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Sultan of Squeak
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Top of the world, ma!
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Xans rule!
I was sector scanning the top planets, because I was curious what the top players thought a good Terran fleet would be, so I could copy it. However, I got quite a surprise - ALL of the top seven planets are Xan! Check it out:
Sector Scan Report on 10:8:18 (The Northern Territories) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:40 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name The Northern Territories Leader The Countless Hordes
Score 3318191 Metal 159756
Crystal 240975 Eonium 4254580
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 565 Crystal Asteroids 433
Eonium Asteroids 184 Unknown Asteroids 10
Fleet Size 300 PDS Size 0
Sector Scan Report on 41:10:9 (bunnyworld) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:41 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name bunnyworld Leader cypher
Score 3250400 Metal 35
Crystal 248425 Eonium 4331920
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 509 Crystal Asteroids 379
Eonium Asteroids 175 Unknown Asteroids 21
Fleet Size 258 PDS Size 0
Sector Scan Report on 12:3:11 (Goliath) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:41 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name Goliath Leader Dav|d
Score 3140514 Metal 778301
Crystal 642144 Eonium 4758382
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 481 Crystal Asteroids 398
Eonium Asteroids 194 Unknown Asteroids 13
Fleet Size 453 PDS Size 0
Sector Scan Report on 13:7:1 (Songoku) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:42 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name Songoku Leader The Super Sayian
Score 2951316 Metal 737
Crystal 442613 Eonium 4086497
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 429 Crystal Asteroids 357
Eonium Asteroids 152 Unknown Asteroids 30
Fleet Size 513 PDS Size 0
Sector Scan Report on 41:9:7 (la Guardia de Plato) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:43 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name la Guardia de Plato Leader Destructor
Score 2906712 Metal 1402
Crystal 85150 Eonium 3907478
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 645 Crystal Asteroids 477
Eonium Asteroids 203 Unknown Asteroids 22
Fleet Size 444 PDS Size 0
Sector Scan Report on 15:6:13 (Porcelain Dolls Planet) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:43 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name Porcelain Dolls Planet Leader HappyAllice
Score 2803680 Metal 592
Crystal 331994 Eonium 3907186
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 429 Crystal Asteroids 380
Eonium Asteroids 147 Unknown Asteroids 24
Fleet Size 781 PDS Size 0
Sector Scan Report on 40:10:2 (Useless_Painkiller) [Xandathrii] [11/06/2003 11:44 GMT] (Online)
Planet Name Useless_Painkiller Leader Painless_userKiller
Score 2701687 Metal 678
Crystal 839 Eonium 3957200
Constructions 27 Research 24
Metal Asteroids 457 Crystal Asteroids 401
Eonium Asteroids 154 Unknown Asteroids 21
Fleet Size 300 PDS Size 0
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11 Jun 2003, 13:21
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pe0n
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kindom of the Netherlands
Posts: 1,347
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I'm not surprised.
1. It's a random universe;
2. It's free (so plenty of escorts available);
3. They ignored 1+2 and decided to upgrade xans.
Xans weakened by a full tech tree? Perhaps a bit. But that never kept xans from keeping top positions once they got them in earlier rounds. An advantage is they can build a fleet soon when they come out of protection still giving them a headstart.
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round 6 noob
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round 8 noob: rank 4.112 7:2:3 - TFD member
round 9 rank 941 23:1:9 - TFD HC
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round 10: rank unknown (was #1 for a while) 5:2:5 - Vengeance pe0n
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round 11: rank 138 8:8:4 - VsN member
round 12: rank 515 - VGN 'special attack officer' -> jumped ship to Rock
round 13: rank 85: NoS
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11 Jun 2003, 14:17
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Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,991
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True Gerbie.
And taking a glance at nightly attacks the Xandathrii targets are the ones left unpicked or the ones picked last with *moan*.
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11 Jun 2003, 14:19
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Commodore
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,176
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Xans have proven time and time again that no matter how much you nerf them, they are always quite succesful.
Remember though, its still reletively early enough in the round (i hope) for the race composition to change... 
Anyway, this re-enforces my point - choosing a race has 0 impact on whether you win or not - its the plethora of lemmings, your activity, luck and most importantly alliance (incl BG) that determine whether you win. There has been no strategy in this game since.... R6 (perhaps R7 with new pods).
sniff 
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11 Jun 2003, 14:25
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pe0n
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kindom of the Netherlands
Posts: 1,347
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I'm a noob at xan and still I am one of the top players in my gal. (Ok, also because I have a good alliance backing me up.)
My peacekeepers own!
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round 5 noob
round 6 noob
round 7 noob: rank 6.198 25:20:25 - VoC member
round 8 noob: rank 4.112 7:2:3 - TFD member
round 9 rank 941 23:1:9 - TFD HC
round 9.5 rank 860 22:7:3 - TFD HC
round 10: rank unknown (was #1 for a while) 5:2:5 - Vengeance pe0n
round 10.5: rank 683 19:10:2 - VGN member
round 11: rank 138 8:8:4 - VsN member
round 12: rank 515 - VGN 'special attack officer' -> jumped ship to Rock
round 13: rank 85: NoS
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11 Jun 2003, 14:27
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No, really...
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Out of my mind
Posts: 399
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tietäjä
True Gerbie.
And taking a glance at nightly attacks the Xandathrii targets are the ones left unpicked or the ones picked last with *moan*.
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I love xand targets gimme gimme
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11 Jun 2003, 14:28
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ensign forever
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 326
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Also cath were impopular in this random round which makes the Xan world a lot easier cause cath can attack them with great ease.
Clealry there is a need for more pegasi, cutters and beetles to stop this Xan rout 
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11 Jun 2003, 14:30
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p a r r a c i d a
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: #titans
Posts: 511
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gerbie
My peacekeepers own!
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did you actually just say that?
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11 Jun 2003, 14:36
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ensign forever
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 326
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cicada
did you actually just say that?
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Worse, he beleives it too !!
hAl
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11 Jun 2003, 14:37
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Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,991
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Quote:
Originally posted by Al_zz
Also cath were impopular in this random round which makes the Xan world a lot easier cause cath can attack them with great ease.
Clealry there is a need for more pegasi, cutters and beetles to stop this Xan rout
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Being A Cath even, I favor terran targets over Xan targets. Why, it may be my fleet composition. I just don't have enough beetles to freeze a fighter-only fleet (well, I've never spotted a small xand with as many roids as the medium terrans I can attack with ease, if you know my point).
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11 Jun 2003, 14:41
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Commodore
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,176
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Originally posted by Al_zz
Worse, he beleives it too !!
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well, they ARE effective agains Terrans
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11 Jun 2003, 14:41
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pe0n
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kindom of the Netherlands
Posts: 1,347
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cicada
did you actually just say that?
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Hehe. I built 3 of them. They are slow but actually very good. Great armor and firepower. If only a cath had those in stead of avengers, the universe would be different.
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round 5 noob
round 6 noob
round 7 noob: rank 6.198 25:20:25 - VoC member
round 8 noob: rank 4.112 7:2:3 - TFD member
round 9 rank 941 23:1:9 - TFD HC
round 9.5 rank 860 22:7:3 - TFD HC
round 10: rank unknown (was #1 for a while) 5:2:5 - Vengeance pe0n
round 10.5: rank 683 19:10:2 - VGN member
round 11: rank 138 8:8:4 - VsN member
round 12: rank 515 - VGN 'special attack officer' -> jumped ship to Rock
round 13: rank 85: NoS
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11 Jun 2003, 14:42
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Commodore
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,176
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tietäjä
Being A Cath even, I favor terran targets over Xan targets. Why, it may be my fleet composition. I just don't have enough beetles to freeze a fighter-only fleet (well, I've never spotted a small xand with as many roids as the medium terrans I can attack with ease, if you know my point).
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If not for Chimera - Terrans are joy!
not many of them build dragons, so that's good.
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11 Jun 2003, 14:43
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¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Sept 2057
Posts: 1,813
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Any smart xand can triple the effective size of their roiding fleet. If you get away with that even semi-regularly it's quite a nice boost to your roid income.
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11 Jun 2003, 15:02
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Miles Teg
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Dom City
Posts: 5,192
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orions/pegs it is
(and wyverns to stop the sucky caths)
havent seen much caths arround with a CR fleet tbh, they are just too easy to stop.
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11 Jun 2003, 15:31
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ensign forever
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 326
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Quote:
Originally posted by Knight Theamion
orions/pegs it is
(and wyverns to stop the sucky caths)
havent seen much caths arround with a CR fleet tbh, they are just too easy to stop.
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Probably beetles, roaches and BW's only fleet will be most effective. Probably in a ratio 10:7:4 in ships numbers. Off course tarants would be the better option if you don't need the have a fast anti DE def fleet.
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11 Jun 2003, 15:31
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Bored
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: A Persistant Universe
Posts: 1,583
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Quote:
Originally posted by xtothez
Any smart xand can triple the effective size of their roiding fleet. If you get away with that even semi-regularly it's quite a nice boost to your roid income.
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Maybe he could defend his alliance every now and again too
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11 Jun 2003, 16:00
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¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Sept 2057
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Quote:
Originally posted by K-W
Maybe he could defend his alliance every now and again too :)
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Who does that these days? :)
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in my sig i write down all my previous co-ords and alliance positions as if they matter because I'm not important enough to be remembered by nickname alone.
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11 Jun 2003, 17:05
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Condemned to RP
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 1,654
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The current xan fleets I am seeing sadden me.
The entire idea of xan has been reduced to 1 million fighters and 30 vultures. People don't know how to build a normal fleet anymore, all the easier for me ofcourse because my beetles get to own everyone know.
Maybe you should all consider that the next time you get 3k FI and 100 vults incomming you can get it covered by having spiders send at you in a one tick interval.
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11 Jun 2003, 17:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 482
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Originally posted by ParraCida
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DYB will extract a heavy price from ur galaxy for that, u will see soon! Check ur galaxy status (left hand column 4th option down) after the next tick!!
And ur MOC and MOW can blame U 
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11 Jun 2003, 18:04
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Condemned to RP
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: The Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally posted by sword
DYB will extract a heavy price from ur galaxy for that, u will see soon! Check ur galaxy status (left hand column 4th option down) after the next tick!!
And ur MOC and MOW can blame U
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Wondered wich one of you freaks it was 
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11 Jun 2003, 18:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 482
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
Wondered wich one of you freaks it was
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You see now?
IT HAS BEGUN
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12 Jun 2003, 04:06
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Sex God
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Norway
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Quote:
Originally posted by sword
You see now?
IT HAS BEGUN
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AND NOW IT HAS ENDED pheew
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12 Jun 2003, 11:17
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Playing Speedrounds
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: The Netherlands
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With a Xan you can't tell the differnce between a real fleet coming or a fake.. So you can farm 3 planets at the time... This way you can get top10 really quick...
In this post I mean farming as in LEGAL(just attack real planets) and illegal(attack planets you, or "a friend" controls)
Let's just hope most do it legal \0/
Ofc farming with Terran will get discovered 10 times quicker, then a xan attacking
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12 Jun 2003, 12:22
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Over the moon
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Deeeeenmark
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For the #1 planet atm, the round has been sending 100 vultures > getting 10 random planets flack...
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Zik: 3rd(r30), 4th(r52), 7th(r27), 9th(r26), 31st(r51)
Ter: 3rd(r50), 4th(r53), 4th(r37), 5th(r31) 7th (r58)
Xan: 3rd(r36), 40th(r57) 54th(r33), 104th(r29)
Cat: 8th (r54), 9th(r48), 12th (r55), 20th(r32), 77th(r23), 103rd(r38), 150th(r34), 152nd(r24),
Etd: 14th(r28)
Those damn emp races..
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12 Jun 2003, 12:47
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p a r r a c i d a
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lord_Thunderball
With a Xan you can't tell the differnce between a real fleet coming or a fake.. So you can farm 3 planets at the time... This way you can get top10 really quick...
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fkers always seem to spot my fake
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