Planetarion Forums - Well done and thanx to all who voted against Overburn

Cochese · 19 Jan 2003, 19:08

Our voices were heard, and the creators listened to reason.

Stay active, stay informed, and make your feelings heard on the issues...we can, and will, make a difference.

(special thanx to Leshy (for making my poll 'real' here) and for A2 (for putting my poll on the portal) much obliged guys!)

mens · 19 Jan 2003, 19:12

\o/

Ditcher · 19 Jan 2003, 19:20

They actually removed it?

Very nice. Thumbs up for creators and voters.

Ariados · 19 Jan 2003, 19:45

Yay!

-QS- · 19 Jan 2003, 19:52

me too

\o/ overburn is f*cked \o/

thx to creators as well, as they noticed our concern and reacted quickly!

InTGuRu · 19 Jan 2003, 19:52

heh you talk as if everyone wanted it gone

Zither · 19 Jan 2003, 19:58

now i cannot farm my multi planets secretly

Frizz · 19 Jan 2003, 19:59

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Originally posted by -QS-
me too

\o/ overburn is f*cked \o/

thx to creators as well, as they noticed our concern and reacted quickly!

OB attacks realyed killed gal such as my r8 gal, we only had 2-3 active ppl can it just cost 2 much to keep news scanning ppl all the time. thx u for taking it out.

Cochese · 19 Jan 2003, 19:59

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Originally posted by InTGuRu
heh you talk as if everyone wanted it gone

The majority of active players wanted it gone, and that's the majority of Planetarion's customers.

xtothez · 19 Jan 2003, 20:00

\o/

Frizz · 19 Jan 2003, 20:00

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Originally posted by Zither
now i cannot farm my multi planets secretly

rofl doh should of been thinking about that

InTGuRu · 19 Jan 2003, 20:06

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Originally posted by Cochese
The majority of active players wanted it gone, and that's the majority of Planetarion's customers.

If you based it on the poll, what where the stats at the end? I didn't get a chance to look at the final votes.

Cochese · 19 Jan 2003, 20:18

The forum poll is here and the portal poll is here

General Martok · 19 Jan 2003, 20:22

This is great news \o/ Finally they listened to the community

InTGuRu · 19 Jan 2003, 20:25

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The majority of active players wanted it gone, and that's the majority of Planetarion's customers.

forum poll has less than 300 votes, not too accurate of a poll.

portal poll has more people (though not all). 2095 votes.

50% says remove both attack and defense.
46.7% says keep at least one.

Basically, 3.3% or 69 people decided for the whole community. That is following your logic that our 'voices' were heard.

Cochese · 19 Jan 2003, 20:30

Fuzzy math rules again

Scaggydo · 19 Jan 2003, 20:35

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Originally posted by InTGuRu
forum poll has less than 300 votes, not too accurate of a poll.

portal poll has more people (though not all). 2095 votes.

50% says remove both attack and defense.
46.7% says keep at least one.

Basically, 3.3% or 69 people decided for the whole community. That is following your logic that our 'voices' were heard.

ack, the minority rights campaigner has infected another thread..

IN A VOTE, IF YOU VOTE, YOU GET HEARD. ffs.. deal with it.

Jellinek · 19 Jan 2003, 20:41

No InT.. 2095 ppl got heard, and the creators decided

Shakky · 19 Jan 2003, 20:50

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Originally posted by xtothez
\o/

xtothez · 19 Jan 2003, 20:52

Quote:

Originally posted by InTGuRu
forum poll has less than 300 votes, not too accurate of a poll.

portal poll has more people (though not all). 2095 votes.

50% says remove both attack and defense.
46.7% says keep at least one.

Basically, 3.3% or 69 people decided for the whole community. That is following your logic that our 'voices' were heard.

What a **** arguement.

I suppose if a new president or prime minister is elected with only 25% of the country voting then he shouldn't be there, as the appointment wasnt decided by 'the whole community'?
Or maybe the other 75% could't be bothered to fill out their voter registration forms, in the same way people here couldn't be bothered to fill out their forum registration pages just to vote on a poll they dont really give a **** about.

The people who cared, voted. End of story. If you feel strongly for or against an issue, then make sure you vote when needed. If not, live with it.

NIN · 19 Jan 2003, 21:31

Personally i´m glad that OB are gone..

Shev · 19 Jan 2003, 21:42

Quote:

Originally posted by InTGuRu
forum poll has less than 300 votes, not too accurate of a poll.

portal poll has more people (though not all). 2095 votes.

50% says remove both attack and defense.
46.7% says keep at least one.

Basically, 3.3% or 69 people decided for the whole community. That is following your logic that our 'voices' were heard.

Well ok, but you can twist this both ways.

25.5% say keep overburn.
71.2% want to get rid of overburn in some form.

DarkAngel · 19 Jan 2003, 21:44

thank f**k for that. (also thank cochese

)

Leshy · 19 Jan 2003, 22:12

Excellent.

Cochese · 19 Jan 2003, 22:19

Spam up someone else's thread please, and if you have a problem with a mod, send a PM.

Unless you've something productive to add here, please refrain from posting.

(Leshy, kindly edit some more please)

Scaggydo · 19 Jan 2003, 22:21

sorry cochese

got carried away. on topic however, i am particularly pleased that the crew took note of the poll. i wasnt too optimistic about the affect it would have on any decision but i beleive the majority now has what it wants. hurrah for democracy.

Tactitus · 19 Jan 2003, 23:38

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Originally posted by Frizz
OB attacks realyed killed gal such as my r8 gal, we only had 2-3 active ppl can it just cost 2 much to keep news scanning ppl all the time. thx u for taking it out.

I wonder how many other people who are against OB don't know that there are private galaxies next round? :/

Quote:

Originally posted by InTGuRu
forum poll has less than 300 votes, not too accurate of a poll.

portal poll has more people (though not all). 2095 votes.

50% says remove both attack and defense.
46.7% says keep at least one.

Basically, 3.3% or 69 people decided for the whole community. That is following your logic that our 'voices' were heard.

Don't equate number of people with number of votes; at least when it comes to forum polls. With a very small amount of effort, people can vote as many times as they want.

Jykke · 20 Jan 2003, 00:02

Jubilation indeed

Noob · 20 Jan 2003, 00:46

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Originally posted by Ditcher
Thumbs up for creators and voters.

dabult · 20 Jan 2003, 00:50

Thank God!

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[Cymru] · 20 Jan 2003, 01:02

Whhhhhheeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am soo happy i could dance! but there seems to be no bananas about

G.K Zhukov · 20 Jan 2003, 03:54

\o/

oh wait, Im aint gonna play

an even bigger \o/

Glatze · 20 Jan 2003, 08:05

OB gone...well sux for me, now i am certainly not going to play...

fiddler123b · 20 Jan 2003, 08:30

waa hooo! its gone.

i havent heard so many ppl that didnt want overburn gone

StarlockUV · 20 Jan 2003, 11:13

BUGGER

Gayle29uk · 20 Jan 2003, 11:55

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Originally posted by StarlockUV
BUGGER

Ditto

Galaxian · 20 Jan 2003, 12:21

OB defence certainly was an attraction and useful feature for the less active players. Removing OB defence just puts more potential customers off. It only helps the hardcore players who don't want their targets to be able to get defence from their 3am launch. Another nail in the coffin for PA.

Sun_Tzu · 20 Jan 2003, 12:25

Jolly good riddens to that awfull OB

^^

[ Edit: I hate school Keyboards :-/ ]

Sun_Tzu · 20 Jan 2003, 12:29

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Originally posted by Galaxian
OB defence certainly was an attraction and useful feature for the less active players. Removing OB defence just puts more potential customers off. It only helps the hardcore players who don't want their targets to be able to get defence from their 3am launch. Another nail in the coffin for PA.

idjit, would you play if you knew it was a game in which a successfull attack was nearly impossible? Infact, OB was much more in favour of those who had enough flak(be that friends of multi-planets) or those which had the skills to get past it's usual draw-backs.

If the Strategy-Forum crew tells you something, listen up and don't bitch ffs...

ArcChas · 20 Jan 2003, 12:35

So - OB defence gone.

The only thing that can save this round now is to keep ETA advantage (Cluster/Parallel) for defence only (as it was last round).

(Speaking purely as a player who enjoys an occasional four hours of sleep).

ComradeRob · 20 Jan 2003, 13:48

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Originally posted by Galaxian
OB defence certainly was an attraction and useful feature for the less active players. Removing OB defence just puts more potential customers off. It only helps the hardcore players who don't want their targets to be able to get defence from their 3am launch. Another nail in the coffin for PA.

It is offset by the existence of both parallels and clusters.

*shrug*

OB defence saved as many '1337' players as it saved 'newbies' during r8. All-in-all, I think the new changes provide greater advantages to those who engage with cluster/parallel alliances, which has to be a good thing for building community, which is something that PA relies upon.

Neferti · 20 Jan 2003, 16:49

OB attack was the only real way i got roids last round. about 90% of my OB attacks got through while only about 10% of my normal ones... and before you say 'TEAM UP YOU DUMB-ASS' over half my normal attacks were team efforts... on targets usually under 10mil in the kind of range a planet like me could attack...

Frizz · 20 Jan 2003, 19:22

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Originally posted by Tactitus
I wonder how many other people who are against OB don't know that there are private galaxies next round? :/

i do know and how do u know i am not playing random this round... maybe i got no m8s :P

Buddha · 20 Jan 2003, 22:35

So how many times did you vote? Me I voted numerous times

Also since it was tied into # of people in public galaxies. The vote is not a pure love/hate for OB. But a twisted poll on both topics. A much better poll would have been straight. OB keep it or toss it.

Hicks · 21 Jan 2003, 00:17

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Originally posted by Galaxian
Removing OB defence just puts more potential customers off. It only helps the hardcore players who don't want their targets to be able to get defence from their 3am launch. Another nail in the coffin for PA.

I'd have thought it was a far bigger advantage to the big alliance player with huge pools of ships ready to save them at ETA 5. Overburn just increased the levels of fustration and bordem, a far better system is the reduced cluster/parrallel ETA as it promotes co-operation between players and there's always the intensity of cluster/parrallel wars.

How is removing something which the majority of players wanted removed a nail in Planetarion's coffin ? The nails were hit into the coffin by the newbie friendly changes and not by doing what the majority of players asked for, people moan when the creators don't listen and then moan when they do.

Teh_Necro · 21 Jan 2003, 00:22

w00t lovley stuff.

-Necro

A2 · 21 Jan 2003, 00:23

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Originally posted by Buddha
So how many times did you vote? Me I voted numerous times
Also since it was tied into # of people in public galaxies. The vote is not a pure love/hate for OB. But a twisted poll on both topics. A much better poll would have been straight. OB keep it or toss it.

He's actually taking about the poll that was solely about overburn and was a mirror image of the PD one.
He's not talking about the one that had the 2 issues combined.

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Originally posted by Hicks
people moan when the creators don't listen and then moan when they do.

Disturbingly true and usually it's the same people.

Teh_Necro · 21 Jan 2003, 00:25

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Originally posted by Hicks
I'd have thought it was a far bigger advantage to the big alliance player with huge pools of ships ready to save them at ETA 5. Overburn just increased the levels of fustration and bordem, a far better system is the reduced cluster/parrallel ETA as it promotes co-operation between players and there's always the intensity of cluster/parrallel wars.

How is removing something which the majority of players wanted removed a nail in Planetarion's coffin ? The nails were hit into the coffin by the newbie friendly changes and not by doing what the majority of players asked for, people moan when the creators don't listen and then moan when they do.

Pleasing the masses is always a difficult task, as the masses may share certain opinions, but not all

-Necro

Glatze · 21 Jan 2003, 08:22

The only reason I, being semi-active, did well last round, was the OB attacks i could do now and then. Counter and retaliate enemies, and attacking some lowbies in higher clusters did it for me. When the round ended I was roidrank 500ish. Without OB I dont stand a chance. I know more have this feeling. Instead of attracting more players to this game by such decisions, the oposite will happen. Ppl like wont play the game, while I would have when OB would have been there. You always keep the actives anyway, they dont run away for OB...well apparently they do, but you know what I mean

mbushell · 21 Jan 2003, 09:30

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Originally posted by Tactitus
With a very small amount of effort, people can vote as many times as they want.