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at0mic.c0w · 28 May 2003, 20:26

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Since we now see a lot of accounts swapping owners due to the ability to update your emails (keep in mind, any prepaid credits for round 10 sticks to the OWNER of that email account) , we might be forced to reshuffle completely just before we start to tick. More on this when we know for sure.

1) someone has been norty =)
2) make sure u clean out inactives. i.e. everyone who hasnt loged in within 24 hours of the shuffle or something like that
3) let ppl change their planet names again
4) 'just before' tick start might be a bit short notice to get the GC and minister spots sorted.

kthxbyehaveagoodnight

Cochese · 28 May 2003, 20:27

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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
1) someone has been norty =)
2) make sure u clean out inactives. i.e. everyone who hasnt loged in within 24 hours of the shuffle or something like that
3) let ppl change their planet names again
4) 'just before' tick start might be a bit short notice to get the GC and minister spots sorted.

kthxbyehaveagoodnight

Seconded.

TheCoop · 28 May 2003, 20:29

this is really going to screw up the gal and cluster chans, after just getting all the p regging sorted we have to do it all over again...

furball · 28 May 2003, 20:30

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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
1) someone has been norty =)
2) make sure u clean out inactives. i.e. everyone who hasnt loged in within 24 hours of the shuffle or something like that
3) let ppl change their planet names again
4) 'just before' tick start might be a bit short notice to get the GC and minister spots sorted.

kthxbyehaveagoodnight

hopefully, with regard to point 4), he just means moving around galaxies.

however, it will still screw up cluster/parallel alliances (my galaxy has both).

Cochese · 28 May 2003, 20:30

That's what happens when Admins don't think "How can this be abused?" before doing something.

Bashar · 28 May 2003, 20:30

Seems people are coming up with more and more reasons for a shuffle atm. I think it is needed. Oh, and I agree with atomicwotsit. And I also wonder how many more shuffle threads we will have

Maddix · 28 May 2003, 20:33

Don't shuffle after saying you wouldn't.

Stop people from changing their emails and/or delete people you know have swapped - i.e. those who's email addresses were previously attached to a different account than where they are atm.

SYMM · 28 May 2003, 20:34

No shuffle!!
Its a free round, which people seem not to care so much about. It doesn't have to be the case that the actions of a few spoil it for everyone, if they know of specific cheats, then delete them. Otherwise do what they normally do and pretend nothing is wrong

ComradeRob · 28 May 2003, 20:37

No point in shuffling now... besides, people can swap after the shuffle too.

Just disable the email-change option (I have no idea why this was enabled :\). Then email everyone new passwords before ticks start.

Cicada · 28 May 2003, 20:39

they should revert the emails back to their original addresses, and mail out new passwords to those addresses

28 May 2003, 20:40

Can you please make so people who have changed planet name are shuffled together and the ones not to rename put elsewhere?

so gals will either be full of no changers or full of ones which have changed their planet names

SYMM · 28 May 2003, 20:41

And people who no longer have access to those addresses?

ComradeRob · 28 May 2003, 20:42

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Originally posted by SYMM
And people who no longer have access to those addresses?

They can sign up a new account with their new email address.

A2 · 28 May 2003, 20:42

Would this be a bad time to point out the word MIGHT used on the Message of the Day thing?

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The Message of the Day
Since we now see a lot of accounts swapping owners due to the ability to update your emails (keep in mind, any prepaid credits for round 10 sticks to the OWNER of that email account) , we might be forced to reshuffle completely just before we start to tick. More on this when we know for sure.

Cicada · 28 May 2003, 20:42

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Originally posted by A2
Would this be a bad time to point out the word MIGHT used on the Message of the Day thing?

might is the worst ****ing word to use..

they shoud make up their mind one way or another

Maddix · 28 May 2003, 20:47

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Originally posted by Cicada
might is the worst ****ing word to use..

they shoud make up their mind one way or another

Agreed, enough ppl have done enough organising already, without them doing even more and possibly seeing it fked.

A2 · 28 May 2003, 20:49

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Originally posted by ComradeRob
They can sign up a new account with their new email address.

People who have pre-paid for r10 need to be able to change their e-mail address so that their credits are tracked and they can recover them next round. If they couldn't change then there would be people who would lose credits due to changing e-mail addresses

zenopus · 28 May 2003, 20:50

Easy to solve.
Just shuffle all who changed their email addy.

SYMM · 28 May 2003, 20:50

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Originally posted by ComradeRob
They can sign up a new account with their new email address.

A system for transferring credits would be needed, but i can't see any other flaws now.

Don't shufle, reset emails, and send new passwords. Tell people that is what will happen ASAP, and they'll have plenty of time to signup again- with the added "bonus" that they will be in a gal with 10 other existing players- assuming not everyone does this

at0mic.c0w · 28 May 2003, 20:50

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Originally posted by Cicada
might is the worst ****ing word to use..

they shoud make up their mind one way or another

i thought about adding this as 0) but seriously that would be to much to wish for...

Whis · 28 May 2003, 20:53

A shuffle would be best thing to do if this uneven galaxy thing isn't sufficiently sorted by the time ticks are supposed to start.

SPQR · 28 May 2003, 20:55

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Originally posted by A2
People who have pre-paid for r10 need to be able to change their e-mail address so that their credits are tracked and they can recover them next round. If they couldn't change then there would be people who would lose credits due to changing e-mail addresses

Seriously, how often do you change your E-Mail adress? I think i didnt change my (main-)adress for 3 years now. And even if, i would most probably still be able to access my old one. So where is the problem?
I admit, there may be exceptions, but prolly just a handfull. That should be handled manualy by PMing the creators (or PA-Team?) then.

furball · 28 May 2003, 20:58

I agree, if they haven't logged in by now then they deserve to be with inactives.

Yeggstry · 28 May 2003, 21:01

Agreed.

Just hope one of the important ppl listens to this...

28 May 2003, 21:05

This stops account sharers how again ?

Spinner · 28 May 2003, 21:06

erm....lots of people have logged in but not changed their name...perhaps they enjoy the neutral anonymity for now? (-:
But point taken, inactives shoudl not be mixed in with the rest.

28 May 2003, 21:06

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Originally posted by DragonLord
This stops account sharers how again ?

Who said its meant to?

Its just so if we have acc sharers in a gal we also dont have inactive no name changers aswell

CrazyConrad · 28 May 2003, 21:14

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Originally posted by Cicada
might is the worst ****ing word to use..

they shoud make up their mind one way or another

Exactly...

CrazyConrad · 28 May 2003, 21:15

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Originally posted by Nonentity
I agree, if they haven't logged in by now then they deserve to be with inactives.

My comp went down few days ago and I just logged in for the first time this night.

Does this mean I deserve to be with inactives :/

28 May 2003, 21:33

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Originally posted by CrazyConrad
My comp went down few days ago and I just logged in for the first time this night.

Does this mean I deserve to be with inactives :/

They say the shuffle will be just before tickstart so im sure everyone who is going to change will have done so by then

Gerbie · 28 May 2003, 21:43

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Originally posted by SPQR
Seriously, how often do you change your E-Mail adress? I think i didnt change my (main-)adress for 3 years now. And even if, i would most probably still be able to access my old one. So where is the problem?
I admit, there may be exceptions, but prolly just a handfull. That should be handled manualy by PMing the creators (or PA-Team?) then.

I have a special emailadres for stuff like this. I also use it for spam sensitive cases. I only read the mail there if I expect email there. It was deleted a month ago because I hadn't checked it for a while. I could reclaim it, but that might not always be possible.

HiHou · 28 May 2003, 22:09

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Originally posted by SPQR
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I admit, there may be exceptions, but prolly just a handfull. That should be handled manualy by PMing the creators (or PA-Team?) then.

that's true!

Also... it sure was a misstake when u decided at the start not to make a new shuffle and informed about it. But we all make mistakes

so think atleast I can forgive this one

gl creators/PATeam what ever u decide to do. Ppl wont be happy no matter what u did, just do what u think is the best.

waassaa · 28 May 2003, 22:38

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Originally posted by SYMM
No shuffle!!
Its a free round, which people seem not to care so much about. It doesn't have to be the case that the actions of a few spoil it for everyone, if they know of specific cheats, then delete them. Otherwise do what they normally do and pretend nothing is wrong

word

waassaa · 28 May 2003, 22:42

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Since we now see a lot of accounts swapping owners due to the ability to update your emails (keep in mind, any prepaid credits for round 10 sticks to the OWNER of that email account) , we might be forced to reshuffle completely just before we start to tick. More on this when we know for sure.

if u have seen it, it means u can prove it, so delete the abusers and lets carry on, if they cheat in this manner they will cheat all round, don't give them the option.

waassaa · 28 May 2003, 22:57

damn, in fact i am getting really pissed about this.

yet again the pa creators are moving the goal.

to swap accoun ts is the same as account sharing, they should be closed, deleted and the ip address should be banned, they are cheaters.

why hassle the fair playing community for a bunch of cheats, you have admitted you know they have attempted to cheat, do something about it.

Or maybe we can find a loophole in the users agreement so your mates can stay open again.

isildurx · 28 May 2003, 22:58

i also agree with the people that said this was a free round, and that another shuffle aint needed.

i do think thou, that they should take the gals that has less than 10 people, and put them into gals with 11-12 ppl.

Not_RIT · 28 May 2003, 23:05

Nooo

It will only annoy more people imo

King_Sparticus · 28 May 2003, 23:06

indeed. Down with the shuffle. F00k the system etc.

TeraHertz · 28 May 2003, 23:08

erm...reshufle will stop password/nick trading how?

Pointless now. You've made the bed, now we all have to lie in it.

Denniz · 28 May 2003, 23:08

Shuffle \o/

Illogical · 28 May 2003, 23:09

Upto mister Spinner really, id prefer not, cos many people have stuff set up

But if you must you must, as you said on irc its a lose lose situation

other option is : just close every account thats had there email address changed and tell them to resign up

also disable email changing facility

- Logic

Eylisia · 28 May 2003, 23:12

My gal seems rather inactive, at least as of yet,
but shuffling is still a bad idea, hmmk?

Eyl

Denniz · 28 May 2003, 23:13

i changed my email.

Cuz i dont use the old one that much anymore,
and the new one i still use.
I dont see a reason to get closed / signup again for it.

dabult · 28 May 2003, 23:15

The ****up has already been made though, whether we like it or not, a shuffle IS needed. (im certainly not in favour of a shuffle myself, but i fear i think its needed)

Ohm · 28 May 2003, 23:18

1. Delete all accounts not accessed before shuffle on Monday.

2. Shuffle the rest into 15-20 planets-galaxies.

coza · 28 May 2003, 23:18

Yeah for **** sake, everyone has there gal nearly sorted and trying to get them active on irc
not to mention the work going into cluster and para alliaces
how bent can u be heh

Ohm · 28 May 2003, 23:19

1. Delete all accounts not accessed before shuffle on Monday.

2. Shuffle the rest into 15-20 planets-galaxies.

Ohm · 28 May 2003, 23:20

1. Delete all accounts not accessed before shuffle on Monday.

2. Shuffle the rest into 15-20 planets-galaxies.

TehVader · 28 May 2003, 23:23

shuffle is bad :/

coza · 28 May 2003, 23:29

who gives 2 shiny ****es ....

Round 3 here we come

multis rock