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19 Nov 2017, 10:59
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#51
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Cardinal and cheating. ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif) cba to find my own quote.
Go take a peek on Ults def accounts next. ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif) I wouldnt be suprised... ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Astatores are all multis. Agar3s even made the effort to create separate WhatsApp and slack accounts... Adds, berten, guppie, Advantix etc. actually aren't real persons. They're all multis of Agar3s
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19 Nov 2017, 11:33
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#52
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Cardinal and cheating. ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif) cba to find my own quote.
Go take a peek on Ults def accounts next. ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif) I wouldnt be suprised... ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
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The butthurt is strong with this one
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19 Nov 2017, 13:15
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#53
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Dorf
Astatores are all multis. Agar3s even made the effort to create separate WhatsApp and slack accounts... Adds, berten, guppie, Advantix etc. actually aren't real persons. They're all multis of Agar3s ![Bunny](http://web.onetel.net.uk/~karmulian/smilies/bunny.gif)
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Its great how they bother not to "play", but follow closely a preferred build plan and never miss a tick on times of incs, including recalls. Yet they are not on to cover own incs.
Theres a lot of ingal untagged def outside Asta too.
Yeah it is just dedication, just leaving mobile open, it is doable, it is possible, but assuming Ult is 30+ working class also. Its weird how u are hardly ever tied to thing called life.
I just mirrow it down to other alliances. I am not butthurt, I can mostly keep up myself, so I know its doable. I said I wouldn't be suprised if someday there would be closures on your end also. It is a very likely scenario.
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19 Nov 2017, 13:45
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#54
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Its great how they bother not to "play", but follow closely a preferred build plan and never miss a tick on times of incs, including recalls. Yet they are not on to cover own incs.
Theres a lot of ingal untagged def outside Asta too.
Yeah it is just dedication, just leaving mobile open, it is doable, it is possible, but assuming Ult is 30+ working class also. Its weird how u are hardly ever tied to thing called life.
I just mirrow it down to other alliances. I am not butthurt, I can mostly keep up myself, so I know its doable. I said I wouldn't be suprised if someday there would be closures on your end also. It is a very likely scenario.
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Ah, the classic “someone is better than me, they must be cheating”
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19 Nov 2017, 14:38
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#55
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Its great how they bother not to "play", but follow closely a preferred build plan and never miss a tick on times of incs, including recalls. Yet they are not on to cover own incs.
Theres a lot of ingal untagged def outside Asta too.
Yeah it is just dedication, just leaving mobile open, it is doable, it is possible, but assuming Ult is 30+ working class also. Its weird how u are hardly ever tied to thing called life.
I just mirrow it down to other alliances. I am not butthurt, I can mostly keep up myself, so I know its doable. I said I wouldn't be suprised if someday there would be closures on your end also. It is a very likely scenario.
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I can tell you would be a great detective! Claiming things without investigating. Is that not why your alliance had incoming for 600 ticks in the first place?
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19 Nov 2017, 14:54
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#56
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
i was an intag ultores multi of agar3s
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19 Nov 2017, 16:46
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#57
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,164
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
I said I wouldn't be suprised if someday there would be closures on your end also. It is a very likely scenario.
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Ye, very likely
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19 Nov 2017, 16:48
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#58
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
I can tell you would be a great detective! Claiming things without investigating. Is that not why your alliance had incoming for 600 ticks in the first place?
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Im not sure if you are banned from attaining any discussion regarding cheating in Ultores or not.
A few months, maybe a year back, we had a discussion in your main channel regarding Zwanstick and Brazil, where you claimed they wernt "cheaters" and would always be welcome in Ultores as they are THE ULTORES CORE.
Now you are taking offence when people call you out for being cheaters? I mean come on, realy?
Yes, some of the Ultores core(by your own definition) is cheaters, why even argue against it? Didnt you even let Clouds rejoin the other round?
Its not like anyone is saying that all players in Ultores are cheating, but a big chunk of the core is cheaters.
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19 Nov 2017, 17:04
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#59
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Its great how they bother not to "play", but follow closely a preferred build plan and never miss a tick on times of incs, including recalls. Yet they are not on to cover own incs.
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I haven't been in Ultores for a while, so I can't tell if there's cheating in there. However, what I do know is that they really do have a bunch of people who don't care about their own planet at all, who are just playing defense planets. That explains why they don't cover their own incs. Nothing illegal about that.
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19 Nov 2017, 17:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Im not sure if you are banned from attaining any discussion regarding cheating in Ultores or not.
A few months, maybe a year back, we had a discussion in your main channel regarding Zwanstick and Brazil, where you claimed they wernt "cheaters" and would always be welcome in Ultores as they are THE ULTORES CORE.
Now you are taking offence when people call you out for being cheaters? I mean come on, realy?
Yes, some of the Ultores core(by your own definition) is cheaters, why even argue against it? Didnt you even let Clouds rejoin the other round?
Its not like anyone is saying that all players in Ultores are cheating, but a big chunk of the core is cheaters.
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And where is zwan now pal?
Feel free to name the others and what they have done
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19 Nov 2017, 17:12
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#61
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Im not sure if you are banned from attaining any discussion regarding cheating in Ultores or not.
A few months, maybe a year back, we had a discussion in your main channel regarding Zwanstick and Brazil, where you claimed they wernt "cheaters" and would always be welcome in Ultores as they are THE ULTORES CORE.
Now you are taking offence when people call you out for being cheaters? I mean come on, realy?
Yes, some of the Ultores core(by your own definition) is cheaters, why even argue against it? Didnt you even let Clouds rejoin the other round?
Its not like anyone is saying that all players in Ultores are cheating, but a big chunk of the core is cheaters.
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I like how you change to conversation to benefit your propaganda. Yes there are people that used to cheat in alot of alliances. If someone is caught cheating within Ultores he will be removed and wont be allowed back in. Like what happened to zwanstic. Its like saying a guy who cheated on his gf is never allowed a new gf, but maybe thats why you are so sore about it in the first place.
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19 Nov 2017, 17:47
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by eksero
Ah, the classic “someone is better than me, they must be cheating” ![Salute](images/smilies/salute.gif)
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No one ia better than me obviously.
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19 Nov 2017, 18:10
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#63
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
If someone is caught cheating within Ultores he will be removed and wont be allowed back in. Like what happened to zwanstic.
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Even this is a lie.
The whole convo we had regarding the cheaters in Ultores that time was that Zwans had just been caught/closed. The next round he was let back in, and got closed again.
If you change it to:
"If someone is caught cheating twice within Ultores he will be removed and wont be allowed back in. Like what happened to zwanstic"
But that would also be a lie, as the "Spiderpig" stories dates back years, without knowing much about the details on that whole saga, since you blatantly denied it back then why would anyone listen to you claiming your all legit now?
Looking at the App memberlist of recent rounds im sure that half of it has played in Ultores the last 2-3 years, claiming that they are only cheating while they are not with you is funny.
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Originally Posted by Wouter
Its like saying a guy who cheated on his gf is never allowed a new gf, but maybe thats why you are so sore about it in the first place.
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Last round certain individuals from the "BF camp" asked to have a scan bot set up in Ultores(wich you said no to afaik), comming with such request would suggest that they are still cheaters and have changed nothing about their mentality.
Everyone knows what they represent, and what their values are, so why be so soar when people are saying that they wouldnt be surprised if Ultores planets would get closed again this round?
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19 Nov 2017, 18:34
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by eksero
And where is zwan now pal?
Feel free to name the others and what they have done
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Im not even sure who is playing or not this round.
Can you please give me the entire memberlist of Astratores/Ultores/whatever-other-tags
Im sure you have been a participant or a silent viewer of earlier discussions about who is cheating and who is not.
Atleast this one from a few years back could be a entertaining read: http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=200990
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19 Nov 2017, 19:53
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Im not even sure who is playing or not this round.
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You don't know who's playing, but you're sure some of them are cheating. OK.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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19 Nov 2017, 20:01
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#66
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Even this is a lie.
The whole convo we had regarding the cheaters in Ultores that time was that Zwans had just been caught/closed. The next round he was let back in, and got closed again.
If you change it to:
"If someone is caught cheating twice within Ultores he will be removed and wont be allowed back in. Like what happened to zwanstic"
But that would also be a lie, as the "Spiderpig" stories dates back years, without knowing much about the details on that whole saga, since you blatantly denied it back then why would anyone listen to you claiming your all legit now?
Looking at the App memberlist of recent rounds im sure that half of it has played in Ultores the last 2-3 years, claiming that they are only cheating while they are not with you is funny.
Last round certain individuals from the "BF camp" asked to have a scan bot set up in Ultores(wich you said no to afaik), comming with such request would suggest that they are still cheaters and have changed nothing about their mentality.
Everyone knows what they represent, and what their values are, so why be so soar when people are saying that they wouldnt be surprised if Ultores planets would get closed again this round?
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You confirmed twice in this same topic we don't allow cheating, yet in the same sentences you say we are. Spiderpig was nowhere near Ult and you don't know why zwanstic was closed, you can call it whatever you like but when he cas caught farming by Ult HC he was removed. Someone asking if Ultores has a scan bot is not the same as asking for one either.
Again I told you if someone gets caught cheating within Ult they are removed, if they cheat outside of Ult but not within it. How could it be changed by Ult? The fact remains that Ult does not and will not allow cheating within its ranks.
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19 Nov 2017, 20:38
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#67
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
Spiderpig was nowhere near Ult
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As i said i dont realy know exactly what the spiderpig story was, maybe ask your members?
They seemed to have an idea about what it was 2-3 years ago when they were on the opposite of the fence for a round.
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Originally Posted by Clouds
According to you. I guess we should take your word on this.
How's spiderpig by the way?
#ultorespropaganda
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wouter
Someone asking if Ultores has a scan bot is not the same as asking for one either.
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Your rite, they were complaining over you not having one set up. Not the same as asking, but crying about not having one at their disposal is close.
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Originally Posted by Wouter
You confirmed twice in this same topic we don't allow cheating, yet in the same sentences you say we are.
You don't know why zwanstic was closed, you can call it whatever you like but when he cas caught farming by Ult HC he was removed.
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Never said i knew the exact reason why he was closed, but i belive it was most likely because he was doing something illegale except using "offensive fleet/planet/gal/whatever names".
On the other hand you had no idea why he was cheated, but what you did say it didnt matter to you.
The denial in your runs deep, either you are a bad HC who doesnt know what goes on in his alliance. Or a cheating HC. Doesnt matter to me if you admit it here or not.
<B-Butch3r> Where is zwanstick?
<@[Ult]agar3s> he got closed as everyone knows, i told you i dont know the story and i still do not
<B-Butch3r> Will you accept him back when he returns?
<B-Butch3r> He dont even get yellowed carded for this
<@[Ult]agar3s> if he returns next round he can play ult for my part yes
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19 Nov 2017, 20:40
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#68
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
You don't know who's playing, but you're sure some of them are cheating. OK.
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Did i say that?
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19 Nov 2017, 20:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
As i said i dont realy know exactly what the spiderpig story was, maybe ask your members?
They seemed to have an idea about what it was 2-3 years ago when they were on the opposite of the fence for a round.
Your rite, they were complaining over you not having one set up. Not the same as asking, but crying about not having one at their disposal is close.
Never said i knew the exact reason why he was closed, but i belive it was most likely because he was doing something illegale except using "offensive fleet/planet/gal/whatever names".
On the other hand you had no idea why he was cheated, but what you did say it didnt matter to you.
The denial in your runs deep, either you are a bad HC who doesnt know what goes on in his alliance. Or a cheating HC. Doesnt matter to me if you admit it here or not.
<B-Butch3r> Where is zwanstick?
<@[Ult]agar3s> he got closed as everyone knows, i told you i dont know the story and i still do not
<B-Butch3r> Will you accept him back when he returns?
<B-Butch3r> He dont even get yellowed carded for this
<@[Ult]agar3s> if he returns next round he can play ult for my part yes
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No they werent complaining, our scanners are quite active and no one ever asked for a scanbot.
Yes I said I didnt know why he got closed. Do you or are you just going to make another assumption and claim its the truth?
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19 Nov 2017, 21:11
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Anarchy Shadow
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nafferton, England
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
I have no proof if ult are cheaters a few ex members of ult have told me they seen a few very dodgy occasions where defence appeared from some planets but when checked if player was on a messaging program to confirm send etc etc not been on for hours little things but I've no proof but I doubt ult would be this strong without the odd account sharing going on and yes ult had account sharers for rounds and rounds yes recently most have been removed but what about the rounds they was cheating and ult won makes you think. Way I see it aslong as ult hc don't know about it they don't care if there members cheat.
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19 Nov 2017, 21:46
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
No they werent complaining, our scanners are quite active and no one ever asked for a scanbot.
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Then you wernt in the room, or they were complaining to some other HC or member.
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Originally Posted by Wouter
Yes I said I didnt know why he got closed. Do you or are you just going to make another assumption and claim its the truth?
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If i knew why he got closed, would i be asking you? I know it was his planet getting closed, alongside another planet.
The next round the same thing happened, and the viewable "evidence" would point in a direction that it had something to do with the new "quest system". How ever, in normal cases if he was cov-op farming under normal circumstances usualy only the farm would get closed.
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19 Nov 2017, 21:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Demort
I have no proof if ult are cheaters a few ex members of ult have told me they seen a few very dodgy occasions where defence appeared from some planets but when checked if player was on a messaging program to confirm send etc etc not been on for hours little things but I've no proof but I doubt ult would be this strong without the odd account sharing going on and yes ult had account sharers for rounds and rounds yes recently most have been removed but what about the rounds they was cheating and ult won makes you think. Way I see it aslong as ult hc don't know about it they don't care if there members cheat.
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You are lying publicly now, you really dont seem to learn do you. You get your alliance hit for 600 ticks for trying to spread lies. Yet here you are trying to do it again. You paste logs around all the time, feel free to share those logs to the public. We both know you dont have them though. You are simply trying to get attention by claiming you do.
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19 Nov 2017, 21:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Then you wernt in the room, or they were complaining to some other HC or member.
If i knew why he got closed, would i be asking you? I know it was his planet getting closed, alongside another planet.
The next round the same thing happened, and the viewable "evidence" would point in a direction that it had something to do with the new "quest system". How ever, in normal cases if he was cov-op farming under normal circumstances usualy only the farm would get closed.
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I did see the convo, the only question asked was. "Do we need a scanbot."
The reply was no, we don't allow it.
Zwanstic got kicked before being closed. For farming a planet he himself signed up.
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19 Nov 2017, 22:04
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Anarchy Shadow
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nafferton, England
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
You are lying publicly now, you really dont seem to learn do you. You get your alliance hit for 600 ticks for trying to spread lies. Yet here you are trying to do it again. You paste logs around all the time, feel free to share those logs to the public. We both know you dont have them though. You are simply trying to get attention by claiming you do.
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Why would I want attention to be hit again not that I mind it's obvious you threatening me about the 600 ticks amusing and it was actually discussed over food with some pa players I met in person so logs would be hard unless I recorded the entire meetup which I didn't I have a log of something though which I'm fine showing to your hc but won't name and shame the player on forums
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19 Nov 2017, 22:14
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Registered User
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Demort
Why would I want attention to be hit again not that I mind it's obvious you threatening me about the 600 ticks amusing and it was actually discussed over food with some pa players I met in person so logs would be hard unless I recorded the entire meetup which I didn't I have a log of something though which I'm fine showing to your hc but won't name and shame the player on forums
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I call bullshit.
PS: I am an HC in Ult.
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19 Nov 2017, 22:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
You are lying publicly now, you really dont seem to learn do you. You get your alliance hit for 600 ticks for trying to spread lies. Yet here you are trying to do it again. You paste logs around all the time, feel free to share those logs to the public. We both know you dont have them though. You are simply trying to get attention by claiming you do.
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Any info on such lies?
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19 Nov 2017, 22:49
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Demort
Why would I want attention to be hit again not that I mind it's obvious you threatening me about the 600 ticks amusing and it was actually discussed over food with some pa players I met in person so logs would be hard unless I recorded the entire meetup which I didn't I have a log of something though which I'm fine showing to your hc but won't name and shame the player on forums
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All this shady business apparently going on, yet there's never any proof...
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19 Nov 2017, 22:53
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by eksero
All this shady business apparently going on, yet there's never any proof... ![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Thats how organized crime does their businesses. Over lunch with demort in an unknow location.
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19 Nov 2017, 23:03
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by eksero
All this shady business apparently going on, yet there's never any proof... ![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
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There any MHs either? This is the only game I played who closes a farm and not the farmer. 😂😂
Your tag is very suspicious mirrowing down to level of dedication from casual others.
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19 Nov 2017, 23:16
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Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Your tag is very suspicious mirrowing down to level of dedication from casual others.
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Repeating this just makes you sound jealous of the fact that you don't have any members who are happy to play casually (def planets), sacrificing their own planet for the collective good...🙄
Or maybe I'm just an Agar3s multi 😂
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19 Nov 2017, 23:25
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Anarchy Shadow
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
Oh I don't think ult has multies I know people like saudauker how ever ya spell his name plays pure defence most rounds and will actively login send recall and not care about his own planet I know you have a few others I generally have respect for the hc in ult as they nice chaps and I'd love to have a beer with them but I do think some ult share login details it happens
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19 Nov 2017, 23:27
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The Scareh Clown
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Demort
Why would I want attention to be hit again not that I mind it's obvious you threatening me about the 600 ticks amusing and it was actually discussed over food with some pa players I met in person so logs would be hard unless I recorded the entire meetup which I didn't I have a log of something though which I'm fine showing to your hc but won't name and shame the player on forums
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Im new to Ult this round- if anyone wants to know why and how ult are so strong, I can vouch for the fact that every single member has their phone on loud.
But while cheating is unfortunatley part of the game, it is natural when you have high performance that some competitors label it as cheating or proactively try and find a way to explain it.
But in Ult there is no scanbot or account sharing. There is no cheating. I know a lot of people who do cheat in the game, and tbh it hasnt got them anywhere recently. I cant speak for previous rounds cos I havent been here.
What food did you eat, anyway?
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19 Nov 2017, 23:41
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: England
Posts: 145
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Demort
Oh I don't think ult has multies I know people like saudauker how ever ya spell his name plays pure defence most rounds and will actively login send recall and not care about his own planet I know you have a few others I generally have respect for the hc in ult as they nice chaps and I'd love to have a beer with them but I do think some ult share login details it happens
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Sorry mate, i like ya, but if you truly had respect for ult HC, surely you wouldn't be throwing cheating allegations at the ally without having actual proof?
I understand that people might think it odd that we have so many active defenders who don't actually care for their own planet, but that's just the way ult is, we have a large number of loyal players who are always willing to put the effort into the alliance as a whole rather than just themselves.
It also helps that we have Xerxes and Agar3s who harass their core members to get them to play more rounds even when they want to quit!! (I've been quitting pa for years now) And because we like them and appreciate everything they've done for us in countless rounds, we come back to play, either as a standard member, or a def planet.
I can guarantee to people though, that if there were cheaters in ult, the HC team definitely do not know about it, else they would be booted, one of the many reasons i love this ally.
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20 Nov 2017, 02:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Colt
Repeating this just makes you sound jealous of the fact that you don't have any members who are happy to play casually (def planets), sacrificing their own planet for the collective good...
Or maybe I'm just an Agar3s multi
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Right. I have never said anything about multies.
Ps. my entire alliance is based on unselfish teamplayers, who has carried bunch of newbies and recruits for most of their existence.
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20 Nov 2017, 08:23
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Did i say that?
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Its not like anyone is saying that all players in Ultores are cheating, but a big chunk of the core is cheaters.
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Im not even sure who is playing or not this round.
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20 Nov 2017, 10:59
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Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
Posts: 1,192
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Right. I have never said anything about multies.
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Originally Posted by Ave
Its great how they bother not to "play", but follow closely a preferred build plan and never miss a tick on times of incs, including recalls. Yet they are not on to cover own incs.
Theres a lot of ingal untagged def outside Asta too.
Yeah it is just dedication, just leaving mobile open, it is doable, it is possible, but assuming Ult is 30+ working class also. Its weird how u are hardly ever tied to thing called life.
I just mirrow it down to other alliances. I am not butthurt, I can mostly keep up myself, so I know its doable. I said I wouldn't be suprised if someday there would be closures on your end also. It is a very likely scenario.
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Sounds like that's exactly what you were insinuating to me?
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20 Nov 2017, 11:12
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,740
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
Yeah they have a history of cheating, wether they are cheating now or even in ultores would be hard for me to know. The probability of Ultores having someone who has done something against the rules again this round is VERY high though. Higher than most other tags.
1. They are the "top tag". Some players will do anything to win(cheating), but its no point doing that in a tag that cant protect you. Thats why traditionaly most cheaters join top tags.
2. They have more(Ast) players than other tags.
3. They have/had a lot of well know cheaters residing in there last round, and they got planets closed the previous rounds.
"Ult core" does not mean they are ult now or ever be ult again. Chunks of what agar3s called "Ult core" moved over to Apprime, the tag that just had half their planets closed.
Ave is an idiot, but saying he wouldnt be surprised to see Ult having planets closed again this round isnt realy without reasons, not the ones he is pointing at though.
You realy need to read the thread from top to bottom, instead of trying to be a smartass.
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20 Nov 2017, 11:13
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Colt
Sounds like that's exactly what you were insinuating to me?
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VNC/Account sharing?
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20 Nov 2017, 11:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Yeah they have a history of cheating, wether they are cheating now or even in ultores would be hard for me to know. The probability of Ultores having someone who has done something against the rules again this round is VERY high though. Higher than most other tags.
1. They are the "top tag". Some players will do anything to win(cheating), but its no point doing that in a tag that cant protect you. Thats why traditionaly most cheaters join top tags.
2. They have more(Ast) players than other tags.
3. They have/had a lot of well know cheaters residing in there last round, and they got planets closed the previous rounds.
"Ult core" does not mean they are ult now or ever be ult again. Chunks of what agar3s called "Ult core" moved over to Apprime, the tag that just had half their planets closed.
Ave is an idiot, but saying he wouldnt be surprised to see Ult having planets closed again this round isnt realy without reasons, not the ones he is pointing at though.
You realy need to read the thread from top to bottom, instead of trying to be a smartass.
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Yes there will be people that cheated in every alliance.
Which players in apprime did I call Ult core? Which of them ever got closed?
As far I know the only planet ever to get closed within Ultores tag is Zwanstic, correct me if I am wrong ofcourse.
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20 Nov 2017, 11:41
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Wouter
Yes there will be people that cheated in every alliance.
Which players in apprime did I call Ult core? Which of them ever got closed?
As far I know the only planet ever to get closed within Ultores tag is Zwanstic, correct me if I am wrong ofcourse.
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Yes, Zwansdick is one of them.
After Brazil got their planets closed for trying to XP farm Rx you still let them into Ultores Rx+1, stating that they were Ult core and would always be welcome even though they had just been closed the round before. Aint they in Apprime this round? Atleast they were last round.
Im pretty sure we had a PM convo a few tears ago where some JGPs were pasted, wich was concerning Clouds bot army escorting him everywhere, where you said something like "Yeah, we know, they attacked us too, Clouds always cheat".
"They only cheat when they are not with us" is very hard to belive, maybe they usualy get closed/caught while they are in another tag though.
I cant correct you, as im not set as HC ingame in Ultores and wont get the mails from admins when planets are closed.
Ive never gotten such a mail concerning someone i didnt know was a bot/multi or who i didnt report for being a bot/multi in any of the alliances ive HCed, that dosnt mean that people wernt cheating.
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20 Nov 2017, 11:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Yes, Zwansdick is one of them.
After Brazil got their planets closed for trying to XP farm Rx you still let them into Ultores Rx+1, stating that they were Ult core and would always be welcome even though they had just been closed the round before. Aint they in Apprime this round? Atleast they were last round.
Im pretty sure we had a PM convo a few tears ago where some JGPs were pasted, wich was concerning Clouds bot army escorting him everywhere, where you said something like "Yeah, we know, they attacked us too, Clouds always cheat".
"They only cheat when they are not with us" is very hard to belive, maybe they usualy get closed/caught while they are in another tag though.
I cant correct you, as im not set as HC ingame in Ultores and wont get the mails from admins when planets are closed.
Ive never gotten such a mail concerning someone i didnt know was a bot/multi or who i didnt report for being a bot/multi in any of the alliances ive HCed, that dosnt mean that people wernt cheating.
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You can not name a second person that got closed within Ultores.
You think all the brazilians are the same. But yes most of those who you will name as the ring leaders within the brazilians have been kicked from Ultores. I do not need to announce things though.
I never said Clouds always cheats, I said every time BF hits Ultores. Those bots appear.
I dont know about you but I think you are trying too hard to make your believes a reality and yes I still believe in giving people another chance. Like I always said and claimed is that I do not allow cheating within Ultores. Besides Zwanstic you cant even name a second person that got closed within Ultores.
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20 Nov 2017, 12:03
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#92
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,143
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
I for one won't be surprised if there will be closures in tags such as Carisan
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20 Nov 2017, 13:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by eksero
I for one won't be surprised if there will be closures in tags such as Carisan
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Exactly... I cannot believe that no-one mentioned that before
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20 Nov 2017, 13:46
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#94
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 936
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by eksero
I for one won't be surprised if there will be closures in tags such as Carisan
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Yeah we had 2 recruits trying to spy on us last round. Both were multi accounts I believe.
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20 Nov 2017, 14:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 374
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Ave
Yeah we had 2 recruits trying to spy on us last round. Both were multi accounts I believe.
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Oh yes, intel of your best friend Zwanstic. He would know all about multis!
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20 Nov 2017, 15:54
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#96
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,038
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
I believe Colteh got closed while in ultores in our 2nd or 3rd round
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20 Nov 2017, 15:57
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#97
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by Blue_Esper
I believe Colteh got closed while in ultores in our 2nd or 3rd round
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20 Nov 2017, 16:34
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,740
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
What tag was "Bolt" or "Colt"? Not sure who was what, one of them was closed or was cheating no?
When Dav the cheater, CarDi & crew was bug abusing the gal fund, what tags where they in? They lost out on top gal cus of the closures iirc.
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20 Nov 2017, 16:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
What tag was "Bolt" or "Colt"? Not sure who was what, one of them was closed or was cheating no?
When Dav the cheater, CarDi & crew was bug abusing the gal fund, what tags where they in? They lost out on top gal cus of the closures iirc.
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f*ck your retardness, as dumb as it gets. Cardi was never in that galaxy,
Even tho you like to think of him as cheater. You just like throwing names around. A person never playing pa, or being in touch with anyone in the community has more insight than you.
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20 Nov 2017, 16:59
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
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Re: Cheaters always seem to prosper
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
f*ck your retardness, as dumb as it gets. Cardi was never in that galaxy,
Even tho you like to think of him as cheater. You just like throwing names around. A person never playing pa, or being in touch with anyone in the community has more insight than you.
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Please update me then.
What i remember:
1. CarDi finds a bug with donating with the gal fund each xx:30
2. Dav the cheater gets information how to use the bug.
3. Cardi and Dav the cheater is closed for bug abusing.
4. Someone loses out on top gal cus either Dav or CarDi was in their gal and got deleted.
Or am i totaly off here? Wernt you even in the gal losing out on #1?
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