anyone else miss triad/block wars

[Mek]

since 1up declared "no more blocks" they have just gon and blocked behind our backs and manipulated us all.. how about we all just lay our cards on the table and cut the cloak and dagger crap.. triad wars are cool anyway

Mek

[Legator]

Originally Posted by Mek

since 1up declared "no more blocks" they have just gon and blocked behind our backs and manipulated us all.. how about we all just lay our cards on the table and cut the cloak and dagger crap.. triad wars are cool anyway

Mek

who blocked behind "your" backs ?

[Hicks]

Does anyone miss the days when people who posted threads like this were laughed off AD and their HC banned them from posting again ?

[Mek]

Originally Posted by Legator

who blocked behind "your" backs ?

Originally Posted by Mek

since 1up declared "no more blocks" they have just gon and blocked behind our backs and manipulated us all.. how about we all just lay our cards on the table and cut the cloak and dagger crap.. triad wars are cool anyway

Mek

can u not read my post or sumthing?

[Mek]

all im basically saying is 1up, if your gonna block go for it, just cut the facade of "we dont block cuz we're 1up...here to save the pa universe from evuhl blocks!!1`111oneone!!!!11"

[Legator]

Originally Posted by Mek

all im basically saying is 1up, if your gonna block go for it, just cut the facade of "we dont block cuz we're 1up...here to save the pa universe from evuhl blocks!!1`111oneone!!!!11"

Originally Posted by Hicks

Does anyone miss the days when people who posted threads like this were laughed off AD and their HC banned them from posting again ?

your so right hicks

[Mek]

both of u cut the arrogance plz

[Mek]

btw...thanx for the neg rep

[pig]

Originally Posted by Hicks

Does anyone miss the days when people who posted threads like this were laughed off AD and their HC banned them from posting again ?

im laughing, just waitng for his hc to ban him.

and to answer your question mek, no.

[lokken]

Blocking isn't the enemy, uneducated greedy HC's are.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by pig

im laughing, just waitng for his hc to ban him.

and to answer your question mek, no.

this has nothing to do with HC though...this is my own personall opinions so iam not expecting to be banned from anything ty

[lokken]

This thread will now be run along these lines:

Are blocks bad?.
Did 1up partake in blocking activity, and if so do they have any obligation to be honest to us and was it bad for the game?

If there are no constructive posts on this line of argument, i shall consider it blind flaming of 1up for no real reason, or indeed a flame/troll thread as appropriate and just close it. This is the only way I believe for Mek to form a reasonable line of argument. If Mek wishes to persist in futility, I will take action.

[Mek]

kk..

i just feel that 1up were using the "kingmakers" thing as a way of disguising the blocking.. if you gonna block just come out and admit your doing it instead of denying it..

blocks are good imho if the blocks are reasonably well matched..cuz at this point in time we have had no real alliance wars.. its mainly been LCH vs 1up and tbh its getting just a little bit boring.. i want more alliances involved and more carnage etc

[Rumad]

who cares who does what.

Blocks are excellent startegic vehicles. HC's aren't the enemy for making blocks the trouble is that people in there fear of being dumped or duped rely on overly strong relationships which stymy the game.

Bring back blocks have the balls to not have super ally ties and start playing the game.

Trouble is imo that too many lay hc are manipulated by too many politicians

[Legator]

Originally Posted by Mek

kk..

i just feel that 1up were using the "kingmakers" thing as a way of disguising the blocking.. if you gonna block just come out and admit your doing it instead of denying it..

blocks are good imho if the blocks are reasonably well matched..cuz at this point in time we have had no real alliance wars.. its mainly been LCH vs 1up and tbh its getting just a little bit boring.. i want more alliances involved and more carnage etc

if you want a thread about blocks dont include the bullshit you wrote about 1up - you could have posted this into the 213123 other threads about it.


if its the question about blocks i would say they are not needed at the moment because its better for the small playerbase if alliances fight on their own.

[Mek]

i didnt write bullshit about 1up i wrote my opinion about what happened.....just the same as you have your opinion...ty

why do u feel its better for the smaller playerbase tho?? surely a repeat of the same wars and the same format round after round is just gonna be stagnating/boring?!?

[Jackal2112]

hi there. block war's are far from cool and have been stagnating rounds for ages. how you can get it into your small pea sized brain that they are cool is beyond me and im sure beyond a lot of sane people's minds.

[SimbaX]

well imo, alliances going solo makes for more dynamic playing and strategy, therefore there isnt the same format each round, therefore it does not become boring/stagnated.
blocks imo are what makes the game format the same each time.

[Alessio]

BLOCKS PWN wooohooo..!!!!!!111oneoneone

and I mean it

[Hicks]

Originally Posted by Mek

both of u cut the arrogance plz

Cut the stupidity and I'll give it a try.

Originally Posted by Mek

blocks are good imho if the blocks are reasonably well matched..cuz at this point in time we have had no real alliance wars.. its mainly been LCH vs 1up and tbh its getting just a little bit boring.. i want more alliances involved and more carnage etc

The whole point of blocking isn't to build two well matched blocks it's to build a block capable of stream rolling the other side into the floor and spending the round strip roiding LDK and Bull.

Blocks are built out of fear of losing, one side gets an ally to make sure that they win so the other side does the same, they build from there, they aren't built for fun. The block wars weren't fun because of the blocks, they were fun because they involved alliances, which pretty much hated one another and were going to fight one another until they disbanded, it was a pretty epic struggle and it made Planetarion exciting.

The problem with Planetarion at the moment isn't the lack of blocks, it's the lack of spine in almost every alliance to go for the number one spot, how many alliances could have won last round if they'd followed the logical course ? Mistu could have gone top if they'd hit LCH instead of attacking 1up, LCH could have retained the lead if they'd checked 1up and stopped hitting ND, the fact everyone wants to have blocks back is just a symptom of how scared people are to go top alone just in case anyone smashes them back down.

[lokken]

As a point of reference I point everyone to this excellent post by JonnyBGood.

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showpo...2&postcount=35

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=181783 <- this ishe thread reference, the topic has already been discussed although largely before the completion of round 12.

Please do not resurrect the other thread, as i will lock it - hopefully a point of reference will point us to some more valued discussion here, if it is in particular reference to 1up.

[Seth Mace]

Originally Posted by lokken

As a point of reference I point everyone to this excellent post by JonnyBGood.

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showpo...2&postcount=35

This subject imo also relates to certain parties wanting the alliance cap lowered because they think it will help create more alliances that will make PA the epic struggle it once was.

Which is totally false imo, 1 problem is ofc lack of players but more importantly a lack of quality Command staff who are active, dedicated and aware of what HCing involves. Like a brain drain, capping alliances will only make the "dregs" filter into poorly run alliances (run by inactive or lacking HC) and eventually kill off their desire to play the game. Ofc this is only what i think is the flipside to some peoples solution to PAs big problem.

Relating this to block wars, well there has never been a round where the winning alliance hasnt achieved their victory alone. Including r11 (the top100 planet naps was as good as an alliance nap & dont forget ND giving 1up a planet nap even tho 1up didnt nap them!) and especially r12 which ended up being a Block war, although 1ups block with ND et al managed to fool each other into forming their block as a counter to something that didnt exist.

For R13, well there is a block already formed, its an obvious block i might add and one that any PA player with half a brain could predict.

It doesnt involve HR btw.

Who could it be? Hmmm?

[Hicks]

1up can't have beaten us solo, THEY MUST HAVE NAPPED/CHEATED/HACKED.

[Seth Mace]

Originally Posted by Hicks

1up can't have beaten us solo, THEY MUST HAVE NAPPED/CHEATED/HACKED.

1up would have beaten us solo and based on history would have beaten LCH in r12, thats why its even more amazing they bluffed so many other alliances into helping their cause.

1up could have won alone, YET THEY STILL MANAGED TO BLUFF/ PROPAGANDA/ FOOL OTHERS

^^ my attempt

[DrunkenViking]

blocks rule...

[Chika]

Originally Posted by Seth Mace

1up would have beaten us solo and based on history would have beaten LCH in r12, thats why its even more amazing they bluffed so many other alliances into helping their cause.

1up could have won alone, YET THEY STILL MANAGED TO BLUFF/ PROPAGANDA/ FOOL OTHERS

^^ my attempt

I think one can safely say that anyone posting like this feels OWNED.
In other news, blocks are not bad, UBERblocks are bad. Like, 1UP/LCH/ToT against HR/ND/VsN would be a sucky fight, and bad blocking. I do think Mek is an idiot, but one point I agree with, if you are going to block, make it public, all this hiding crap, and hidden cooperation is gay I think.

[Rumad]

From what I can se here there is a polarisation of views around why blocks should be there and why bocks shoudn't be there.

The trouble is everyone uses past rounds as an excuse for "no blocks" which is partly due to the groundswell of anti blocking which was made 2.5 rounds ago. Now people use it as an excuse. It is true that blocks are used to avoid losing but in comparison to the current environment is that so bad?

It seems that 1up players are already accusing the universe of not having the backbone today to compete, but with a lack of experienced staff and without the fundamental skills gained in earlier rounds this is not so hard to understand why.

My 2 cents is that if there was every a time for blocking to re-enter the game that is now. The only thing is that alliances need to allow fr mre dynamics and not return to the "old" ways where blocks were so big and strong the game ended within a month.

BTW lokken congrats on your mods posiion - I never realised you were the nazi

[furssie]

Originally Posted by Mek

since 1up declared "no more blocks"....
Mek

But ....

but....

but.... they have ND/Wolfpack/SiN..etc... numerous planetary naps.

[Bashar]

I don't recall 1up ever saying "We won't block". i do remember 1up saying "We wish to see an end to blocking and won't block unless others block up and need bringing down".

Just a minor point.

[Legator]

Originally Posted by Bashar

I don't recall 1up ever saying "We won't block". i do remember 1up saying "We wish to see an end to blocking and won't block unless others block up and need bringing down".

Just a minor point.

as if any of the deaf, "ignoring by principle" people will ever get that.

some are just to bittered

[Treveler]

Originally Posted by Seth Mace

1up would have beaten us solo and based on history would have beaten LCH in r12, thats why its even more amazing they bluffed so many other alliances into helping their cause.

1up could have won alone, YET THEY STILL MANAGED TO BLUFF/ PROPAGANDA/ FOOL OTHERS

^^ my attempt

The bitterness losers like you show is one of the main reason I enjoy playing this game. Whining losers allways put a smile om my face!

[Mek]

Originally Posted by Treveler

The bitterness losers like you show is one of the main reason I enjoy playing this game. Whining losers allways put a smile om my face!

your arrogance will one day be your downfall

[Mek]

btw...keep the neg rep coming...its 4 neg to 3 positive for this thread..(on a side note can u sign your neg rep plz 1up cuz its nice to see who hates me )

btw treveler...sethy isnt being bitter he is stating a clear point...you COULD have beaten us hands down but you chose to ally/block/nap other alliances to give u the edge that you didnt need.. 1up did not need support to do the job...

[Treveler]

Originally Posted by Mek

btw...keep the neg rep coming...its 4 neg to 3 positive for this thread..(on a side note can u sign your neg rep plz 1up cuz its nice to see who hates me )

btw treveler...sethy isnt being bitter he is stating a clear point...you COULD have beaten us hands down but you chose to ally/block/nap other alliances to give u the edge that you didnt need.. 1up did not need support to do the job...

Ignorance is a blizz isnt it?

As long as you keep making excuses and false accusations about 1up game strategy, instead of improving yourself, I`ll be back here after next round laughing at losers like you and sethy once again.

Some ppl never learn it seems.

[lokken]

like all bad relationships, some threads are always in need of closure.