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Unread 23 Nov 2005, 23:57   #1
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new dawn ftw ???????

lookin at uni page with their roid lead etc and no major war to worry bout are they cruising to victory or will they get taken down
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Unread 23 Nov 2005, 23:57   #2
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

oooo they are evul and must be stopped
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

ALL HIT ND



we must stop the evil hobbitsies and get my precious back



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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

ND will get pegged back in due time, they just arent considered as much of a threat as 1up/Angels/eXi as can probably been seen from the amount of incoming
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

As this round has showed, the ones with alot roids get attacked.
The universe is too small for letting em keep the roids for long time.
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

No offence to ND, but i assume people don't consider them to be as hard to take down as the other top3 alliances and so let them have the roids for a longer period of time.

OR maybe Gate and Md have scared them away with their ugleh faces
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

Err... you're a bit off the ball here gzambo. The "WhackTheND" thread was created about a week ago :/
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

While ND was discussed on the AD forum, the ND HC simply lay back and watched.
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

lokken is the cute one in the middle
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

The one time i'm mentioned on any PA board whatsoever, i'm called ugly? :/
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

Go ND tbh. Crap thread.
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Comedy gold.
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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

"Dont put lite on ND, they are #2"
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No offence to ND, but i assume people don't consider them to be as hard to take down as the other top3 alliances and so let them have the roids for a longer period of time.

OR maybe Gate and Md have scared them away with their ugleh faces
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Tbh this is exactly the position ND likes to be in. Roidfat, not involved in any wars, easily cruising to #2 and #1 soon by doing what they criticized another alliance for a few round ago. But most importantly, they are hoping the other top alliances consider them as rather 'easy' to take out so they let them grow for now.

I'm not so convinced they're this easy to take out but it's funny to see Gate claim time after time that his own alliance isn't a top alliance. I guess to but the pressure and expectations off them?

Also, if they pick a war now and fight for the victory it'd still be seen as rather lame since they'll pick a war with an alliance that has already fought for the entire round. How would PA deal with the first alliance that might succeed in winning a round without doing the slightest efforts?
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Tbh this is exactly the position ND likes to be in. Roidfat, not involved in any wars, easily cruising to #2 and #1 soon by doing what they criticized another alliance for a few round ago. But most importantly, they are hoping the other top alliances consider them as rather 'easy' to take out so they let them grow for now.

I'm not so convinced they're this easy to take out but it's funny to see Gate claim time after time that his own alliance isn't a top alliance. I guess to but the pressure and expectations off them?

Also, if they pick a war now and fight for the victory it'd still be seen as rather lame since they'll pick a war with an alliance that has already fought for the entire round. How would PA deal with the first alliance that might succeed in winning a round without doing the slightest efforts?
I was just listening to Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody. They sung "any way the wind blows", just when I was reading your post.
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Also, if they pick a war now and fight for the victory it'd still be seen as rather lame since they'll pick a war with an alliance that has already fought for the entire round. How would PA deal with the first alliance that might succeed in winning a round without doing the slightest efforts?

so basically no matter what ND do you can have a go at them

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good for you but I'm not good with those cryptic subtle messages some pple seem to put across so why don't you just say what it is you're talking about so I can react decenty
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Also, if they pick a war now and fight for the victory it'd still be seen as rather lame since they'll pick a war with an alliance that has already fought for the entire round. How would PA deal with the first alliance that might succeed in winning a round without doing the slightest efforts?
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Tbh this is exactly the position ND likes to be in. Roidfat, not involved in any wars, easily cruising to #2 and #1 soon by doing what they criticized another alliance for a few round ago. But most importantly, they are hoping the other top alliances consider them as rather 'easy' to take out so they let them grow for now.

I'm not so convinced they're this easy to take out but it's funny to see Gate claim time after time that his own alliance isn't a top alliance. I guess to but the pressure and expectations off them?

Also, if they pick a war now and fight for the victory it'd still be seen as rather lame since they'll pick a war with an alliance that has already fought for the entire round. How would PA deal with the first alliance that might succeed in winning a round without doing the slightest efforts?
As I said earlier in a different thread, ND are boxing clever.
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They've manouvred themselves into this position, not someone else.


and if it gets them the win ... the problem is ..... a wins a win isn't it ?
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heh, it's funny how you make such a remark but not correct me. Then plz do tell me what alliance won a round by fencesitting and not fighting any wars whatsoever.
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good for you but I'm not good with those cryptic subtle messages some pple seem to put across so why don't you just say what it is you're talking about so I can react decenty
Well, you've posted earlier that our defense is no good. Not exactly those words, but it came down to the same thing. "1 night of decent incoming and see how much they lose" or something among those lines were your words. And now you say we're better than everybody thinks.

You are not happy when we stay out of the war, yet now you don't think it's fair if we actively joined the war.


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Re: new dawn ftw ???????

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Well, you've posted earlier that our defense is no good. Not exactly those words, but it came down to the same thing. "1 night of decent incoming and see how much they lose" or something among those lines were your words. And now you say we're better than everybody thinks.

You are not happy when we stay out of the war, yet now you don't think it's fair if we actively joined the war.


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FAnG r10.5, even though i was fang:O but we cant be blamed, opposition was just poor, even one of our allies was
Well, in r10.5 we fought a blockwar (sure not a fair one) and we fought 18hours war with Phraktos. It's not as if we stayed out of any wars or fence sit our way to the victory.

The opposition was indeed not great but then again, that's not something you can hold us responsible for.
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Well, you've posted earlier that our defense is no good. Not exactly those words, but it came down to the same thing. "1 night of decent incoming and see how much they lose" or something among those lines were your words. And now you say we're better than everybody thinks.

You are not happy when we stay out of the war, yet now you don't think it's fair if we actively joined the war.


True, I'm not happy you stayed out of the wars and that you climbed up like that doing nothing but random attacks and yes, having a war right now would be quite lame aswell because you'd be picking on an alliance that has fought an entire round already and who's moral might already be damaged etc.

Sorry but whatever you guys do for the remainder of the round, I'll be annoyed and will have lost a part of my respect towards you guys (and I only started respecting ND since last round, as Gate and fish know )
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True, I'm not happy you stayed out of the wars and that you climbed up like that doing nothing but random attacks and yes, having a war right now would be quite lame aswell because you'd be picking on an alliance that has fought an entire round already and who's moral might already be damaged etc.

Sorry but whatever you guys do for the remainder of the round, I'll be annoyed and will have lost a part of my respect towards you guys (and I only started respecting ND since last round, as Gate and fish know )
I am sorry that I dont do as you please...

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I am sorry that I dont do as you please...

Please forgive me!
It's not your job to please me

But that doesn't mean I have to like/respect what your alliance is doing. I guess we all are entitled to an opinion and the freedom to share this.
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It's not your job to please me

But that doesn't mean I have to like/respect what your alliance is doing. I guess we all are entitled to an opinion and the freedom to share this.
Yes you are, but no matter what is done, you keep complaining that we aint doing it right, or it isnt fair, or the win wouldnt be right etc..
Could you make up your mind, and i might do it?
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True, I'm not happy you stayed out of the wars and that you climbed up like that doing nothing but random attacks and yes, having a war right now would be quite lame aswell because you'd be picking on an alliance that has fought an entire round already and who's moral might already be damaged etc.

Sorry but whatever you guys do for the remainder of the round, I'll be annoyed and will have lost a part of my respect towards you guys (and I only started respecting ND since last round, as Gate and fish know )
Kj you are such a hypocrit.

First of all you complain we were doing random attacks.

Then we concentrated on you for a while. Then you moan again how we aren't makings thing fair.

So don't concentrate on you again, going back to hitting anybody and everybody with roids, and you still aren't happy.

TBH Kj, ND plays for ND, and you expect US to make things easy for you to win. We are doing what we want, and nothing you can say is going to change that.

Alright, we aint as good as eXi/Angels/1up, so what? We're doing the best we can with what we have. If that doesn't please you, tough willy.

These ND threads are boring already.
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plz do tell me what alliance won a round by fencesitting and not fighting any wars whatsoever.
I was refering specifically to WP/nos in round 6. I'd claim that Fury/Legion's victory in round 3 fits pretty well into 'not fighting any wars whatsoever', though of course there wasn't a fence to sit on back then...

Also, if 18 hour wars count, I think ND had one of those this round.
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TBH Kj, ND plays for ND
Isn't it funny how we weren''t allowed to do that in r13?
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Yes you are, but no matter what is done, you keep complaining that we aint doing it right, or it isnt fair, or the win wouldnt be right etc..
Could you make up your mind, and i might do it?
I made up my mind already, don't worry and what's done is done and cannot be changed anyway so ....
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I was refering specifically to WP/nos in round 6. I'd claim that Fury/Legion's victory in round 3 fits pretty well into 'not fighting any wars whatsoever', though of course there wasn't a fence to sit on back then...

Also, if 18 hour wars count, I think ND had one of those this round.
Well I'm sorry then, didn't know it went that way on those rounds... fair enough.

18 hours wars don't count. It's not even a war, I'm just saying that phraktos openly declared was on us but collapsed after 18 ticks ... We did have a blockwar before all this happened though.

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Isn't it funny how we weren''t allowed to do that in r13?
Quite entitled to play for NOS yes - nobody had/has an issue with that. The problem was napping every man and his dog.
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Kj you are such a hypocrit.

First of all you complain we were doing random attacks.

Then we concentrated on you for a while. Then you moan again how we aren't makings thing fair.

So don't concentrate on you again, going back to hitting anybody and everybody with roids, and you still aren't happy.

TBH Kj, ND plays for ND, and you expect US to make things easy for you to win. We are doing what we want, and nothing you can say is going to change that.

Alright, we aint as good as eXi/Angels/1up, so what? We're doing the best we can with what we have. If that doesn't please you, tough willy.

These ND threads are boring already.
I'm no hypocrit. You might say I've learned from our mistakes but I'm certainly no hypocrit.

It's good that you play for ND, good for you. But that doesn't mean I have to like it and respect it?

I'm not telling you what to do and I never will, I'm just expressing my opinion on what you're doing. Just like you lot did and still do on things that Angels do.
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Quite entitled to play for NOS yes - nobody had/has an issue with that. The problem was napping every man and his dog.
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We weren't exactly the only ones napping around on both sides, were we?
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I'm no hypocrit. You might say I've learned from our mistakes but I'm certainly no hypocrit.

It's good that you play for ND, good for you. But that doesn't mean I have to like it and respect it?

I'm not telling you what to do and I never will, I'm just expressing my opinion on what you're doing. Just like you lot did and still do on things that Angels do.
Well, if you're taking that attitude, I might also.

If you were the leader of ND now Kj, what would you do?

In all honesty, going on previous Angels Commands decsion making ability, I expect you guys to **** your round up and hand it to eXi by hitting NewDawn soon. You wont see the bigger picture, you'll go for some easy roids, whilst letting eXi get away from you, and you will then have to have an enemy in ND as well as trying to beat eXi to rank 1. You will then come to the forums and moan about how ND is eXi's puppets and how Angels are so brilliant.
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Well, if you're taking that attitude, I might also.

If you were the leader of ND now Kj, what would you do?

In all honesty, going on previous Angels Commands decsion making ability, I expect you guys to **** your round up and hand it to eXi by hitting NewDawn soon. You wont see the bigger picture, you'll go for some easy roids, whilst letting eXi get away from you, and you will then have to have an enemy in ND as well as trying to beat eXi to rank 1. You will then come to the forums and moan about how ND is eXi's puppets and how Angels are so brilliant.
Angels are playing to end #1. I'm sure you're capable of seeing that we've been hitting exi and nobody else. If we'd want easy roids, we'd do what you guys do and hit the roidfat alliances rather then the #1 alliance so you're able to win yourself.
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Angels are playing to end #1. I'm sure you're capable of seeing that we've been hitting exi and nobody else. If we'd want easy roids, we'd do what you guys do and hit the roidfat alliances rather then the #1 alliance so you're able to win yourself.
eXi and nobody else? LOL

Maybe your organised raids are hitting eXi....
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eXi and nobody else? LOL

Maybe your organised raids are hitting eXi....
We do retals aswell, we do fleetcatches aswell. Both on exi as on alliances hitting Angel members. And we have the occassional member that refuses to listen and decides to do solo attacks.
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well, good luck NewDawn - maybe it works out for you.

Better you than exil.

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We do retals aswell, we do fleetcatches aswell. Both on exi as on alliances hitting Angel members. And we have the occassional member that refuses to listen and decides to do solo attacks.
...or has an agreement to avoid hitting eXil.

But I can completely understand your frustration. ND went through a very similar period in r13 when we were hammered from PT200 onwards, and later suffered arrogance from some of NoS' members despite their alliance NAPping their way through everything.

Angels, 1up and eXilition all probably deserve to be above ND on pure ability, but ND is doing the best with what it has available and if that means playing by ND's rules, that's the route they will take, regardless of criticism. So long as it is seen to not damage the game, or be genuinely dishonourable; ND will take the route with the most long term gain.
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