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Unread 13 Mar 2003, 02:33   #1
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Serbian Prime Minister Assassinated

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe...ing/index.html

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BELGRADE, Serbia (CNN) -- Serbia's government says the assassination of Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic was carried out by members of an organized crime group.

"This criminal act is a clear attempt to put an end to the development and democratization of Serbia and plunge it into isolation once again and was carried out by those who have been trying over the past few years to do so through various murders and assassinations," the government said in an official statement.

Officials are speculating that the shooting could be linked to a crime wave in the country and the government's efforts to stamp out organized crime.
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everyone who knows this will increase the instability in the area possibly leading into another forumer-yugosslavia conflict please raise your hands
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everyone who knows this will increase the instability in the area possibly leading into another forumer-yugosslavia conflict please raise your hands
It's the Balkans, what did you expect?
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Truly sad, he sounded like a good politician. Something both the US and the Uk are in desperate need of.
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Unread 13 Mar 2003, 09:42   #7
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Meh thinks he raises his hands. But it's sad for that little man i think
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this might cause a lot of trouble :/
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For some reason i get nervous when political figures are murdered in Belgrade...
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For some reason i get nervous when political figures are murdered in Belgrade...
But not as nervous as if they are murdered in sarajevo?
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For some reason i get nervous when political figures are murdered in Belgrade...

Me too.
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For some reason i get nervous when political figures are murdered in Belgrade...
at least there is no reason to invade france and belgium this time
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at least there is no reason to invade france and belgium this time
I'm sure we can find one somewhere.
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I'm sure we can find one somewhere.
they are the only countries in europe fully on our side atm, so that doesnt make that much sence to me as a german.
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that doesnt make that much sence to me as a german.
here your argument falls down
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Unhappy indeed it's sad

He looked like one of the people who could keep democracy in the region, and he was an experienced politician - something the job now lacks. And it is true that people being shot in Balkan capitals hasn't had good consequences in the past...
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He looked like one of the people who could keep democracy in the region, and he was an experienced politician - something the job now lacks. And it is true that people being shot in Balkan capitals hasn't had good consequences in the past...
not to forget about the fact that the people in serbia loved him (except those in the mafia ofc)
they dont have any replacement for him, and that will cause some trouble
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absolutely

i have relatives (albeit quite far ones) in Belgrade, and am Serbian Orthodox myself, so there's a large Serbian community that i'm involved with - we're all quite shocked really; we have to hope that no nationalist idiots get into powerful positions at this rather precarious time.
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not to forget about the fact that the people in serbia loved him
I'm not too sure if that's true.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1086035.stm
"Indeed a recent poll showed that, despite his current political standing, he was only the 11th most popular politician in the country."

Besides, despite the whitewashing of his character that's inevitably going on now, he was a nationalist hawk who is almost certainly as "racist" (in a sense) than the likes of Milosevic. Despite this, he still managed to be a pro-NATO shill.

But he's dead now, so let's all just stand around lavisishing praise on him.
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But he's dead now, so let's all just stand around lavisishing praise on him.
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Besides, despite the whitewashing of his character that's inevitably going on now, he was a nationalist hawk who is almost certainly as "racist" (in a sense) than the likes of Milosevic. Despite this, he still managed to be a pro-NATO shill.
Hahaha
He was one of the more soft ones. Less nationalist, and i should imagine considerably less "racist" than others 'on offer'.
But if you mean he was racist in the way that he wanted to hold onto and support Kosovo (which the western media is now treating as an albanian province) and its serbian population, i'd challenge you to find someone in that area who isn't 'racist' in a similar way.
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He was one of the more soft ones. Less nationalist, and i should imagine considerably less "racist" than others 'on offer'.
No I actually meant in the sense of supporting people like Arkan. Kosovo should have been part of Serbia though, and NATO intervention should have been opposed (obviously). But anyway, he was the worst of both possible worlds.

But anyway, people like him and Vuk Draskovic were probably worse than Milosevic.
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I'm just sitting here wondering if the name Archduke Franz Ferdinand rings a bell with anyone, and if it does, isn't it a coincidence that this assassination comes, once again, at a time of fraid intra-european relations....
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No I actually meant in the sense of supporting people like Arkan. Kosovo should have been part of Serbia though, and NATO intervention should have been opposed (obviously). But anyway, he was the worst of both possible worlds.

But anyway, people like him and Vuk Draskovic were probably worse than Milosevic.
Vuk is definitely an extreme nationalist, but i'm not sure you could say he's worse than Milosevic, and i don't think Djindjic touched near either of them (in political beliefs - he worked with Vuk to get Milosevic out of power ofc). And as for the business with Arkan, i think he was more reluctant to hand him over not because he sympathised with him, but because a lot of the nationalist serbs did.
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