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Unread 4 Jun 2003, 00:23   #1
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Question so why doesnt the us invade Congo?
they have massive human rights violations and genocide down there, so send troops. they really need your freedom and democracy right now.
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They're in africa.

Noone cares about africa.
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so why doesnt germany invade poland?

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so why doesnt germany invade poland?

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so why dont you say something usefull or just shut up?
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you know what other German thought it would be a good idea to invade random countries?
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thanks for completly missing my point.
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thanks for completly missing my point.
You know the answer already. No country in the history of the world has ever started a war in a situation where they do not stand to gain anything.
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maybe there still is someone who hasnt noticed these sickening lies about human right and democracy by the current us-goverment.
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maybe there still is someone who hasnt noticed these sickening lies about human right and democracy by the current us-goverment.
As opposed to who? China?

Just because you don't agree with some policy doesn't make it wrong.
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On the scale of 1-10, Congo's "may cause trouble elsewhere and/or destabilize the region" rating is -3.6
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Which Congo? This one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/afr...es/1076794.stm
or this one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/afr...es/1076399.stm ?

Congo is a cool name for a country.
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Which Congo? This one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/afr...es/1076794.stm
or this one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/afr...es/1076399.stm ?

Congo is a cool name for a country.
hmmm....I spose either would suffice
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you know what other German thought it would be a good idea to invade random countries?
Kaiser Wilhelm? I can't think of any others. I can think of an Austrian though.
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Kaiser Wilhelm? I can't think of any others. I can think of an Austrian though.
http://www.chronique.com/Library/Med...harlemagne.htm
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Re: so why doesnt the us invade Congo?
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they have massive human rights violations and genocide down there, so send troops. they really need your freedom and democracy right now.
Oh please don't encourage the government. And don't forget to mention the many other countries that also have the same problems, sometimes because the US helped put an anti-communist dictator in power. We could go on forever.
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Re: so why doesnt the us invade Congo?
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they have massive human rights violations and genocide down there, so send troops. they really need your freedom and democracy right now.
because it's easier to let aids wipe them out

wait...
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On the scale of 1-10, Congo's "may cause trouble elsewhere and/or destabilize the region" rating is -3.6
Is this true? Or is it "May cause trouble in a region which we give a **** about"?. African conflicts/crisis tend to spill over to neighbouring countries (refugees, ethnic tensions, economic destabalisation, etc).
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Is this true? Or is it "May cause trouble in a region which we give a **** about"?. African conflicts/crisis tend to spill over to neighbouring countries (refugees, ethnic tensions, economic destabalisation, etc).
I think it caused some trouble for all the people there who got massacred, and as you say, all the people in the surrounding areas who will get dragged into it. I am no expert on Africa at all, but I get the impression that many people are tied more to tribal loyalties than national ones. I am not saying that is a bad thing, but it makes trouble more likely to spread.
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Africa is irrelevant. It has no oil, and nothing of great value. Plus congo has forests. It's hard to fight in there
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Africa is irrelevant. It has no oil, and nothing of great value. Plus congo has forests. It's hard to fight in there
it has alot of resources, but no oil, that is true. and forests, heh, vietnam.
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As opposed to who? China?

Just because you don't agree with some policy doesn't make it wrong.
china at least doesnt pretend to give a damn about human rights (and, funny enough, i think china has send troops to congo to help the people a while ago)
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it makes you wonder why all the cool stuff is in all the poor countries.

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to compensate for the fact we have all the food.
that's what's creepy about it, the fact that all the food is somewhere different from all the cool stuff.
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Africa is irrelevant. It has no oil, and nothing of great value. Plus congo has forests. It's hard to fight in there
If Africa has no oil, what the hell is Shell doing in Nigeria?

i.e. Africa does have Oil, and Nigeria is the 10th largest Oil producer in the world (w/ reserves of 22bn barrells). Sure, this is no Middle East, but still.
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it makes you wonder why all the cool stuff is in all the poor countries.
Since the "poor countries" constitute the majority of the world, this is hardly surprising.

Also, I would hardly say the United States or Canada are resource poor. Even Europe still has sizable coal and oil deposits despite being resource whores the last couple of centuries.
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Since the "poor countries" constitute the majority of the world, this is hardly surprising.

Also, I would hardly say the United States or Canada are resource poor. Even Europe still has sizable coal and oil deposits despite being resource whores the last couple of centuries.
it was a pointless point of mine as the answer is quite clear anyway. ther reason the wast is so powerful is down to the industrial revolution and imperialism. If we had been nicer to them, the poor countries probably wouldn't be all that poor.
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and to think all this started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.
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and to think all this started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.
apparently the theory went that if there were two immensely powerful nations, then they would never have a war. There was one problem with this theory: It was Bollocks*


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If Africa wanted help from the west they shouldn't have told us to get lost. It's their own fault for not wanting to stick with Britain. They could have had schools, hospitals, and a Queen. Instead they decided to go it alone.
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i think you will find this congo was a colony of that tiny lil' country called Belgium...
(when i come to think of it, it wasn't difficult to tell us to get lost...)
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They could have had schools, hospitals, and a Queen.
I once read an obscure article that said that there actually were schools and hospitals in Africa. I dismissed it as communist propaganda though.
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I hear that even if America was going to invade Congo they wouldn't have had chance yet, so soon after Iraq.
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I once read an obscure article that said that there actually were schools and hospitals in Africa. I dismissed it as communist propaganda though.

I read an article that claimed there was such a place as Africa. I dismissed as subjective existentialism run amok however. On a secondary note I damn well hope there aren't any publicly funded hospitals in Africa. Last thing we need is more socialist propaganda about people "getting better" and "not being sick".
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Kaiser Wilhelm? I can't think of any others. I can think of an Austrian though.
speaking of Kaiser Wilhelm....I'm apparently related to him some how(not really anymore tho...since he's dead and all)...cousin of my great grandfather or something like that
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speaking of Kaiser Wilhelm....I'm apparently related to him some how(not really anymore tho...since he's dead and all)...cousin of my great grandfather or something like that
your great grandfather was Czar Nicholas II?
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your great grandfather was Czar Nicholas II?
no, I'm not exactly sure how we'd be related....but apparently we are
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no, I'm not exactly sure how we'd be related....but apparently we are
Would this be in a "my grandmother said so" kind of way or a "we actually are" kind of way?
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