of the night.

closed planets dont count ? thats more ridiculous, seeing 8 of the planets closed are ldk and they have atleast 20-30k roids together which are in your growthcalculation mystically included even if they dont grow as they are closed. 20-30k roids = 10% you made above a fuss about 2-3% of total difference while you now balantly ignore 10% in your calc. It seems you should start to learn to calc. especially if closed planets are deleted = scoreloss then i would say those 8+ planets represent a good portion of score where you dont get salvage for when lost

[gadas]

Originally posted by Razorback
as not all LDK are ministers or GC the bonus will have only a limited change in 250k roids in total the change would be in my guess about 2-3 % meaning every 4th ldk is a Minister (P.S you dont play pa long do you ? a gc only gets 10% while ministers only get 5% so i dont know why you get somewhere 15%)
That would be for 100 mil score gainning per day about 2-3 mil difference, i dont see how this influences the overall calc.

Why would i need to add salvage, if you were saying the majority of the defenders were not ldk ldk wouldnt get the salvage either so your point 2+3 are contradicting each other. Also many of them were escort planets so im sure they are not in your "arbiter of real members" eventho for the universe the dedicated 3 mio planets with FI only fleets count as LDK even if you denie their existance and say its only dedicated friends who all use the inetcafe and defend and escort in the middle of the night.

closed planets dont count ? thats more ridiculous, seeing 8 of the planets closed are ldk and they have atleast 20-30k roids together which are in your growthcalculation mystically included even if they dont grow as they are closed. 20-30k roids = 10% you made above a fuss about 2-3% of total difference while you now balantly ignore 10% in your calc. It seems you should start to learn to calc. especially if closed planets are deleted = scoreloss then i would say those 8+ planets represent a good portion of score where you dont get salvage for when lost

i don't see a point in arguiing with you
and i think you are right here we need to learn to calc can you lend Storebo to teach us calcing if not Sonnerbomber (or waht is his nick) will be ok too.
Thanks in advance

[gadas]

tw i count only 3 planets from LDK closed yesterday from list wich was provided in this thread. As shadowsas was closed a long time ago.

[Razorback]

Originally posted by gadas
i don't see a point in arguiing with you
and i think you are right here we need to learn to calc can you lend Storebo to teach us calcing if not Sonnerbomber (or waht is his nick) will be ok too.
Thanks in advance

Im sorry neither of them belongs to my alliance so infact you must make your first contact with them yourself, a good tip would be to go into #ToT for that.

[zerocore]

Originally posted by Razorback
as not all LDK are ministers or GC the bonus will have only a limited change in 250k roids in total the change would be in my guess about 2-3 % meaning every 4th ldk is a Minister (P.S you dont play pa long do you ? a gc only gets 10% while ministers only get 5% so i dont know why you get somewhere 15%)
That would be for 100 mil score gainning per day about 2-3 mil difference, i dont see how this influences the overall calc.

Why would i need to add salvage, if you were saying the majority of the defenders were not ldk ldk wouldnt get the salvage either so your point 2+3 are contradicting each other. Also many of them were escort planets so im sure they are not in your "arbiter of real members" eventho for the universe the dedicated 3 mio planets with FI only fleets count as LDK even if you denie their existance and say its only dedicated friends who all use the inetcafe and defend and escort in the middle of the night.

closed planets dont count ? thats more ridiculous, seeing 8 of the planets closed are ldk and they have atleast 20-30k roids together which are in your growthcalculation mystically included even if they dont grow as they are closed. 20-30k roids = 10% you made above a fuss about 2-3% of total difference while you now balantly ignore 10% in your calc. It seems you should start to learn to calc. especially if closed planets are deleted = scoreloss then i would say those 8+ planets represent a good portion of score where you dont get salvage for when lost

Oh, seems i mistyped ministers/GC bonus income, my fault.
But does your arbiter scans planets? I mean how can arbiter show score loss coz of planet's closure?
And who said that majority of defenders aren't LDK?
Anyway, even if there was only one LDK member, he would get his salvage as all other defenders, so calc it in too please

[Forest]

Originally posted by Preach
Hehe, Forest maybe you should get your facts Straight, mmm is not LDK, he is Section So therefore he is not an LDK officer ok? Hope that clears that up for you.

Lets see.


LDK are lying cheating scum.
Section were lying cheating scum.


I SEE WHY I GET CONFUSED!


fs

[Maddix]

Originally posted by genosse27
free roids at loki
http://www.pilkara.com/parsers.php?groupid=1381997245

Now there is someone who deserves to lose a few roids

As for only 12 million LDK loses over the night, even with their growth that can't possibly be right, defence lost about 120mil score in C15 alone, even with salvage and non-LDK planets defending thats a lot more than 12 mil. Having said that tho, whats the 'official' LDK member count again?

[cypher]

Originally posted by Forest
Lets see.


LDK are lying cheating scum.
Section were lying cheating scum.


I SEE WHY I GET CONFUSED!


fs

don't be a hypocrite... it doesn't suit ya... you're boring me now forest:/

[zerocore]

Originally posted by Maddix
Now there is someone who deserves to lose a few roids

As for only 12 million LDK loses over the night, even with their growth that can't possibly be right, defence lost about 120mil score in C15 alone, even with salvage and non-LDK planets defending thats a lot more than 12 mil. Having said that tho, whats the 'official' LDK member count again?

I think you have forgot something.
Our saved resources for example (look at the top LDK planets in pilkara).
I don't even know why i'm trying to explain u all this.
Seems it's just useless as you just want to believe in that, in what u want to believe...
Well maybe it's right way to go, maybe it will help you to keep morale of your members hight enought to make another strike. GO LEMMINGS GO! etc.

[nORB]

[Leshy]

Originally posted by nORB

This post may well make more sense than the entire previous thread!