I was hoping that more folk would post on this
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Originally Posted by Motti
People might be playing for many reasons, but for me - and many others as far as I know. A planet is made up because one, a few or a group of people you enjoy playing with makes you sign a planet.
Sometimes I play in a buddy pack, lately I have played as a random player. Either works fine for me, but I choose random when I expect to most likely not care to much about the round.
Once the gal is setup after shuffle, it will take some time to get to know who is in your galaxy, phone #s, alliances, and whatever else you spend time on building a galaxy that can work together in a somewhat coordinated motion.
If I understand you correctly, you like the idea of maybe a universe shuffle every 72 ticks or so, maybe less fequent.
This I am guesstimating is a suggestion to revamp PA, make it more fun for new players, etc, also known as solution to PA's problems.
My question to you is then, how is this helping new, or returning players?
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Originally Posted by Motti
I only see a random universe, that I most likely wouldn't bother playing in - I care for some form of coordinated action in a galaxy. Shuffle it around from time to time, and I really loose my incentive to interact with anyone that I don't know already. Why invest time in for example training a new player, getting to know a new pal in gal - if you after a while shuffle away?
Secondly, I see this as another suggestion that is ment to attract new players / help new or returning players - but in the end from my point of view just make you so much more reliant on a functionable alliance who got your back.
How do you get such an alliance, if you are constantly being shuffled around in the universe?
Thirdly, have you considered that if you are in a somehwat functional galaxy, the ETA advantage ingal REALLY helps save roids. Shuffle us around, and you can't really expect to get gal defence. Leaving it even easier to roid down someone - get past ally ETA and you are set for...
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Originally Posted by Motti
Being a bit critical,
This suggestion could potentionally make me a farm for two weeks at a time, with no chance to get away from it?
If you lengthen the period between shuffle, you could potentionally be in a bad place for a long time.
If you shorten the period, you loose motivation to even try and build a small community a galaxy might be.
Either way - I find it not so tempting to try.
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There has been changes made to PA, the best example I can think of is making stealers die after round 18 because there was a number of people Doing fleetcatches (myself included) as a round strategy rather than go roiding.
Some could see how this was detrimental to the game others said "You're Ruining my fun" In hindsight those fleetcatches would have ended many a players round.
Another example was Changing the game mechanics to ban out of tag / out gal defense... Some players had the attitude of get defense at all costs even have multi type planets that navigate around the game rules. (The ME ME ME attitude as I call it) Now that "support planets" have been made obsolete. Some of the objectors to the change couldn't see past how it was poluting the quality playerbase by having these inactive/not galmate material planets in other people's galaxies.
Depending on the community's attitude, however judging by the current exiling culture it is detrimental to the game.
Unless the player is well known, has influence in his ally (I.E. keep the gal off ally raids etc,) Required for a fence gal and reachable via sms etc etc.
They are usually exiled out of top gals.
Eventually you have pseudo private gals and then have the dross going into lower gals. Because one contender galaxy does so must the other galaxies do it (I call it Keeping up with the Jones Mentality)
Hence the current exiling culture thats in PA today.
I can understand how some folk have developed a trust in other players from previous rounds to BP each other, even to the point of using VNC programs like logmein to remote access each other computers and login their planets at peak (2-9am gametime by the time it reaches eta5) times to send ingal defense when they wouldn't normally be online. I would challenge the Multi hunter team on how they Could counteract VNC use as it would be undetectable to them. Best way around this is change game mechanics etc like total random. no galaxies etc.
(Thats a different Thread for discussion and I'm in now way at this time endorsing total random and / or no galaxies)
They Trust those players not to look up dodgy sites on their computer etc.
Afterall the actual player will be away from their computer / in their bed.
I can understand why some players might see this suggestion as a threat towards their cosy set up. (This isn't aimed directly at you Motti but more towards some your ally mates, and some others)
I'm going off in a tangent, Ah yes it comes back towards players attitudes.
Personally I like to train new players when they ask me for help and have even done tick plans (round starting strategies like fi/co eta or bs/cr rush being favourites) for more experienced players because I would like to see more players playing the game and enjoying it....And Yes I still enjoy PA.
Some players I know Cant be arsed in doing this I.E. It isn't my role to do this.
Other players see noobs/returning/shite etc as opportunities to exploit I.E. can you roid this noob down for me so its a cheaper exile and gets you easy roids etc.
The only way I can see on how to make New players (and returning players etc)
Valuable is that they are needed out of nessesity...
When A player gets incoming the ally is the first line of defense and the galaxy is the last line of defense.
What happens when you can't get ally def to cover? You seek ingal defense.
and I've seen many panic / Emo from players who don't like being roided, just enough that they might see other players like new/returning/<Insert_other_class> valuable enough to invest the time so they become another source of defense. Mainly because they can't effectively Build a pseudo private galaxy like having shuffles would counter...hence nessesity.
Personally I would like to see a split of public and private gals having a stagger in favour of public gals being bigger... like the first Xmas round.
However this suggestion thread is about having shuffles.
I think this would add more dynamics to galaxy politics like the pressure to get along out of nessesity for an extra source of defense.
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