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Unread 11 Apr 2006, 03:09   #1
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Men who pay for sex are 'as bad as child abusers' - MP Fiona Mactaggart

This woman is insane. Certifiable and completely loony. If you're wondering about the kind of people who dream up the insanity we talk about on these forums shes an example. Incidently shes the one who's also behind the 'drunk rape' witch hunt about to be set on us.

How Fiona Mactaggart voted on key issues since 2001 (From Public Whip) :

Very strongly for the reduction of parliamentary scrutiny.
Very strongly for introducing ID cards.
Very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws.
Very strongly for the Iraq war.

She does have some moderate voting views


Moderately for equal gay rights.


nicely balanced, eh?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gender/sto...686862,00.html

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/News/2006...9bc8e0d40b.htm

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/fio...taggart/slough
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Re: Men who pay for sex are 'as bad as child abusers' - MP Fiona Mactaggart

How do you 'stongly' vote for something? Press the pen down on the sheet of paper really really hard?
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Re: Men who pay for sex are 'as bad as child abusers' - MP Fiona Mactaggart

There's more than one vote per issue, and the "very strongly" bit refers to their overall voting record on that issue. See : http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpid=1822&dmp=258 for example.

edit : Anyway, while the woman may be rather wrongheaded given her voting record, I'm not really sure the Guardian's headline is a fair summary. They seem to be saying that the "as bad as child abusers" bit is a direct quote but then they don't supply the context the quote appears in (as far as I can see). Where they do quote her at length she says :
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'I don't think most men who use prostitutes think of themselves as child abusers, but they are,' she told The Observer. 'It could change things if we changed the view of prostitution from "it's the oldest profession" to "this is the most common form of child abuse".'
Which is slightly different from the headline as she seems to be mainly talking about the large number of prostitutes who are young (or at least start young).

The weakness in her case however seems to be lumping all people who sell sex together and then using the worst case (e.g. underage prostitutes) to justify a general attitude. We don't pretend that Pablo Escobar is the same as Darren on the estate who sells £50 of weed a week to supplement his income support, so why imagine we can merge all cases/contexts of prostitutes together too.

Clearly a lot of prositution is patently exploitative and users of such services have got to carry some of the moral responsibility for the conditions faced by sex workers. There was a case I mentioned before about a girl who had sex multiple times a day with clients despite the fact she had broken bones (to keep her in one place, presumably). Now, if you go and visit a brothel and realise the girl you're ****ing is in such a state, or is merely very very young then you have an obligation to do something. If not contacting the authorities then at least go back in a Travis Bickle style vengeance mission with a range of illegally purchased firearms.

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Re: Men who pay for sex are 'as bad as child abusers' - MP Fiona Mactaggart

Her comments are pointlessly hyperbolic, but partly correct. I dont think there's anything particularly wrong with selling sex in an abstract sense (although I''d question the self-esteem of those who paid for it), but the fact that something is ok in principal doesnt mean that you should ignore the details of how its currently implemented. The world of street prostitution seems very grim - we arent talking about high class brothels where women sell sex and then lead otherwise normal lives. The scene is, as far as I know, filled with drug abuse and abusive pimps (although admittedly I dont claim to be an expert on the lives of prostitutes).


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Fiona MacTaggart, the Home Office minister, is also considering relaxing laws that prevent off-street prostitutes working in pairs from private flats, which reformers argue is safer than working solo.
It seems to me that, like most bad things in our society, the horrors associated with street prostitution are largely a result of government regulation. If all laws regarding the sale of sex were repealed tomorrow, and prostitution became a legal industry with brothels publically advertising their services and competiting in a market based enviornment like other businesses, I suspect that most of the crime and exploitation* associated with the profession would disappear. Like the world of drug dealing, most of the problems and unsavoury elements are a result of existing in an underground enivornment, out of sight, and not protected by the law. And this is entirely the fault of the government, and those who refuse to condemn the relevant laws.









* I mean actual, tangible exploitation, not feminist nonsense about how all objectification of women is inherantly oppressive and so on.

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Re: Men who pay for sex are 'as bad as child abusers' - MP Fiona Mactaggart

Women who are against prostitution to such an absurd extent are normally lesbians.

I have nothing more to back this up than I read one book by a woman against prostitution and she was as gay as a window. Still, the evidence is compelling.
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Re: Men who pay for sex are 'as bad as child abusers' - MP Fiona Mactaggart

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'I don't think most men who use prostitutes think of themselves as child abusers, but they are,' she told The Observer.
What is a child? A person below 18 years in the UK AFAIK. I am pretty sure she doesnt imply that the majority (or even a significant portion) of prostitutes in the UK are below legal age?

Isnt this typical "mindf*ck" of "lobbying" groups in linguistic preparation of legal battlegrounds.

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It definately could. Hey it seems like redefining "war" as "forward defence" (read: deploying troups in foreign countries far away) mostly worked, so there is still hope
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They seem to be saying that the "as bad as child abusers" bit is a direct quote but then they don't supply the context the quote appears in (as far as I can see). Where they do quote her at length she says :

Which is slightly different from the headline as she seems to be mainly talking about the large number of prostitutes who are young (or at least start young).

'I don't think most men who use prostitutes think of themselves as child abusers, but they are,' she told The Observer. 'It could change things if we changed the view of prostitution from "it's the oldest profession" to "this is the most common form of child abuse".'


It seems a pretty fair quote to me. Even if you want to take her word for it (and like most moral panics im doubtful the whores on the street started out aged 9 singing its a hard knock life) how the **** can you make someone responsible in any meaninfgul way for someone elses past when they've had no prior contact?

Besides i still think Ms Mactaggart has 'issues' regarding 'men' and 'sex' in general.


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Like a lot of other things, whilst I have no particular objection to prostitution in and of itself, clearly much of the prostitution industry in the UK is pure evil, involving kidnapping, slavery and abuse and so forth.
Any links? not being argumentative but i am curious about whether that is actually true. You could say some of it involves what you say but 'much'?



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It seems to me that, like most bad things in our society, the horrors associated with street prostitution are largely a result of government regulation. If all laws regarding the sale of sex were repealed tomorrow, and prostitution became a legal industry with brothels publically advertising their services and competiting in a market based enviornment like other businesses, I suspect that most of the crime and exploitation* associated with the profession would disappear. Like the world of drug dealing, most of the problems and unsavoury elements are a result of existing in an underground enivornment, out of sight, and not protected by the law. And this is entirely the fault of the government, and those who refuse to condemn the relevant laws.
I agree completely. Incidently although ive never had sex with a prostitute i have watched porn, do you question my self esteem?
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'I don't think most men who use prostitutes think of themselves as child abusers, but they are,' she told The Observer. 'It could change things if we changed the view of prostitution from "it's the oldest profession" to "this is the most common form of child abuse".'
Well, maybe it is the most common form of child abuse (that seems like an empirical question though). She's making a mistake, but not the one you seem to think she's making. Let's imagine there are a million cases of child abuse a year. 40% by family members, 10% by "strangers", 50% by clients of child prostitutes (I doubt this is true but let's stick with it). Let's also imagine there are 2 million cases of prostitution a year, 75% with adult prostitutes, 25%with child (i.e. under 18) prostitutes. In this (highly hypothetical) case it'd still be true to say that prostitution would be the most common form of child abuse even though only a quarter of all prostitution cases were with kids. If that makes sense.
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Possibly, but I dislike those sorts of accusations - it's a cheap kind of politics. If her ideas are crazy there's no need to psychoanalyse her possible motivations. Hey, you only agree with capitalism because you hate black people!
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Well, maybe it is the most common form of child abuse (that seems like an empirical question though). She's making a mistake, but not the one you seem to think she's making. Let's imagine there are a million cases of child abuse a year. 40% by family members, 10% by "strangers", 50% by clients of child prostitutes (I doubt this is true but let's stick with it). Let's also imagine there are 2 million cases of prostitution a year, 75% with adult prostitutes, 25%with child (i.e. under 18) prostitutes. In this (highly hypothetical) case it'd still be true to say that prostitution would be the most common form of child abuse even though only a quarter of all prostitution cases were with kids. If that makes sense.
But she says most men who use prostitutes don't see themselves as child abusers but they are, and the headline takes from that. I think the confusion is because shes trying to say two different things at once.

The majority of men using prostitutes are child abusers.
The majority of child abuse is through prostitution.

The first line would suggest a wide scale problem of child prostitutes, the second wouldn't (necesarrily).

The headline as far as i can tell takes from the first statement, but goes on the assumption that there aren't that many child prostitutes.


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Possibly, but I dislike those sorts of accusations - it's a cheap kind of politics. If her ideas are crazy there's no need to psychoanalyse her possible motivations. Hey, you only agree with capitalism because you hate black people!

Fair enough, and ive kissed more black girls than you
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Any links? not being argumentative but i am curious about whether that is actually true. You could say some of it involves what you say but 'much'?
Being anecdotal and all I can recall at least three separate news stories in the last ~18 months specifically concerning prostitution through slavery in the UK.
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Being anecdotal and all I can recall at least three separate news stories in the last ~18 months specifically concerning prostitution through slavery in the UK.

But would that constitute the majority of prostitution?
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In my opinion there is a big difference between the young girls thats being 'Trafficed', and the ugly mug down at the corner who sells herself to get money.

I dont like either of them, but i honestly think there should be a line drawn to separate the two.
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But would that constitute the majority of prostitution?
I certainly didn't claim that it did and neither did T&F.
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I certainly didn't claim that it did and neither did T&F.

well ok, without getting into another GD discussion on language, we'll sit here and wait until t&f clarifies 'much'
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well ok, without getting into another GD discussion on language, we'll sit here and wait until t&f clarifies 'much'
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I don't really see what's wrong with prostitution tbh
nor do I see the link between child abusers and people who pay for sex
Does she imply that prostitutes are similar to defenceless children?
Then why doesn't she let them be treated as such and force them out of it?

I think it's more 'wrong' what the prostitutes are doing then what those men do
They are the once that offer those services
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I don't really see what's wrong with prostitution tbh
nor do I see the link between child abusers and people who pay for sex
Does she imply that prostitutes are similar to defenceless children?
Then why doesn't she let them be treated as such and force them out of it?

I think it's more 'wrong' what the prostitutes are doing then what those men do
They offer those services

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I believe her "point" is that because the most common form of child abuse IS prostitution (i.e there are more cases of prostitutes under 16 than other kinds of child abuse) then prostitution should be seen as child abuse. It's complete nonsense of course and many other people here have already said so.

Not that I'm saying that the whole "child abuse is bad" thing is nonsense, but her reasoning is. See JBG's "mammal" post.
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I believe her "point" is that because the most common form of child abuse IS prostitution (i.e there are more cases of prostitutes under 16 than other kinds of child abuse) then prostitution should be seen as child abuse. It's complete nonsense of course and many other people here have already said so.

Not that I'm saying that the whole "child abuse is bad" thing is nonsense, but her reasoning is. See JBG's "mammal" post.
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Shes been throwing those viewpoints around the Scottish media ever since she came to anything like local prominence.

Jack McConnell takes most of what she says as Gospel as it gives him the female vote.

Im guessing stories about the Coatbridge/Airdrie fiasco that occurred when he was the local MP is conveniently forgotten.
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I once paid to have sex with a 56 year old hot milf blonde down at Hatton Cross (near Heathrow)*.


Surely I can't be a child abuser.






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I think the worst thing is that black men can now have sex with our proud aryan women without getting lynched by a crazed mob.






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"The most vulnerable and most damaged participants in this study
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l They were young. The mean age of first prostitution for this group was 13.8 years.
l They were problematic drug users. Once addicted, they continued to be involved
in prostitution to fund their habits."

Now this is not a complete picture of prostitution but if a bunch of kids are getting regularly abused then that might be important to some people.

For balance the report also says that there are many people who sell sex who are perfectly happy. But I don't think we can just say, oh well that's alright then and move on.
That doesn't add anything commie the most vulnerable are obviously going to be the 'worst' that doesn't mean the most vulnerable are representative in any meaningful way. You should obviously act to help them, but not act widely because of them.



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Once you accept that the media's perception of black girls in stereotypical ghettoised fashion is not a true you realise they're pretty hot.

BTW completely seperate to any of this has anyone else noticed the slightly alarming number of 'booty shaking' videos on youtube, and the fact that the people involved are sometimes considerably under the age of 18

i realise im going to get negrepped for this but the general back-forth videoblog flame wars are quite amusing. I don't doubt that there are horrible videos on youtube of people being unfairly setup in real life and shamed on youtube, but really the

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watch the videos, the comments along the lines of 'another girl ruined by the ****** culture had me rolling'


anyhoo not everyone is a fan, particularly one guy in southafrica


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Nobody click this link. I have no idea what it is but even clicking this link is a serious criminal offence under the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

If the link shows what it purports to show there would be no question of anything other than a custodial sentence.

The evidence from this forum would be perfectly admissible in court and you would go down.

This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen a forum user post.

It is maddness. Sheer madness.

As your resident Lawyer I have now advised you.
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Way to make sure everyone clicks on it dude.
If they think being on the sex offender's register is cool let them.

I feel morally obliged to shout out "don't walk into that big pit" when people are about to walk into a big pit. If after i've shouted it they jump in that's up to them.
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oh shut up shes 18, besides youtube take down anything remotely approaching bad. They've even limited videos to 10mins to stop piracy, so now you get people splitting everything into 10 min episodes
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That doesn't add anything commie the most vulnerable are obviously going to be the 'worst' that doesn't mean the most vulnerable are representative in any meaningful way. You should obviously act to help them, but not act widely because of them.
This very much depends on the context. If we found a new toxic in the water supply which "only" affected 1% of the population (but caused them serious health problems) then it would be entirely reasonable to take serious action to try and overhaul the whole water treatment system to try and fix the problem.
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oh shut up shes 18, besides youtube take down anything remotely approaching bad. They've even limited videos to 10mins to stop piracy, so now you get people splitting everything into 10 min episodes
you'll have to say "oh shut up your honour" but other than that I wish you the best of luck.
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This very much depends on the context. If we found a new toxic in the water supply which "only" affected 1% of the population (but caused them serious health problems) then it would be entirely reasonable to take serious action to try and overhaul the whole water treatment system to try and fix the problem.
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Nobody click this link. I have no idea what it is but even clicking this link is a serious criminal offence under the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

If the link shows what it purports to show there would be no question of anything other than a custodial sentence.
don't worry. it doesn't.
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for what misposting on an internet forum?
the following offences

1) breach of s. 1 The Protection of Children Act 1978 (as ammended s.45 2003 Sexual Offences Act)
2) Incitement to breach s. 1 The Protection of Children Act 1978 (as ammended s.45 2003 Sexual Offences Act)
3) Conspiracy to breach s. 1 The Protection of Children Act 1978 (as ammended s.45 2003 Sexual Offences Act)
4) Attempt to breach s. 1 The Protection of Children Act 1978 (as ammended s.45 2003 Sexual Offences Act)

but then I expect you knew that anyway given how 'confident' you seem.
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good for you yahwe, but shes 18. I realise that you need to wave your law-penis about but really, i never asked for your advice.

For horn, because he asked (and i won't be posting more because lets face it, its a fad and it'll get annoying)

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Clause 9 : Links to unsuitable material

Linking to Pornography or other highly undesirably items will lead to instant deletion and possible banning of IP from the Planetarion forums.

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yahwe, it doesn't look sexual and it certainly isn't pornographic.
You'd probably get the same watching cbbc.

EDIT - i'm talking about the initial link
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good for you yahwe, but shes 18. I realise that you need to wave your law-penis about but really, i never asked for your advice.
I tell you what milo, here's an interesting idea.

You just broke the law. For an offense taken very seriously by sentencing judges and the general public.

Why don't you keep trying to post snide comments in response to me?

That way, i'll sit here getting angrier and angrier. You'll get to feel smug.

Until we reach the point where I hate you so much that I report you to the police.

This'll be a fun game.
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Until we reach the point where I hate you so much that I report you to the police.

This'll be a fun game.

We tried that with you, they wouldn't have it. Go and troll someone else.
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If we have reached a point where posting links to attention whoring wiggers wiggling their bum can land you in prison then this is a golden age to be alive.

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If we have reached a point where posting links to attention whoring wiggers wiggling their bum can land you in prison then this is a golden age to be alive.

edit : I cannot believe I just signed up to youtube just to check that video. I hate you milo.

TBH i posted more about the reactions people were making to those videos than the vidoes themselves, but i needed context im guessing you also think shes been ruined by ****** culture?

i did post guitarkid tho!

EDIT/ and i knew this wasn't really enough to make a new thread about hence i hijacked my own thread, i was trying to be curteous!
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