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Unread 6 Oct 2006, 22:16   #1
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I have decided its time to banish these vile pus volcanos from my face in my new spirit of self improvement, all though i dont have anywere near as many as i did when i was a teenager i want them gone all together, what prey tell GDers is the best method?
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Stop eating fast food.

Wash your face.

Pretty simple to be honest.
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try not to get engaged to slappers
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Unread 6 Oct 2006, 22:23   #5
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Re: Spots

Avoid greasy food (you'll wipe the oil on your face)!

And invest in a reasonably priced/branded facewash - even if it looks like its for girls!
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Re: Spots

spots are mostly hormonal, tho some can be food based, you could eat healthy and still look like a pizza.

for really bad acne you can see your doctor who will prescibe something.

but the others are right, a facial scrub in some form, an astringent to deal with the oils, and dont worry if its a bit girly.
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Long time ago I knew a guy at school who had terrible acne. He took pure alcohol and it helped, his face became as if he was the Undertaker tho..
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If its acne then go to a doctor and get some prescription stuff for it that actually works.
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Re: Spots

I've got pretty bad acne too, my GP has been giving me regular crap for some time (stuff for topical acne), he then gave me antibiotics and told me to take them for a month, nothing happened - I came back a month after finishing them and said taht nothing happened and he was like "oh you were supposed to come back to me when you finished them" - he didn't tell me anything about coming back -_-
I asked him to be referred to a specialist and I've recentely started to take "Roaccutane" which is not an antibiotic, its supposedly the most effective treatment but may have some side effects (small chance of getting depression (which will go if you stop taking it) and something with the liver). Its also the fastest effective treatment (only 4 months)

I've used all of the clearasil products etc in the shops before, thinking that these were just normal spots but it really didn't help much - of course it did help a little and reduce the amount of spots a little, but didn't stop the problem. (I still use the special soaps while taking the medication)
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I have decided its time to banish these vile pus volcanos from my face in my new spirit of self improvement, all though i dont have anywere near as many as i did when i was a teenager i want them gone all together, what prey tell GDers is the best method?
been there, done that, got the facewash
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Unread 7 Oct 2006, 09:43   #11
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Re: Spots

I went the quack, got put on antibiotics (Oxytetracycline). They did absolutely nothing for three months then all of a sudden started working, was on them for probably 2 years. I've heard conflicting reports about the non-antibiotic method, one friend was fine and they worked, the other was suffering nosebleeds and his skin, whilst clear of spots, looked like it was see-through.

I was told (by a very attractive locum, I might add) that if you're finding you get spots around your temples then it's a pretty good indicator of them being hormonal as opposed to being caused by some other factor, in which case your only recourse is medical treatment.
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I asked him to be referred to a specialist and I've recentely started to take "Roaccutane" which is not an antibiotic, its supposedly the most effective treatment but may have some side effects (small chance of getting depression (which will go if you stop taking it) and something with the liver). Its also the fastest effective treatment (only 4 months)
I was told its 99% effective or some bollocks like that, it did nothing for me (this was 8 years or so ago). Last I'd heard they were only giving the drug out in very specific cases because a couple of suicides had been linked to it. Spots will clear up naturally in time .
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Only young* people get spots. I have none






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I asked him to be referred to a specialist and I've recentely started to take "Roaccutane" which is not an antibiotic, its supposedly the most effective treatment but may have some side effects (small chance of getting depression (which will go if you stop taking it) and something with the liver). Its also the fastest effective treatment (only 4 months)
Roche spends an awful lot of money on marketing this drug to specialists.

"It's great! you wont notice a thing! All those news reports and horror stories are just hysteria, you'll be cured in no time, its the only effective treatment! If you don't take it you could end up with horrible facial scarring! It only takes four months!"

Bollocks.

Eat better, change your diet, cut back on the soft drinks, wash your face regularly (twice a day). These things will have a far greater effect on your acne than Roaccutane.
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Eat better, change your diet, cut back on the soft drinks, wash your face regularly (twice a day). These things will have a far greater effect on your acne than Roaccutane.
Roaccutane should be seen as a last resort when everything else has failed because it has side effects and allegedly has been linked to depression.

If washing doesn't stop it (diet doesn't necessarily help), go to a dermatologist and any one worth his salt will give you antibiotics for a while, which will stop any infection and washing and the like should keep it under control. This works for me.

If that fails, then you use roaccutane.

I don't see how it could stop facial scarring - if you get bad acne, you are going to get facial scarring.
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I'm pretty sure I've read that neither washing your face all the time nor changing your diet have any outside-the-bounds-of-statistical-error effect on the kind of hormonal acne young people tend to get, I'll have to dig it out. In fact there was something that said that more frequent washing of your face will just leave the skin dried-out and more prone to other kinds of damage so it wasn't an awesomely hot idea.
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Eat better, change your diet, cut back on the soft drinks, wash your face regularly (twice a day). These things will have a far greater effect on your acne than Roaccutane.
I've had Acne for 5 years, I've tried all of this, I've tried almost every spot product that I've come across and none have helped much. I don't drink many soft drinks, my diet isn't particularly unhealthy either.
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I was told its 99% effective or some bollocks like that, it did nothing for me (this was 8 years or so ago). Last I'd heard they were only giving the drug out in very specific cases because a couple of suicides had been linked to it. Spots will clear up naturally in time .
Yeah, it is supposed to work 99% of the time, you're just unlucky if it doesn't work for you (you've got to take it for the whole 4 months though)
I asked the doctor about the suicides and she said that it does have a chance to cause depression (which she had said before) but the chance is very low - she says that she has given this treatment to many patients and only one of them felt a little low, she stopped taking it and felt fine again. She also said that some people are arguing that the suicides are caused by the acne and not the drug (I have no idea wtf this is about tbh)
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Half of the posts there are telling him to go outside, one post even wants him to use a sunbed, I've been told to protect my skin from direct sunlight and/or sunbeds.
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I don't see how it could stop facial scarring - if you get bad acne, you are going to get facial scarring.
Roaccutane supposedly changes the structure of your skin or something (I forgot what exactly the doctor said) to remove the scarring
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Roaccutane capsules contain the active ingredient isotretinoin. (NB. Isotretinoin capsules are also available without a brand name, ie as the generic medicine.) Isotretinoin belongs to a group of medicines known as retinoids, which are derivatives of vitamin A. Isotretinoin taken by mouth works by reducing the production of the skin’s natural oil (sebum).
Acne occurs due to an excessive production of sebum from over-active sebaceous glands in the skin. The sebum blocks the sebaceous glands, which prevents the oil from flowing freely out and causes an accumulation of sebum under the skin. The bacteria associated with acne thrive in these conditions. They feed on the sebum, and produce waste products and fatty acids that irritate the sebaceous glands, making them inflamed and causing spots.

Isotretinoin decreases the size and activity of the sebaceous glands in the skin, which reduces the amount of sebum that is produced. This stops the glands becoming blocked, and means bacteria are less likely to thrive. It also reduces the inflammation in the skin.

Isotretinoin can have serious side effects and its use must be supervised by a dermatologist. It is reserved for the treatment of severe acne (such as nodular or conglobate acne or acne at risk of permanent scarring) that has not improved with standard treatment involving oral antibiotics and topical medicines.

Your acne may worsen at the start of treatment, but this usually subsides within 7 to 10 days of continued treatment. In most cases, complete or near-complete clearing of acne is achieved with a 12 to 16 week course of treatment, and you are likely to remain free of acne for a long time. Repeat courses are not normally recommended, unless a definite relapse is seen after treatment is stopped. Repeat courses should not be started until at least eight weeks after stopping treatment, as your acne may still improve in this time.
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could we all please TRY to get evidence for our assertions? This is GD not 'bickering 12 year olds flame each other on the internet'
which assertions? the depression? it has been acknowledged by dermatologists, not sure if it has been "proven" to cause depression or just linked to it.
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Yeah, it is supposed to work 99% of the time, you're just unlucky if it doesn't work for you (you've got to take it for the whole 4 months though)
I took it for 6 months i think. When i went back to the dermatologist for the final time she said that the drug hadnt turned out to be as successful as expected (it was pretty new when i started) so i wasnt the only unlucky one.
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Re: Spots

I find that a good way to not get spots is to be me.
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I find that a good way to have hair is to not be you.
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Re: Spots

My friend used to make a solution out of toothpaste, aftershave and talc.

He was still spotty but he smelled alright.
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Toothpaste is supposed to dry the spots out due to it being Alkali (I think) and aftershave just disinfects, not sure what Talc does.
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Re: Spots

I was on roaccutane. It was amazing - took about 6 months but I had perfectly clear skin. I never felt remotely depressed, although I guess that's down to what kind of person I am really! Did get really dry lips though, and sometimes dry skin on my hands which led to eczema. Worth it though.
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I was on roaccutane. It was amazing - took about 6 months but I had perfectly clear skin. I never felt remotely depressed, although I guess that's down to what kind of person I am really! Did get really dry lips though, and sometimes dry skin on my hands which led to eczema. Worth it though.
Nice to see someone with some positive feedback about it
My hands are a little dry and so are my lips atm (been taking it for 5 days) but I plan to keep them both well moisturised, felt a little bit down last night, but then realised that its because I stayed in on saturday night (I get pretty down if I stay in on Saturday night). I really hope it works well
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