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Unread 19 Feb 2007, 14:34   #1
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just for those who was thinking of going i would suggest not (yes i know channel is unofficial),

i have been around planetarion scene since round 2 (not used forums much) and never encountered 2 idiots (be backed by others in channel) acting as immature muppets as furball and idimmu.

i would paste you the kick message but the language is not permitted. homphobic and profane langauge.
so if anyone is gay i would avoid these persons as they are homaphobic (i think PA team should do something about this as it is just as bad as racism. (i have logs)

Why did all this happen ???

i pasted a message asking for a coder for php and mysql and said i would pay someone to help me. and aww bless it was in red. i am sure they need opticians if it bothered there precious eyes that much.

But i ask again that the PA team takes action against the homaphobic behaviour commited.

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Re: forums IRC channel

You joined #forums, a channel that's known to be a little bit 'edgy' since it's the principal hang-out of GD regulars, and posted a line of advertising.

[12:56] <ICEPOC> PHP/ MySQL Coder Required. Cash Payment. /q me

Upon request from a number of the channel's regular users, I banned you. It was perfectly reasonable to do so - you struck me as an advertising bot, in fact. You then pmed me, and I explained that you'd been banned for advertising. I explained what advertising constituted as well, since you found this tricky to understand. I then suggested that you tried #linux, since a number of coders use that channel. I see that you were banned from there as well.

I unbanned you from #forums, since the standard 24 hour ban seemed a bit harsh. You rejoined, and under the new #forums policy you were banned by the present overload, idimmu (peace be upon him). IRC's a harsh harsh place, but that's just the way it goes.
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Unread 19 Feb 2007, 18:27   #3
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Re: forums IRC channel

I've pruned this thread quite heavily.

Some of it was really more suitable for GD. In general, the argument has got out of hand from the original incident.
Idi's ops will be looked into (furball linked to the relevent thread above). I believe the feds have spoken to him about the aforementioned incident too, as the relevant authority where it happened.

To the "GD regs", most people take things more seriously on these forums than on the GD forums, where most things are taken far more in jest than here. The same does apply for #forums. Please try not to cause potential problems and wind up people on here, it's not acceptable.

I don't see why there should need to be much more in the way of discussion on the topic, but I will leave this thread open on it. The relevent groups of people - both the PATeam and the mods - will discuss any issues raised, and any necessary action taken.
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Unread 19 Feb 2007, 19:14   #4
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Re: forums IRC channel

I wrote "take it up with #cservice", but aparently that post was also "pruned"
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Unread 19 Feb 2007, 19:29   #5
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Re: forums IRC channel

indeed, I apoligise. I just went through the thread a few times then removed all posts after the first two.
(though your wording did leave something to be desired)
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Unread 19 Feb 2007, 19:32   #6
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Re: forums IRC channel

#feds deal with the server stuff, not #cservice
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Unread 19 Feb 2007, 22:52   #7
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Re: forums IRC channel

You are right, my fault.
I can only say in my defense I normally complained to Gatewayy and never really needed one or the other accept for reporting spam and/or virus bots
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Re: forums IRC channel

Lets face it #forums is basically a hang out for mainly GD'ers and it isnt an official channel.

I idle in there and i certainly dont think they are homophobic (correct spelling included), they just have a certain type of sense of humour. Being gay myself i feel myself to be able to judge their lack of homophobia.

My personal advice, if you dont have a sense of humour dont join the channel. As well as this dont you thinl #php might have been a better place to ask?
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Unread 20 Feb 2007, 17:12   #9
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who's the mod leaving the boring posts and deleting the good ones anyway?
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Unread 20 Feb 2007, 17:14   #10
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I am. I thought that was clear from the context.
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Unread 20 Feb 2007, 17:18   #11
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Re: forums IRC channel

But why does this thread deserve special pruning?

Take your problems straight to biffy tbh ICEPOC! Thats what I did when #forums last got my knickers in a twist, ended up with a GD mod being removed ... allbeit for a short period of time
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Re: forums IRC channel

For reference the #forums channel has now been delaminated from everything that is officially Planetarion related. There are now no mentions of it as a place to go if you have forums issues or need a mod etc. If we happen to have missed somwhere please let me know so we can deal with it.
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Re: forums IRC channel

So... what is the official forums channel then?

edit: Btw, the only thing shitter than using big fancy words and then spelling them incorrectly is using big fancy words when they don't make any sense in what you're saying. Unless delaminated has some new meaning courtesy of urbandictionary.com or somewhere.

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Re: forums IRC channel

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So... what is the official forums channel then?
As a temp solution I suggest any serious and genuine problems with the forums people have they head to #support, someone in there will be able to awaken someone who can assist you.
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Re: forums IRC channel

There's really no need for an official forums channel anyhow; if you need to contact a moderator, you can send them a PM. If you need to report a post, there's a simple button for doing that. Bothering people in #support is the option of last resort.
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There's really no need for an official forums channel anyhow; if you need to contact a moderator, you can send them a PM. If you need to report a post, there's a simple button for doing that. Bothering people in #support is the option of last resort.
Account problems?

Access problems?

Discussing the reason for a ban maybe?
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Re: forums IRC channel

All things which can be taken up with the relevant admin or mod. Strange as it may seem for those with 24/7 IRC connections (and I count myself as one of them), the IRC network is archaic, outdated and quite irrelevant to the general internet population. If we didn't already have an IRC network, we would never imagine the possibility of using one.

The idea that we should depend on IRC for support for the forums is not obvious in any way.
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All things which can be taken up with the relevant admin or mod.
How do you PM them if you are banned / can't access / login to the forums in the first place?

I'd be willing to bet the mod's don't read / have access to read the "Contact Us" link at the bottom & JJ seems to be even more absent than usual.
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hey that's not fair, JJ turned up yesterday after like a year away!
Anyway; you can PM them on IRC if anything is needed. Where they hang out is their choice and they tend to all be in #forums so you can join #forums, query a mod and part if you don't wish to stay in the channel...
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I'm around, contactable by e-mail, forum pm, and generally on IRC (though of late there's been a bit of delay as I'm taking a bit of a break from things). I'm in a fair few channels.
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Prefer irish people over the welsh.
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I'm pretty sure I made a post in this thread. Who deleted it?
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Re: forums IRC channel

Prolly one of the high and mighty.
Cant blame them if it was "out there" when it came to context.

Personally I think the #forums chan should either be governed by planetarion owners or it should be completely separated from the forums, ie no one who has official ties to planetarion should be allowed to have any form of "influence" there.

Now it is more or less a weird mix of things.
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I've pruned this thread quite heavily.

Some of it was really more suitable for GD. In general, the argument has got out of hand from the original incident.
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