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31 May 2003, 15:40
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Atlanta Georgia (USA)
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9.5 Game Unbalanced at start
Well since there will be no re-shuffle (which I am actually kind of glad of since my gal m8's already know who I am, and personal alliance info) the galaxys will remain the same..
However this does also create a game balance problem..
There are many galaxys with extremes in number of players per galaxy - for instance - My galaxy has less than 20 players yet a galaxy right next door has 25 players and still another Galaxy in our cluster has as few as 15 members... And if thats not bad enough you add the factors of inactive planets (Planets that haven't even logged into their accounts from last round) this just adds to an incredible disparity of balance...
I can forsee only this divide worsening as the game continues as smaller starting galaxys (with fewer active players) will be bashed early, and even if their galaxy fills out to 25 later, then they will still be at a disadvantage as the new joiners will have to catch up...
Although I have no ideas as to how to settle the overall balance issue.. At least one thing could be done about the r9 players who haven't logged in to their accounts... Either they should be deleted or right before tick start PA crew should rename all of these obvious inactive worlds to some random name so they are not so distinguishable..
I mean with planet names that are coordinates like that will be farmed, and their galaxys immediatly recognized as short on real players and considered easy targets...
Remby
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31 May 2003, 15:51
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a new low in getting high
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Would it be possible to merge the mini galaxies together, without having to shuffle everyone?
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31 May 2003, 17:18
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago, USA
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Some are even lower than what the topic poster replies; many of the higher clusters have 5 or 7 people in a galaxy. The rate of newcommers is not very high either. They will doubtless be at a huge disadvantage come ticks.
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31 May 2003, 19:07
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Klaatu barada nikto
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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R9.5 is unbalanced you say? :eek:
1) PA is unbalanced anyway, so who cares?
2) It's a free round, so who cares?
3) They're busy with R10, so--well, you get the drift. 
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31 May 2003, 19:13
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finland
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If you end up in a very inactive/small galaxy just hit the delete button and signup another account. Wait the 72h if you want to be saint.
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31 May 2003, 19:27
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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There's a self exile button you know chaps.
(Not until ticks start though)
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1 Jun 2003, 00:30
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Klaatu barada nikto
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
There's a self exile button you know chaps.
(Not until ticks start though)
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Yes, but the bulk of "open" planets are usually in sparsely-populated galaxies, so the odds of improving your position via exile are not very good. Many players end up in an even less-populated galaxy.
Still, the illusion of control can be comforting.
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1 Jun 2003, 10:06
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: sydney australia
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i guess there hoping pa will find the momentum it had back in rd4 when the constant inflow of new players/accounts made the filling of gals a non-issue
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2 Jun 2003, 06:55
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ensign forever
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,080
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ditcher
If you end up in a very inactive/small galaxy just hit the delete button and signup another account. Wait the 72h if you want to be saint.
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That only enhances the problems !! Also a reason why creators need to remove planets in deletion mode before ticks already !!!
hAl
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2 Jun 2003, 09:40
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m33p
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: 4th floor
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why is a 25planet gal worse then a 15 planet gal?
being in a 25 planet galaxy also has its disadvantages.
more chances of spies and multies.
and i have heared about ppl who are in a 15 planet gal that have more active ppl then the 20+ gal that i am in.
this round its more about personal skill.
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2 Jun 2003, 09:48
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'Useless'
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wellington, NZ.
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well its been 5 days and I'm still waiting for my pass...
damn hotmail :/ should have just used my isp mail like they recomended..
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2 Jun 2003, 10:07
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m u p p e t
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Whenever Wherever
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Quote:
Originally posted by MegaNova
why is a 25planet gal worse then a 15 planet gal?
being in a 25 planet galaxy also has its disadvantages.
more chances of spies and multies.
and i have heared about ppl who are in a 15 planet gal that have more active ppl then the 20+ gal that i am in.
this round its more about personal skill.
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Galaxies with 15 planets etc. have an inherent disadvantage in that they are most likely to be attacked. People see 15 planets in a gal, if they're skilled they'll have nice roid ratios, and it'll only be 15 planets they have to cover instead of 25, and there's fewer planets so probably fewer alliances represented, thus less defence all round for that gal really.
Having 25 planets, even if they are multis means that there's a greater chance someone picking a target from your 25 person gal will choose a planet that's not you.
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2 Jun 2003, 10:47
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ensign forever
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Monkehpimp
well its been 5 days and I'm still waiting for my pass...
damn hotmail :/ should have just used my isp mail like they recomended..
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First you could try to login and use the 'lost password' feature. Mayby the original confirmation mail got lost because you hotmail was bouncing it (full) or saw it as spam ?! If you do not get a lost password mail in a few minutes the account probably isn't activated or you used an incorrect email addy.
Else just signup a second account with your isp email and send a email to [email protected] to remove the first signup you did with your hotmail account.
hAl
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2 Jun 2003, 12:16
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Playing Speedrounds
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: The Netherlands
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Re: 9.5 Game Unbalanced at start
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Originally posted by Remberasha
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Stupid people..
It's random, SO OFC NOT BALANCED!!! Ever seen something random with balance? You need luck with your gal/c/p in a random round.. WE ALL need... Random rounds should be free, cause paying and having bad luck sucks...
That's why I should say...
Do a paid private followed by a free random each ROUND...
And forget to BALANCE a random round!
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2 Jun 2003, 12:22
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TFD forever
Join Date: Feb 2001
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ever seen a balanced private round then? 
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2 Jun 2003, 12:44
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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The game is unbalanced by definition, because people can log in more than others, be in better alliances, etc.
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2 Jun 2003, 13:26
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m u p p e t
Join Date: May 2001
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Re: Re: 9.5 Game Unbalanced at start
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Originally posted by Lord_Thunderball
Stupid people..
It's random, SO OFC NOT BALANCED!!! Ever seen something random with balance? You need luck with your gal/c/p in a random round.. WE ALL need... Random rounds should be free, cause paying and having bad luck sucks...
That's why I should say...
Do a paid private followed by a free random each ROUND...
And forget to BALANCE a random round!
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Private rounds have the same cluster/parallel issues as random rounds, it only means you have a more active galaxy. But a galaxy of 10-25 Singularitys and Synthetic_Sid's wouldn't help you if you got stuck as the only allied gal in your cluster/parallel.
That factor doesn't change between private and random, so doesn't really make the situation better.
Plus the fact that private galaxies let the players dictate the alliance spread of the universe, and thus cause stagnation quicker means that private universes are less interesting politics wise than random ones. And as the politics etc. are what keeps most people playing (it's not just planet management that makes this game fun), why would more people pay for a private round than a random one? It just wouldn't happen.
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2 Jun 2003, 22:29
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Bored
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: A Persistant Universe
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Quote:
Originally posted by MegaNova
why is a 25planet gal worse then a 15 planet gal?
being in a 25 planet galaxy also has its disadvantages.
more chances of spies and multies.
and i have heared about ppl who are in a 15 planet gal that have more active ppl then the 20+ gal that i am in.
this round its more about personal skill.
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Can this silly argument stop. THe mroe people in your galaxy the more likely you are to have more people with personal skill.
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2 Jun 2003, 22:55
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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I beleive it's not balanced you just need to look at the universe rankings to tell you that.
Perhaps they should have picked 20 players per gal, prob to late for them to do anything now.
In regards to the earlier comment it's a free round, we'll I strongly disagree, I paid for round 9 (which stopped short although I agree with starting 9.5) and as far as I'm concerned 9.5 is part of round 9.
The other point was the PA team are busy with R10, well R9.5 is just if not more important being live at this present time to which many have paid. You should never sway from comments ppl make here they are the players and payers of this game.
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