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Unread 31 Dec 2005, 15:14   #1
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The 5 week Round?

I dont know if any or all of these points have been raised, and tbh I cba trolling thorugh the forums to find out, so hopefully someone will either point me in the right direction, post the answers or shoot me down in flames ?

The 5 week round if it ticks at normal speed (i saw the thread about 30 min ticks) will have very limited scope for research and constructions for the average player.

Would it be possible (or even a good idea) to give each planet half the tech tree completed and possibly 3 of each Cons that could be constructed with that level of research ?

Also start up I would suggest each planet has 300 roids, and 1.5 Million of each Resource?

Dependant on race selection the roids would be split in the best interest of the race chosen.

(Zik would have 80M 80C 140E for example)

As i said perhaps these things have been raised and settled I have no idea?

Opinions or Flames please thx

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Unread 31 Dec 2005, 16:33   #2
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Re: The 5 week Round?

Sounds like a good idea to me.
I definitely think that we should do normal 1 hr ticks, so yeah, we would need something to get the game up to speed.

300 roids / 1.5 mil of each resource (4.5 mil total) sounds like a reasonable amount to start off with. However, your balance is a bit too eonium-heavy.
Ship costs are in a 3:3:4 ratio, so 90M, 90C and 120E would be the correct balance.
[Balance the resources too, 1,350,000M, 1,350,000C, 1,800,000E]
Of course, Ter and Cath should get an appropriate balance too...
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Re: The 5 week Round?

As for constructions/researches, this is just a suggestion, but:

==Constructions==
1 Light Factory
1 Medium Factory
4 Wave Amplifier
4 Wave Distorter
3 Research Lab
1 Metal Refinery
1 Crystal Refinery
1 Eonium Refinery

==Research==
1 ETA research
Frigate Class Hulls
20 constructions
1 Core Extraction
2 covop
3 scans
the HCT research that enables you to mine 300 roids
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Re: The 5 week Round?

Just reduce research times
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Re: The 5 week Round?

Do nothing, adapt, and plan your research-routes carefully.
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Re: The 5 week Round?

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Do nothing, adapt, and plan your research-routes carefully.
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Re: The 5 week Round?

nah do 1h tick havoc for 5 weeks full res/con and enough res to have fun other whis its just as usuall various fr fleet owning terran and co owning all as usuall unless the stats have a major change newt round
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Unread 31 Dec 2005, 20:13   #11
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Re: The 5 week Round?

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All well and good for those that are on 24/7

To be fair to the "Mr Average" player, surely it is in the best interest to start everyone with something, at least that way the differences will not be so glaringly obvious as rapidly if started from 0 ?

Bear in mind it is easy for alliances to get the various constructions and research done across their membership by asking them to specialise in a particular route. Scanners for example are an obvious route to take, but it would become more so by getting some to proceed quickly to BR/CR and others to follow a more research conscious route and to obtain constructions in other fields.

The smaller alliances would be at a big disadvantage real fast as would the solo player in trying to gain all areas of research.
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Re: The 5 week Round?

Seeing as most researches take between 1 and 3 days to complete, you don't actually have to be online 24/7. Hell, you can probably do every single research without missing a tick anyway once they reach this length of time. The only difference is that people will have to be a bit more tactful about which researches they choose (and you can bet it won't be that much different to a 10-week round in that HCTs and ETAs will be chosen first).

To conclude, this promotes tactics, which afaik is what the game is trying to focus on rather than uber-activity.
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Re: The 5 week Round?

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To conclude, this promotes tactics, which afaik is what the game is trying to focus on rather than uber-activity.

The only tactic it will employ is that the uber-alliances will ensure they have members carrying out all areas of research, once again causing a schism between the good soloist and the poor alliance member who just happens to have access to a scanner.

As a member of what can be described as a decent alliance and a former member of a top 10 Alliance.

It is possible to have news scans by tick 80ish and JGP by 105 (maybe slightly different this last round but that was r13 when I was LCH scanner)

Now the alliances obviously able to have dedicated scanners they will reach that goal as normal, and in normal round (10 to 12 weeks) the leser alliances would probably be around 20 to 30 ticks behind that, and the soloist perhaps another 20. This "advantage is what the alliances work at and fair play it does give them an opportunity using this tactic but the solo player/small alliance have time to recover that difference and are soon on a reasonable footing with regard to access to scans.

With the short round of 5 weeks that places the uber-alliances (top 10-15) with an advantage that can never be regained or even touched by the ones lower down the food chain and in particular the solo player. Simply put they will never have time to gain a level footing.

Once again we see the game being slewed to how the big alliances prefer it, yes planetarion is about teams and alliances, but a new player with zero experience is not going to get into an alliance of any sort and needs a fair chance at playing the game even if it is with lower expectations.

Giving the alliances this advantage is simply unfair and unreasonable to the smaller alliances and in particular the new players that want a shot at the game, or have heard of it from the advertising etc....

This 5 week round is an opportunity to this community to show planetarion at it's best and hopefully bring in new blood for future rounds.

Lets not waste it.

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Re: The 5 week Round?

and if you start people with researches by your agruement all this will do will mean the "uber alliances" get jgp almost staight outof protection instead of ~30 ticks after protection ends, and imo jgps are out too early as it is.

If hull research was given it would just mean the "big ships" come out earlier which is a disadvantage to xans and CO-caths.

i am very much against giving extra resources since it makes the round "havoc like" which is crap, and the only extra research I could be "persuaded" to get on board with is HCT, but all this would do is mean these "uber active" players can get FA/eta and ships faster, which further increases the gap between the "uber active" and "mr average"
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Unread 1 Jan 2006, 11:59   #15
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Re: The 5 week Round?

Basically what Stifler said.

That, and the bottom line is, its no different at all to a 10-week round - unless you'd like to start every round from now on with a havoc-like environment.
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