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Unread 20 Jul 2004, 12:02   #1
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File Sharing (again)

Our internet account has been disabled (again). Not Kazaa this time, but :
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Title: Hellboy
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 15 Jul 2004 08:15:58 GMT
Recent Infringment Timestamp: 15 Jul 2004 11:52:18 GMT
Infringer Username:
Infringing Filename: Hellboy.DVDRiP.XViD-DvP_[bt-gm]_[EFnet]
Infringing Filesize: 1457676596
Infringers IP Address: xx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx
Infringers DNS Name:
Infringing URL: xx.xx.xx.xxx.xxx:6881/Hellboy.DVDRiP.XViD-DvP_[bt-gm]_[EFnet]
Notice ID: 414681
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Despite the above, "Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc." believes that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.
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Unread 20 Jul 2004, 12:03   #2
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Re: File Sharing (again)

So, we won't see you at all then.
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Unread 20 Jul 2004, 12:04   #3
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Re: File Sharing (again)

Apparently we have to send a letter promising we've formatted all our hard drives or something.
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Unread 20 Jul 2004, 12:08   #4
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Re: File Sharing (again)

What does this tell you?

Don't use public trackers, or get a different provider.
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Unread 20 Jul 2004, 12:11   #5
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Re: File Sharing (again)

We're going to move soon so we will.
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Unread 20 Jul 2004, 12:22   #6
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Re: File Sharing (again)

We have buged out and nukes our hard drives from orbit. Are you going to sue us infringing on the Alien copyright now?


Bastards, so how did they find out. I was under the impression BitTorrent was somewhat harder to monitor than Kazaa.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

Peerguardian mofo


and also IRC is much better for aquiring films you already own on dvd.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

i don't get it. shouldnt you get heavily punished for those actions?!
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Re: File Sharing (again)

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i don't get it. shouldnt you get heavily punished for those actions?!
Didn't you read? Colombia wants to avoid that for the greater good.

Besides, it'd be enormously costly to prosecute individual cases.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

i bet they figured if they made movies like hellboy they wouldn't have to worry about downloadings anymore.

way to show them!
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Re: File Sharing (again)

I didn't download it, it was a housemate honest.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

It's nice to see powerful global corporations are following the basic tenets of utilitarianism :)))
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Re: File Sharing (again)

Hey! Is hellboy available already?
Under what filename?
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Re: File Sharing (again)

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Hey! Is hellboy available already?
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Infringing Filename: Hellboy.DVDRiP.XViD-DvP_[bt-gm]_[EFnet]
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Unread 21 Jul 2004, 00:22   #16
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Re: File Sharing (again)

No sympathy.
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Hmm, how the fk are they tracking what you're downloading?
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Re: File Sharing (again)

Cocker Spaniel Protocol dogs.

They'll sniff out any norty packets.

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And also, please tell me you're using any provider other than Nildram, or I'll be royally ****ed in the ass when I migrate over to them, heh.
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Keep it up kiddo!
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And also, please tell me you're using any provider other than Nildram, or I'll be royally ****ed in the ass when I migrate over to them, heh.
They're not. I'm using nildram, however, and have been fine.
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No, we use ClaraNet.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

Also, for the love of god change your default bittorrent ports out of the 6xxx range.
ISPs are not stupid, they know the defaults. Choose a random range up in the high end like 47454-47554 or something
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Use ProtoWall instead, nicer.

BUT, it won't help: The ISP can do paket sniffing and filtering as they want -- even if you block connections to CIA, FBI, etc, they can still for BitTorrent-typical headers.

Dunno what about VPN, IPsec stuff etc., but you would need another "un-watched" server somewhere.
FFS the next Kazaa- and BitTorrent-like P2P stuff program should implement encryption and obfuscation as default (like this winamp-maker's thingy).

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and also IRC is much better for aquiring films you already own on dvd.
If you know the right channels (and / or people). Can you tell me pls?
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Re: File Sharing (again)

I think (I´m not sure) it has all to do with the country you live in...
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Re: File Sharing (again)

funny that it's happened to dante ('s household) twice and never to anyone else

It makes me wonder if all isps are getting these messages and ignoring them while Dante's is being more strict. These fixed ip addresses you pay extra for could have something to do with it too?
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Re: File Sharing (again)

It happens a fair bit as theres a number of companies employed by the movie studios and record companies whos job is to find out who downloading and sharing copyrighted files. Getting caught is a combination of a) Being a bit naive and not ensuring your ipfilters are upto date and thus blocking the tracking service and b) being extramly unlucky.

Obviously a you can take some action against and keep those filters upto date which decreases the chance but you cant account for luck and no matter how many ip's are filtered if you try and download a file thats being monitored (or serve a file being monitored) and your protection isnt perfect (and no-ones is, theres always scanners out there that havent been identified yet and arent blocked) you have a chance of getting caught, tracked and automatically reported
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Re: File Sharing (again)

My mate works for an ISP and he says they get these things all the time but he says they dont have the time or spare members to deal with them so just let them go, plus half of them are due to those in the office anyway! You should use them Dante!
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Sure, but you haven't said what it is.
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Newsgroups are your friend.......

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Newsgroups are generally full of shit and it takes a ****ing age to find what you're looking for on them. Unless you have secret newsgroup browsing skills, then please share.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

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funny that it's happened to dante ('s household) twice and never to anyone else
I think it may be something to do with us being a business account, rather than a personal account.

To get reconnected, we have to send a company header letter promising that action has been taking about the 'employee' who abused the access.
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Newsgroups are generally full of shit and it takes a ****ing age to find what you're looking for on them. Unless you have secret newsgroup browsing skills, then please share.
I bought a program called Newsshark that helps . It handles yenc encoding and instead of having to download files part by part, it shows the full file.

However, on the whole news groups are full of shit and that's usually just the posters.

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Well, alls well that ends well. A meaningless letter promising meaningless investigation was sent through so it's all OK.
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Re: File Sharing (again)

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Use ProtoWall instead, nicer.

BUT, it won't help: The ISP can do paket sniffing and filtering as they want -- even if you block connections to CIA, FBI, etc, they can still for BitTorrent-typical headers.

Dunno what about VPN, IPsec stuff etc., but you would need another "un-watched" server somewhere.
FFS the next Kazaa- and BitTorrent-like P2P stuff program should implement encryption and obfuscation as default (like this winamp-maker's thingy).


If you know the right channels (and / or people). Can you tell me pls?
Also I think, the more popular it gets, the more they could have a look on that DCC traffic as well

google for packetnews

or just type it in with a .com at the end
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Re: File Sharing (again)

oh and xdcc catcher is a must
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Re: File Sharing (again)

There is only one way we can solve this problem...
1. Take over a small, insignificant third world country, say, france.
2. Set up a decent internet system
3. Make a law declaring filesharing legal.

Id call it "Outer Heaven" - sounds catchy.
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