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Unread 15 Apr 2004, 17:57   #1
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
everyone likes hitler*


]*note, this does indeed, not reflect my personal views, but when you have it shouted at you enough times in waterstones, you have to repeat it occationally
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Personally I was going to go for Stalin :/
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Unread 15 Apr 2004, 18:07   #4
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Unread 15 Apr 2004, 18:08   #5
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
does genghis khan count?

apparently under his rule if you ate food in front of someone else and didnt offer it you could be killed

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Unread 15 Apr 2004, 18:09   #6
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Napolean seemed pretty cool to me, as he was actually a fairly decent general (as I understand) as well as being a despot, unlike others like Stalin who was pretty much just a party politician.

Oh and Mao. He did the civil war business and had the little red book. My mum had a copy of that when I was about 5.
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Unread 15 Apr 2004, 18:13   #7
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Napoleon almost joined the Royal Navy. Imagine what would have happened then.
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Lenin, for having the balls to lead a revolution and then defy popular and political opinion to create a one-party state and still have that state survive for the best part of a century (albeit as largely a third world country, which wasn't all his fault...).
Generally overlooked because Stalin killed more people, but he's my 'favourite' dictator
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Unread 15 Apr 2004, 18:18   #9
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george bush lmao
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Hideki Tojo.

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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
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and still have that state survive for the best part of a century (albeit as largely a third world country, which wasn't all his fault...).
By definition the Soviet Block was "the second world". The Industrialised west were the first, them the second, and the rest were the third.

Besides, the living standards in Russia weren't really comparable to most of Africa, Asia, etc.
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By definition the Soviet Block was "the second world". The Industrialised west were the first, them the second, and the rest were the third.

Besides, the living standards in Russia weren't really comparable to most of Africa, Asia, etc.
Hmm, i'd never thought about that.
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p.s. I'd nominate Leon Trotsky as the best "almost" dictator.
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Hong Xiuquan, if you want to go in for a little more oriental fanaticism.
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Lenin, for having the balls to lead a revolution and then defy popular and political opinion to create a one-party state and still have that state survive for the best part of a century (albeit as largely a third world country, which wasn't all his fault...).
Generally overlooked because Stalin killed more people, but he's my 'favourite' dictator
Russia was hardly a first world country before the revolution comrade.
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I see nobody has mentioned His Excellency President for Life Field Marshal Al Hadji Dr. Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular.
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p.s. I'd nominate Leon Trotsky as the best "almost" dictator.
I'd agree!
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Russia was hardly a first world country before the revolution comrade.
Quite true, but the Soviet Block had the potential to be considerably more than it reached...
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i don't particularly,

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p.s. I'd nominate Leon Trotsky as the best "almost" dictator.
I might have to give the nod to Simón Bolívar in that regard.
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Pol Pot.

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I might have to give the nod to Simón Bolívar in that regard.
Wasn't Bolivar actually President of Gran Colombia, and thus pretty ineligible for consideration?
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Does Cao Cao count?

If not then Stalin.
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Hmmm, I can't believe I forgot about Fidel.

40+ years and still going. He seems relatively popular (internationally at least). Not many dictators can say that.
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Wasn't Bolivar actually President of Gran Colombia, and thus pretty ineligible for consideration?
Well, he kept flirting with democracy. He couldn't make up his mind if he wanted to be a dictator or a democratically-elected president. I think he finally decided on 'President for Life,' but by then the South Americans were done with him.
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Tito.

one of the few dictators that basically everyone around the world right and left agreed would be much missed.
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p.s. I'd nominate Leon Trotsky as the best "almost" dictator.
Trotsky was an idiot. Just like 99% of those who call themselfs trotskist today.

I vote for V.I. Lenin and Mao. And Tito for forcing the serbs, croats, bosnians, albanians and the rest to live to gether peacefully.
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Tito was a shit, politically, like all the rest of them; he was just nuanced in his excercise of power, which most prominent dictators aren't.
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Suharto was probably the one with most internationall friends, and he did a jolly good of job in killing people too!
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Suharto was probably the one with most internationall friends, and he did a jolly good of job in killing people too!
He only had friends in governments though. Fidel is actually liked by quite a lot of random people too man.

Despite things like this : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3628435.stm
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Re: Bestest Dictators in history.
Castro. So good at it, he's even been able to open an entire museum devoted to CIA attempts to kill him.


That and the beard rocks.
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Castro looks like a hobo.
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Castro looks like a hobo.
Yes, and something must be said for a man who can't dress being in complete control of a nation.
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Julius Caesar, for the reason that most people don't even think of him as a dictator anymore (if any substantial number of people ever really did).
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Yes, and something must be said for a man who can't dress being in complete control of a nation.
The Green uniform had something to say for itself in the 60's. Now? No.
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Hitler, as he would have known how to solve the israel-palestinian conflict
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He nearly did, and it hadn't even started.

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He only had friends in governments though. Fidel is actually liked by quite a lot of random people too man.

Despite things like this : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3628435.stm
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