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Unread 18 Mar 2004, 13:00   #1
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[Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

this is a serious petition ladies
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

well. i better.

the constant acting after every single little contact with another player pisses me off
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

Try italian football.

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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

The italians are worse than the spanish (who are atrocious enough). But the portuguese are worse than either.

The worst is still the Argentinians
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

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The italians are worse than the spanish (who are atrocious enough). But the portuguese are worse than either.

The worst is still the Argentinians
so it's:
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Well, Italians are on top of my list.
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The italians are worse than the spanish (who are atrocious enough). But the portuguese are worse than either.

The worst is still the Argentinians
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

Argentinians dont play football. Its a mutated version of the sport they play that barely resembles the beautiful game any more
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

portoguese, spanish. italian and argentinen know at least to deal with the ball, compared to english and german players.
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portoguese, spanish. italian and argentinen know at least to deal with the ball, compared to english and german players.
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Yeah, cos that David Beckham? Can't play football to save his life.
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Yeah, cos that David Beckham? Can't play football to save his life.
true, i mean anyone can be england captain and play for real madrid these days

Ask yourself who the most skillful player at sunderland is
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

i wish they removed the 3rd world football team like malta, liechtenstein, china etc.
what i hate most is the matches vs crap countries that are always horrible to see, but you keep watching them anyway because you feel like you have to....(well i feel that way when holland is playing anyway)
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true, i mean anyone can be england captain and play for real madrid these days

Has anyone else actually watched him play? I know the papers seem to say he's great and works hard and all but whenever I watch them play he just pales in comparison to the skill of figo, zidane (well who doesn't in this case), raul or ronaldo.

If you want to compare skill levels compare the top 30 players from Spain, Argentina, Brazil, France, Italy and England. Guess who comes out on top? (Hint: it's not the team containing emile heskey.)
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If you want to compare skill levels compare the top 30 players from Spain, Argentina, Brazil, France, Italy and England. Guess who comes out on top? (Hint: it's not the team containing emile heskey.)
i think all the nations u mentioned except italy are above england in the fifa rankings anyways
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yeah because skill is all that matters am i rite
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i think all the nations u mentioned except italy are above england in the fifa rankings anyways

The Fifa rankings are for shit. I think we were ranked 15th after the world cup or some such drivel. 15th best side in the world? Gary Doherty plays up front!
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yeah because skill is all that matters am i rite

Well if we are talking about skill alone I'm going to go with erm, yes.

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oh and we're the smallest country by far, of all countries in top20.
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The Fifa rankings are for shit. I think we were ranked 15th after the world cup or some such drivel. 15th best side in the world? Gary Doherty plays up front!
nah, i think its accurate enough to be honest. I wouldnt say there were 15 sides clearly better than Ireland. I would have to question Iran being 24th in the world or something like that Mexico are 5th too which i'm not too sure about either but then i cant say i have seen a great deal or iran or mexico In the main i think its near enough.
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If every single other worthwhile league in the world plays in a different way from the way you do, perhaps it isnt actually all of them who are at fault?
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

Fifa should get the same system tennis and icehockey have;

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nah, i think its accurate enough to be honest.

They are rubbish. Wales are down in 65th with teams like Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and even Scotland above us. I also don't consider Denmark, USA or Cameroon as top 15 teams.
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

The fifa rankings are worthless. What is Mexico doing on #5? And why is Costa Rica on #18?

btw I think the only matches worth staying home for would be between the top 15 on that list, minus Mexico, Italy (just for being boring), USA and Cameroon, plus Portugal (wich for some reason is ranked 17th).
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Staying home to watch. Most stadiums are too far away :s
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

everyone saying mexico shouldn't be in top10 has never seen that team play, obviously.
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Yeah, cos that David Beckham? Can't play football to save his life.
he has probably the best shooting technique on this planet. however that doesnt mean that he is a god in dealing with the ball.

i agree that db belongs to the best players in england, technique wise, however this doesnt make my statemant wrong.
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There's a theory that I read that the reason that English and German and Scottish players aren't as skillful (on the whole) as Brazilians, or Spaniards, or Italians, is that we have a worse climate, so there isn't the same culture of knocking the ball about in the street (or whatever).
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There's a theory that I read that the reason that English and German and Scottish players aren't as skillful (on the whole) as Brazilians, or Spaniards, or Italians, is that we have a worse climate, so there isn't the same culture of knocking the ball about in the street (or whatever).

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There's a theory that I read that the reason that English and German and Scottish players aren't as skillful (on the whole) as Brazilians, or Spaniards, or Italians, is that we have a worse climate, so there isn't the same culture of knocking the ball about in the street (or whatever).
Thats bollocks. I played football on my street every single night when i came home from school. On top of that i had training sessions twice a week and 1 or 2 games a week.

I think its beach football that does it for them .
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

or that we're taught the rules of football rather than some football-figure skating hybrid?

I must say im dead impressed by the "dying swan" school of football in continental europe and south america
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Re: [Football] Petition to remove all spanish and portugese teams

For those deriding David Beckham playing for real madrid with regards to 'paling' against zidane and figo etc, I believe he has more assists than them put together atm.

Showboating does not create goals or score them, it only just get's you noticed more.

I never thought I'd see the day I'd be defending david beckham but his passing especially long ranged is the best in that real madrid midfield and gives them that option they lacked of humping the ball upfield when they can't play through the team they are up against.
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There's a theory that I read that the reason that English and German and Scottish players aren't as skillful (on the whole) as Brazilians, or Spaniards, or Italians, is that we have a worse climate, so there isn't the same culture of knocking the ball about in the street (or whatever).
I once heard someone say the Argentenians / Brazilians / etc have a good tradition of skillful play because when British sailors (who introduced the game to a lot of other countries) they were larger (frame wise) than the Brazilians, and so used to rely on strength / stature to win games. The Brazilians (and their ilk) had to develop a quick, skillful game (because they were only little, because of poor diet, etc).

As diets improved generally, the Brazilians no-longer have any size handicap and still have the tradition of skillful play.

That's probably bollocks though.
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