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Unread 10 Jul 2003, 00:33   #1
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Great Tactic LDK

You have me stumped. One of the attacks I planned on you tonight is proving.... difficult. We cannot calc you see, the defenders are closed, a very large proportion, so we have no idea what will happen as we cannot scan them and see what they sent. A truly effective tactic. Very creative.

By the way LDK, have fun, I hope the fun and games we have organised give you as much fun as they have us. Despite the tactic mentioned above, I have noticed a spaark in many players today that has been absent too long. They once again are enjoying PA, and for that, you have my sincere thanks
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I'm not especially enjoying the actual attack, however, it gives me another instance of ineptitude with which to complain at the PA Team about.

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Bashar, you seem to blessed with a big mouth. Be careful not to trip over it again, ey?
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aye, closed planets should be frozen totally with fleets too, or fleets returned to planet to stop such things happening, else multi's can still cause havoc.
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aye, closed planets should be frozen totally with fleets too, or fleets returned to planet to stop such things happening, else multi's can still cause havoc.
Agreed. When a planet is closed all hostiles (and maybe friendlies) are recalled from it, so that noone can benefit from it being closed.

They should use the exact same reasoning for recalling fleets beloning to a closed planet.
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Bashar, you seem to blessed with a big mouth. Be careful not to trip over it again, ey?
Are you disagreeing? 60mil worth of closed defenders on one planet where most defenders are 3-5mil. I will let you make a decision, considering there are 37 defending fleets. That is a lot, whoever ran the defence must have known all was not well.

Also, the second paragraph I stand by, and it was not sarcasm. Lots of people are having fun today.
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lots of fun and lack of sleep! ya forgot to mention the lack of sleep
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Agreed. When a planet is closed all hostiles (and maybe friendlies) are recalled from it, so that noone can benefit from it being closed.

They should use the exact same reasoning for recalling fleets beloning to a closed planet.
We agree here, especially as this forms a sizable amount of the defence against us, and worse, we cannot find out what the defence is as scans can't get through. Not only are we losing out to multies, but we are flying blind into them because they are closed.
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lots of fun and lack of sleep! ya forgot to mention the lack of sleep
Nope, I done my part in this. Off to bed, good night
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Are you disagreeing? 60mil worth of closed defenders on one planet where most defenders are 3-5mil. I will let you make a decision, considering there are 37 defending fleets. That is a lot, whoever ran the defence must have known all was not well.

Also, the second paragraph I stand by, and it was not sarcasm. Lots of people are having fun today.
No no, your're quite correct in that closed planet's fleets should be recalled home. My point was just that you tend to run to the boards as soon as something seems to be going your way, to make a thread about it.
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i agree totaly.. so far this day has been great.. i havent realy attacked or defended the last week/weeks.. and now finaly somethings happends..

im looking forward to the battlereport for the next tick.. will be fun=)

btw: im attacking xx:xx:xx atm, and attacking 1 of the defenders and 1 other guy in that gal=)

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aye, closed planets should be frozen totally with fleets too, or fleets returned to planet to stop such things happening, else multi's can still cause havoc.
True, remember my gal rnd6 getting bot-inc from Killmark, we actually lost some score since PA-crew didn't manage close'em all before they arrived...Even tho they stopped the ticks, heh

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how come the roidcap is so low when there are 350 mill fleetscore on attackers side and 500 mill fleetscore on defenders?
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Because defenders fleet score doesn't contribute to the cap possibly, only the defenders planet itself?
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Because defenders fleet score doesn't contribute to the cap possibly, only the defenders planet itself?

I dont think you needed to add that questionmark, it sounded like a question to me so a dot would have been fine
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but then it would be a 350 mill fleet on a 69 mill planet... what cap would that be? 3%?

what an unfair system :/
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I dont think you needed to add that questionmark, it sounded like a question to me so a dot would have been fine
Hmmm. Bloody good point there, it looks like I'm asking. :/

I just felt it sounded more sarcastic with the question mark, like it was something anyone would know.

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but then it would be a 350 mill fleet on a 69 mill planet... what cap would that be? 3%?

what an unfair system :/
having defence increase cap would be very open to abuse (attackers defending with ships that dont target any of the attacking ships to ensure max cap for example)
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Hmmm. Bloody good point there, it looks like I'm asking. :/

I just felt it sounded more sarcastic with the question mark, like it was something anyone would know.

Youd be surprised at the amount of people, playing since r3/r4 that still think cap goes up with defending fleet score. It doesnt, for the still retarded among you, and hasnt done so for the past 4 rounds at least.
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Agreed. When a planet is closed all hostiles (and maybe friendlies) are recalled from it, so that noone can benefit from it being closed.

They should use the exact same reasoning for recalling fleets beloning to a closed planet.
yes i remember week ago LDK target was locked and attacking fleets were recalled. fact so lets recall all fleets or smth?
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No no, your're quite correct in that closed planet's fleets should be recalled home. My point was just that you tend to run to the boards as soon as something seems to be going your way, to make a thread about it.
Eh? You read what I said? The whole point was that due to closed planets, it wasn't going our way.
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Eh? You read what I said? The whole point was that due to closed planets, it wasn't going our way.
That wasn't the whole point though, was it?
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That wasn't the whole point though, was it?
There were 2 points, so you are right there. The first one is the point I clarified in my last post for those who mistook its meaning somehow, which I can't quite grasp why. The second was the fact that the game is becomming fun again. I said that due to a number of people I have seen on IRC who have suddenly gained lots of enthusiasm which wasn't there before, and also some have even stated that at last the game is becoming fun again. It was nice to see people saying that rather than saying "PA is crap, why the fk do I play it?". It makes the atmosphere within the community that much better when people are enjoying themselves. That can only be a good thing for us all
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There were 2 points, so you are right there. The first one is the point I clarified in my last post for those who mistook its meaning somehow, which I can't quite grasp why. The second was the fact that the game is becomming fun again. I said that due to a number of people I have seen on IRC who have suddenly gained lots of enthusiasm which wasn't there before, and also some have even stated that at last the game is becoming fun again. It was nice to see people saying that rather than saying "PA is crap, why the fk do I play it?". It makes the atmosphere within the community that much better when people are enjoying themselves. That can only be a good thing for us all
We are loosing - PA CRAP!!!!
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I thought it was far more fun to lose PA than to win it.
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I don't want to be loose, I still have some dignity you know.

Anyway, I am not sure what you are on about. You sound like you are trying to be smart, and if this is the case, you must be a hell of a lot smarter than me, cos I don't understand wtf you are on about.
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I don't want to be loose, I still have some dignity you know.

Anyway, I am not sure what you are on about. You sound like you are trying to be smart, and if this is the case, you must be a hell of a lot smarter than me, cos I don't understand wtf you are on about.
i`m trying to say:

1. pa is fun for u and ppl like u only when u`r on the winnig side. if u`r not u allways try to justify your self by some lame excuses

2. yes i might be smarter than u
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i`m trying to say:

1. pa is fun for u and ppl like u only when u`r on the winnig side. if u`r not u allways try to justify your self by some lame excuses

2. yes i might be smarter than u
but what you're actually saying is:

I'm a twat who'll try and give people a bit of stick on the boards for no apparent reason other than to make me feel "big"

The situation Bashar was talking about can be applied to almost any round of PA where there has been dominance and it isn't about "I'm getting beat so PA is ****" - it's more a case of people getting disheartened and only defending instead of attacking, which we all know is really where the fun of the game is.

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but what you're actually saying is:

I'm a twat who'll try and give people a bit of stick on the boards for no apparent reason other than to make me feel "big"

The situation Bashar was talking about can be applied to almost any round of PA where there has been dominance and it isn't about "I'm getting beat so PA is ****" - it's more a case of people getting disheartened and only defending instead of attacking, which we all know is really where the fun of the game is.

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Re: Great Tactic LDK

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You have me stumped. One of the attacks I planned on you tonight is proving.... difficult. We cannot calc you see, the defenders are closed, a very large proportion, so we have no idea what will happen as we cannot scan them and see what they sent. A truly effective tactic. Very creative.

By the way LDK, have fun, I hope the fun and games we have organised give you as much fun as they have us. Despite the tactic mentioned above, I have noticed a spaark in many players today that has been absent too long. They once again are enjoying PA, and for that, you have my sincere thanks

btw, what was the alliance that got all the multi defence? And Im sure whomever it was will say "they where not memebers of our alliance, etc."
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btw, what was the alliance that got all the multi defence? And Im sure whomever it was will say "they where not memebers of our alliance, etc."
btw, what was the alliance that got all the multi attack? And Im sure whomever it was will say "they where not memebers of our alliance, etc."
or : "they were all bashed."
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btw, what was the alliance that got all the multi attack? And Im sure whomever it was will say "they where not memebers of our alliance, etc."
or : "they were all bashed."
I am under 1m and send my fleet out to attack there as well. Pulled it though
Yup, I lost all fleet a while ago so bashed is the right word i guess. I have a 4m galm8 from bol alliance send some ships there as well. Also I saw the very small planet of my pall supercatzz there as well. Hmm yes, it isn't strange that small planets send along on big attacks. Always a small chance of some roids. Often some small n00bs hob on these attacks.

Also the alliances attacking are much smaller then LDK and some even have recruiting wings so have actually genuine new players who haven't played whole round or are small due to their lack of experience. But strangly the defending leading LDK alliance that does not recruit (at least not amonst n00bs) is producing more small planets than even the n00biest of alliances has.

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I am under 1m and send my fleet out to attack there as well. Pulled it though
Yup, I lost all fleet a while ago so bashed is the right word i guess. I have a 4m galm8 from bol alliance send some ships there as well. Also I saw the very small planet of my pall supercatzz there as well. Hmm yes, it isn't strange that small planets send along on big attacks. Always a small chance of some roids. Often some small n00bs hob on these attacks.

Also the alliances attacking are much smaller then LDK and some even have recruiting wings so have actually genuine new players who haven't played whole round or are small due to their lack of experience. But strangly the defending leading LDK alliance that does not recruit (at least not amonst n00bs) is producing more small planets than even the n00biest of alliances has.

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havent seen any LDK on this thread yet
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anyways, i agree with the shipreturn part about closed planets..
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PA crew is just closing them because they are LDK! We are not cheaters! Those planets are innocent!
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btw, what was the alliance that got all the multi defence? And Im sure whomever it was will say "they where not memebers of our alliance, etc."


LDK as in the topic, but even if it wasn't in the topic, would you really need to ask??
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