Nodrog

[Radical Edward]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
That underfunding will become more acute in the private sector, as nodrog is not a competitive industry.

only because there is no creative input from the private sector. Once we start seling off bits of Nodrog to foreign firms, then you will see the advantage

[MrL_JaKiri]

Delocalising nodrog will not help the employment levels of this country, and if not correctly done will see a drastic fall in the levels of performance; in addition, the consumers will be confused by the change, which will most likely be underexplained and unstandardised.

Nodrog deserves the current monopoly.

[Radical Edward]

Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
Our decision here should be based solely on how to get that investment in; in the long term, that can only come from government.

A nationalised Nodrog would suffer even more stagnation than it is now. Nodrog needs privatising in order fo competitive industries to come up with novel ways to exploit this invaluable resource.

[MrL_JaKiri]

People don't CHOOSE whether to use nodrog or not; how many times must I say that it's not a competitive industry.

The closest comparison would be the trains; will the same mess be made with the regionalising, ensuring that in a field with minimal competition already, this is decreased further?

[Radical Edward]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Delocalising nodrog will not help the employment levels of this country, and if not correctly done will see a drastic fall in the levels of performance; in addition, the consumers will be confused by the change, which will most likely be underexplained and unstandardised.

Nodrog deserves the current monopoly.

It is all about creating wealth, not redistributing it. Unemployment might rise in the short term, but a well planned Nodrog privatisation strategy will benefit us all in the long run.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Radical Edward
It is all about creating wealth, not redistributing it. Unemployment might rise in the short term, but a well planned Nodrog privatisation strategy will benefit us all in the long run.

It's not though; EDS is one of the most dire companies known to man, and the whole PPP system is inherently flawed.

[Radical Edward]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
People don't CHOOSE whether to use nodrog or not; how many times must I say that it's not a competitive industry.

The closest comparison would be the trains; will the same mess be made with the regionalising, ensuring that in a field with minimal competition already, this is decreased further?

but by contracting out the support industries, and a more dynamic leadership, Nodrog can only improve.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Radical Edward
but by contracting out the support industries, and a more dynamic leadership, Nodrog can only improve.

Dynamic?

That's an ironic term to use for a leadership that has no public account for its actions. Were things to go drastically wrong with the running of nodrog, the people in charge would be forced to resign were they civil servants or elected officials. When we're dealing with privately owned systems, this is not the case.

[queball]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
People don't CHOOSE whether to use nodrog or not; how many times must I say that it's not a competitive industry.

The closest comparison would be the trains; will the same mess be made with the regionalising, ensuring that in a field with minimal competition already, this is decreased further?

Of course people choose. With the trains, people can decide to take another form of transport, or to not travel at all. You can take any aspect of nodrog and find it elsewhere.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by queball
Of course people choose. With the trains, people can decide to take another form of transport, or to not travel at all. You can take any aspect of nodrog and find it elsewhere.

But that's Trains vs Anything else

It's not competition between the rail companies, which is what the current set up was meant to foster; similarly, there will not be competition between nodrogs.

[Cmdr_Cyrax]

nodrog is a ****e ****


:ninja:

[acropolis]

I think the bottom line is that the political leadership is the problem. Normally giving a nodrog monopoly to a private industry to hold over the people would clearly be detrimental to the society as a whole, being basically a parasitic middleman between the people and the Nodrog.

But as things stand now with the leadership, whichever party is in control will just appoint their cronies to control the nodrog and no one is any better off (except the sycophants). At least with a private contract the government gets some additional revenue.

[MrL_JaKiri]

It shouldn't be a private nodrog AT ALL though

[queball]

Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
This is all about political will and recognising long-term societal benefit. It may be hard for a government to buy back Nodrog in the short term, but the eventual rewards in increased service will be a rich bounty, for all, and the government will be certainly rewarded electorally.

The long-term social benefit is represented by the market value of a resource. Only a private system considers this. Private hands have maintained land and business throughout history. Public hands have plundered and destroyed hospitals, schools, everything.

In any case, vital services like Nodrog should not be in the hands of private capital. They are vital national resources that only belong in the hands of the state, and the nation.

Toilet paper is essential. I could do without Nodrog if I had to.

[acropolis]

Originally posted by queball

Toilet paper is essential. I could do without Nodrog if I had to.

speaking of which, i'd like to take a moment of silence for the plight of so many iraqis,

whose access to nodrog these past four or five months has been spotty at best.

and now back to your regularly scheduled debate.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by Radical Edward
It is all about creating wealth, not redistributing it. Unemployment might rise in the short term, but a well planned Nodrog privatisation strategy will benefit us all in the long run.

That's what Thatcher said, and look where we are now.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by queball
The long-term social benefit is represented by the market value of a resource. Only a private system considers this. Private hands have maintained land and business throughout history. Public hands have plundered and destroyed hospitals, schools, everything.

New-Right revisionist claptrap.

Originally posted by queball
Toilet paper is essential. I could do without Nodrog if I had to.

Well, I daresay to fat, self-indulgent middle-class people like yourself, Nodrog is not an essential service, but there are many poor, disabled and elderly people out there that consider Nodrog to be a vital resource.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Oh please, there isn't any political impetus for drastic change of this kind whilst the blairites are unthreatened politically. Changes must be wrought!

Blair will only respond to what comes onto the high political agenda, and in a year or so, Nodrog could be as big an issue as asylum or health.

At same point in the future the doctrine of the total infalibility of the market will collapse anyway. To say that everything should be privatised is just as ridiculous as saying that everything should be nationalised. When that sea-change happens, Nodrog will almost certainly come back into public ownership; the privatisation of Nodrog was only a close run thing to begin with. It is not too far-fetched to consider a that even a more One-Nation Tory party would eventually renationalise Nodrog, in the long-term.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by Toccata & Fugue
(4) To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of
Nodrog and the most equitable distribution thereof that may
be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of nodrog.

-Clause 4

The old Clause 4.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
It is not too far-fetched to consider a that even a more One-Nation Tory party would eventually renationalise Nodrog, in the long-term.

That's a long term issue, there are many problems with nodrog in the current time; access to nodrog is hideously reduced and inefficient when it is obtained. To bank on the tories becoming both a serious political force and one in support of renationalisation is a pipe dream of the most hideous kind.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by acropolis
whose access to nodrog these past four or five months has been spotty at best.

Well, it would be ridiculous to believe that Nodrog could be restored to regular service within such a short period. The infrastructure need sto be restored, and in some places totally rebuilt.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
To bank on the tories becoming both a serious political force and one in support of renationalisation is a pipe dream of the most hideous kind.

As I said, it's a long term possibility, that is likely to be uneccesary anyway; some action will have to be taken before the next election.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by Toccata & Fugue
It's still a worthy goal.

It's inflexible nonsense that was practically outdated even when it was concieved.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
As I said, it's a long term possibility, that is likely to be uneccesary anyway; some action will have to be taken before the next election.

There's too little time to complete such a move before the next election comes along, and I doubt Blair will be keen to perform such an action which will have no interim benefits in case the backlash from the party's many failings causes them to lose the election; does he really want the Tories or the Lib Dems to take the credit for the renovation of Nodrog?

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
There's too little time to complete such a move before the next election comes along,

I'm not saying that there will be time for a total plan of what to do with Nodrog, but some action will have to be undertaken to stabilise the situation.

Nodrog is deteriorating constantly, and to believe that the situation won't reach a head before the election (Possibly three years away) is folly.

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
and I doubt Blair will be keen to perform such an action which will have no interim benefits in case the backlash from the party's many failings causes them to lose the election; does he really want the Tories or the Lib Dems to take the credit for the renovation of Nodrog?

You said Labour was essentially the only viable political force a the moment.

Blair and everyone else knows he's going to win the next election, and he has all the luxury in policy terms that that affords. The only constraints are based on time and resources.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by Toccata & Fugue
I object to your and MrL_JaKiri's use of Nodrog as a political football.

Deciding the future of Nodrog is vital to all our interests, and the political will to implement the neccesary measures will have to be total and solid.

Originally posted by Toccata & Fugue
My poloicy ensures that Nodrog is protected for use by the working class without being expoloited by political or coporate interests.

It is ridiculous to believe that Nodrog being nationalised in itself brings any particular benefit to the poorer sections of society; all that results is more accountability and control over the actions of the Nodrog as a whole.

The only benefits for a nationlised Nodrog are based on pragmatic service benefits. However, a continued commitment to nationalising all Nodrogs on Socialist grounds is both misguided in terms of how to best achieve equality and how to achieve quality in Nodrog, for the public.

[MrL_JaKiri]

I am an outsider looking in; it may not be as clear to Blair, especially given the recent criticism of his inner circle and the resignation of Dear Alister, the freedom in which he has to operate; don't forget, additionally, the many labour losses in the local elections in the past year; the political animal is frequently paranoid, and much has happened to reinforce this tendency.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
I am an outsider looking in; it may not be as clear to Blair, especially given the recent criticism of his inner circle and the resignation of Dear Alister, the freedom in which he has to operate; don't forget, additionally, the many labour losses in the local elections in the past year; the political animal is frequently paranoid, and much has happened to reinforce this tendency.

Oh, that's just madness! Blair knows that local elections mean nothing, and that IDS is no threat.

It would be unrealistic to suggest otherwise.

[MrL_JaKiri]

You're neglecting to consider internal party politics; this is a more realistic source of opposition than IDS or that Ginger Taffy.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Toccata & Fugue
That's Alastair. His resignation only affects how the policeis relating to Nodrog would be presented.

However, it's another of Blair's Inner Circle that has been forced out for failure; how long before the knife is at Our Dear Leader's neck?

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
You're neglecting to consider internal party politics; this is a more realistic source of opposition than IDS or that Ginger Taffy.

I see. And who exactly has either the stature, the motive, the experience or the will to cause anything more than a slight annoyance to Blair?

The party is probably mroe internally clement than at any point in it's history. The situation (let alone the structures neccesary for some sort of coup) is simply not there.

[I Am Grimble]

In before nodrog

[W]

In before move to rp

[Phang]

Originally posted by Cmdr_Cyrax
nodrog is a ****e ****


:ninja:

now, i google searched this, and came up with

http://www.geocities.com/nodrogfs/to...TPE_GALAXY.txt


heh.

[Mong]

After reading a few posts that Nod is in, I just wish to reaffirm my general appreciation of Nodrog.

M.

[Recon]

Googlism for: nodrog

nodrog is ready to do it too
nodrog is
nodrog is a ****e ****
nodrog is abusing himself or herself
nodrog is so taken by ms
nodrog is the man
nodrog is a great pitcher

3rd one made me chuckle

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Recon
Googlism for: nodrog

nodrog is ready to do it too
nodrog is
nodrog is a ****e ****
nodrog is abusing himself or herself
nodrog is so taken by ms
nodrog is the man
nodrog is a great pitcher

3rd one made me chuckle

Why did you bump this thread to say something that was already in the thread?

[Recon]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Why did you bump this thread to say something that was already in the thread?

a) bothered

b) to show my appreciation for Nod

c) bothered

d) why did you reply to my bumping of this thread just to say that something i said had already been said earlier

e) bothered

f) i believe in a thing called love

g) bothered

h) what you really meant to say was 'why don't i get MrL_JaKiri threads made up, i'm hip, i'm cool, i'm down with the kids'

i) bothered

j) twat

[MrL_JaKiri]

a. What?

b. <3 should be expressed by singular feelings!

c. What?

d. Because bumping is bad.

e. What?

f. What?

g. What?

h. What?

i. What?

j. Be civil please.

[Pyr0 MK III]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Nodrog should be deprivatised.

[Mong]

After reading some excellent postings by Nodrog, I wish to reitterate my overwhelming approval of him.

M.

[djbass]

Nodrog was better as a gimmick.

=[DJ Bass]=